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Old 05-23-2012, 09:58 AM   #1
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Default The WeAreism and YouAreism
I have observed in IRL but also in this forum a widespread ideology, which I'll call "WeAreism" and "YouAreism"... that consist:

-In case of WeAreism, in award yourself a merit, actions or economic status that does not belong to you, as if you had participated in them, just because they were performed by someone from your country or ethnic group, in present or in past.

Examples:

-We are rich
-We fed you
-We discovered the electricity
-We go to the moon
-We were wandering in the desert for 40 years

Who often make such statements is not rich, has fed no one, has discovered nothing, nor has any been wandering aany desert. Simply entering a collective category can admire himself to belong to something bigger.

-In case of YouAreism, to accuse another of a certain action, behavior or economic status, just because it has been performed by someone or some of their country or ethnic group.

Examples:

-You are poor
-You are lazy
-You are ungrateful
-You are loud
-You are usurer
-You invaded us

In this case, is used to try to make you feel inferior, or justify something by "your" actions.

Most of totalitarianism use it: feminism (women could not vote), communism (the communists we controlled 1/3 of the world), Nazism (whites are superior) ... and most of times these identifications are vague and misleading.

And important...Everyone who discuss Weareist propaganda will be accused of hating the group with which Weareist identify themselves: who does not believe the Zionists nonsense is an anti-Semite, who does not believe the Nazi nonsense a Jewish agent, who does not believe the communists nonsense is a capitalist, who does not believe the feminist nonsense a misogynist, who does not believe the multiculturalist nonsense a racist.
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:27 AM   #2
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I agree with you.

BUT, in a previous post I wrote "WE will feed you" becuase I've worked in the food production industry since I'm 10 years old, and many things I have harvested, selected, slaughtered, supervised, sold, etc. have ended up in supermarkets in Europe. So I think I have the right to say We feed you
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:09 AM   #3
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I guess I am a WeAreist to an extent. I don't try to take credit for anyone else achievements but I am proud of the things 'my people' have accomplished. I do not see anything wrong with a little ethnic pride. I know there are people here who like to talk down people for that but it doesn't bother me. They are entitled to their opinion just as everyone else is. I guess the group is more important to me than the individual.
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:51 AM   #4
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Topically appropriate meme:



Anyway I respect the accomplishments of my ancestors and my culture, but I don't claim credit for them. Every so often someone will disrespect them and I'm compelled to argue their case, but that is different from claiming credit.
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Old 05-23-2012, 05:15 PM   #5
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I don't believe in taking credit for something which my people achieved unless, I had something to do with it. I'm a ''YouAreist'' sometimes, though... When I need to insult someone.
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Old 05-23-2012, 05:17 PM   #6
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This reminds me of Doug Stanhope.....
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Old 05-23-2012, 08:04 PM   #7
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I guess I am a WeAreist to an extent. I don't try to take credit for anyone else achievements but I am proud of the things 'my people' have accomplished. I do not see anything wrong with a little ethnic pride. I know there are people here who like to talk down people for that but it doesn't bother me. They are entitled to their opinion just as everyone else is. I guess the group is more important to me than the individual.
No, not exactly. Weareist is who appropriates the merits of others, not who feel a little proud of them. Weareist would be the student who appropriates the merits of his teacher, not the student who is proud to have him as a teacher.
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:01 PM   #8
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-In case of WeAreism, in award yourself a merit, actions or economic status that does not belong to you, as if you had participated in them, just because they were performed by someone from your country or ethnic group, in present or in past.

Examples:

-We are rich
-We fed you
-We discovered the electricity
-We go to the moon
-We were wandering in the desert for 40 years
This is also known as "Sociopathy", or the phenomenon of people feeling part of some group whether it be based on physical attributes, economic class, ethnicity, race, religion, culture, (politickal) ideology, etc.


-In case of YouAreism, to accuse another of a certain action, behavior or economic status, just because it has been performed by someone or some of their country or ethnic group. This is a type of socialism, focusing on groups.

Examples:

-You are poor
-You are lazy
-You are ungrateful
-You are loud
-You are usurer
-You invaded us
This is also known as "Psychopathy", or the phenomenon of feeling distinct, different, separated, or alien from "groups" or "WeAreism". This is a type of Individualism, focusing on lone persons.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:55 AM   #9
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Most of totalitarianism use it: feminism (women could not vote), communism (the communists we controlled 1/3 of the world), Nazism (whites are superior) ... and most of times these identifications are vague and misleading.

And important...Everyone who discuss Weareist propaganda will be accused of hating the group with which Weareist identify themselves: who does not believe the Zionists nonsense is an anti-Semite, who does not believe the Nazi nonsense a Jewish agent, who does not believe the communists nonsense is a capitalist, who does not believe the feminist nonsense a misogynist, who does not believe the multiculturalist nonsense a racist.
You've just described a good portion of the type of posters who join this forum.

Quite common for them to make use of zero-sum-like arguments, or more precisely, false dichotomy/false dilemmas (when convenient of course), identity politics (team whitey vs team blacky), ethno/racial or nationalilty based Fascism, etc.
Sometimes they run in small cliques, depending on how many are not banned yet.
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