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**golfmenorca** · 07-02-2007, 04:22 AM

Tiki Barber

17th in all-time rushing yards
10th in total yards from scrimmage
6- 1,000 yard rushing seasons (5 in a row)
3- 2,000 yard total offense seasons
528 carrer receptions - 8th all time for running backs
5 games of 200+ yards rushing (2nd behind O.J. Simpson)
Pro Bowl: 2005, 2006, 2007
2 time league leader - Yards from scrimmage

**videolkif** · 07-02-2007, 04:23 AM

I vote yes. The only thing that will potentially keep him out is his career 67 touchdowns, which is not all that impressive.

**IntinyBut** · 07-02-2007, 04:29 AM

I predict he'll be back in a year or two to add to those stats.

**StanWatts** · 07-02-2007, 04:30 AM

I predict he'll be back in a year or two to add to those stats.

I don't know Zero, Tiki already has a nice career lined up for himself, and unlike most of these ex-jocks, he's can speak, and has a brain in his head.

**sisimelanyk** · 07-02-2007, 04:30 AM

I think he belongs in the Hall, but I don't know if his first three seasons will be held against him or not.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/BarbTi00.htm

Only 930 yards and 3 TDs during that time frame. And he was behind guys like Gary Brown, Tyrone Wheatley, and Charles Way.

**Sironimoll** · 07-02-2007, 04:32 AM

I think he belongs in the Hall, but I don't know if his first three seasons will be held against him or not.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/BarbTi00.htm

Only 930 yards and 3 TDs during that time frame. And he was behind guys like Gary Brown, Tyrone Wheatley, and Charles Way.

He also had 1200+ yards receiving in that timeframe.

**Darlmtgq** · 07-02-2007, 04:35 AM

5 good years does not a Hall of Fame career make.

**spamkillerf** · 07-02-2007, 04:38 AM

I don't know Zero, Tiki already has a nice career lined up for himself, and unlike most of these ex-jocks, he's can speak, and has a brain in his head.

But, I'd bet that he'll get up into the broadcast booth and, eventually, get that itch that so many players get to go back out there and play. I wouldn't bet against it happening.

**6ZCo3xuK** · 07-02-2007, 04:42 AM

5 good years does not a Hall of Fame career make.

Unless your John Riggens, Marcus Allen, or Earl Cambell

**TerriLS** · 07-02-2007, 04:44 AM

5 good years does not a Hall of Fame career make.

I agree with this logic or Terrell Davis would be a Hall of Famer as well.

The Hall should be both for greatness AND longevity.

I would say a minimum of 10 years.

**GennadiyRom** · 07-02-2007, 04:51 AM

The fact that he's more of a condescending douchebag than John Buck won't help his borderline stats.

**cut sifted ephedra sinica** · 07-02-2007, 05:07 AM

17th in all-time rushing yards
10th in total yards from scrimmage

Those two stats are hard to argue against no matter how many years of 'Hall of Fame' ball he played, though...

**SarSerceSaice** · 07-02-2007, 05:16 AM

Those two stats are hard to argue against no matter how many years of 'Hall of Fame' ball he played, though...

I think he's a borderliner.

You must be careful about comparing raw stats of today compared to yesteryear.

Offenses are a lot more complex then back then, and they play more games as well.

If Tiki played at this level for another 2-3 years, I think there would be no question.

**BuyCheapest** · 07-02-2007, 05:27 AM

Only in his last 3 years did he overcome his fumble-itis.

**marcusdexz** · 08-01-2007, 10:43 AM

I think he's a borderliner.

You must be careful about comparing raw stats of today compared to yesteryear.

Offenses are a lot more complex then back then, and they play more games as well.

If Tiki played at this level for another 2-3 years, I think there would be no question.

Very good point...

It's going to be very hard to assess whether he will be Hall of Fame worthy...

Personally, I am not one who feels that Terrell Davis is Hall of Fame worthy simply because of the longevity of his career, but I am pretty split in this particular case...

**ViktorialHDY** · 08-01-2007, 12:48 PM

No titles.

His yardage is good, but as was pointed out, he lacks the scoring #'s. Add to that a lack of titles, and if the question is, "Is he a Hall-Of-Famer?" then I say no.

If the question is, "Will he make it to the Hall-Of-Fame?" then I say yes, he will. He's a real media darling in NY and has played the press well. He'll get the votes.

**PetraCromlich** · 08-01-2007, 09:31 PM

His yardage is good, but as was pointed out, he lacks the scoring #'s. Add to that a lack of titles, and if the question is, "Is he a Hall-Of-Famer?" then I say no.

If the question is, "Will he make it to the Hall-Of-Fame?" then I say yes, he will. He's a real media darling in NY and has played the press well. He'll get the votes.

I agree. If he gets in, I'll be fine with it. If he doesn't, I'll be fine with it. Personally, I don't think he should get in, just not yet at least.

**ananciguinter** · 10-01-2007, 06:01 PM

It will be tough considering the amount of years he played. I think he might get in because of the person who he is and was an overall good sports figure.

**Unhappu** · 10-01-2007, 07:56 PM

No titles.
His yardage is good, but as was pointed out, he lacks the scoring #'s. Add to that a lack of titles, and if the question is, "Is he a Hall-Of-Famer?" then I say no.

So, based upon that logic, you would keep Dan Marino out of the Hall? And Walter Payton?

**angeldimmon** · 10-01-2007, 08:10 PM

So, based upon that logic, you would keep Dan Marino out of the Hall? And Walter Payton?

Did Dan have more than 5 good years?

07-02-2007, 04:22 AM	#1
golfmenorca Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 449 Senior Member	Hall of Famer or Not Tiki Barber 17th in all-time rushing yards 10th in total yards from scrimmage 6- 1,000 yard rushing seasons (5 in a row) 3- 2,000 yard total offense seasons 528 carrer receptions - 8th all time for running backs 5 games of 200+ yards rushing (2nd behind O.J. Simpson) Pro Bowl: 2005, 2006, 2007 2 time league leader - Yards from scrimmage Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 04:23 AM	#2
videolkif Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 354 Senior Member	I vote yes. The only thing that will potentially keep him out is his career 67 touchdowns, which is not all that impressive. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 04:29 AM	#3
IntinyBut Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 491 Senior Member	I predict he'll be back in a year or two to add to those stats. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 04:30 AM	#4
StanWatts Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 418 Senior Member	I predict he'll be back in a year or two to add to those stats. I don't know Zero, Tiki already has a nice career lined up for himself, and unlike most of these ex-jocks, he's can speak, and has a brain in his head. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 04:30 AM	#5
sisimelanyk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 484 Senior Member	I think he belongs in the Hall, but I don't know if his first three seasons will be held against him or not. http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/BarbTi00.htm Only 930 yards and 3 TDs during that time frame. And he was behind guys like Gary Brown, Tyrone Wheatley, and Charles Way. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 04:32 AM	#6
Sironimoll Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 462 Senior Member	I think he belongs in the Hall, but I don't know if his first three seasons will be held against him or not. http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/BarbTi00.htm Only 930 yards and 3 TDs during that time frame. And he was behind guys like Gary Brown, Tyrone Wheatley, and Charles Way. He also had 1200+ yards receiving in that timeframe. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 04:35 AM	#7
Darlmtgq Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 485 Senior Member	5 good years does not a Hall of Fame career make. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 04:38 AM	#8
spamkillerf Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 607 Senior Member	I don't know Zero, Tiki already has a nice career lined up for himself, and unlike most of these ex-jocks, he's can speak, and has a brain in his head. But, I'd bet that he'll get up into the broadcast booth and, eventually, get that itch that so many players get to go back out there and play. I wouldn't bet against it happening. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 04:42 AM	#9
6ZCo3xuK Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 438 Senior Member	5 good years does not a Hall of Fame career make. Unless your John Riggens, Marcus Allen, or Earl Cambell Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 04:44 AM	#10
TerriLS Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 657 Senior Member	5 good years does not a Hall of Fame career make. I agree with this logic or Terrell Davis would be a Hall of Famer as well. The Hall should be both for greatness AND longevity. I would say a minimum of 10 years. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 04:51 AM	#11
GennadiyRom Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 450 Senior Member	The fact that he's more of a condescending douchebag than John Buck won't help his borderline stats. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 05:07 AM	#12
cut sifted ephedra sinica Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 365 Senior Member	17th in all-time rushing yards 10th in total yards from scrimmage Those two stats are hard to argue against no matter how many years of 'Hall of Fame' ball he played, though... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 05:16 AM	#13
SarSerceSaice Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 486 Senior Member	Those two stats are hard to argue against no matter how many years of 'Hall of Fame' ball he played, though... I think he's a borderliner. You must be careful about comparing raw stats of today compared to yesteryear. Offenses are a lot more complex then back then, and they play more games as well. If Tiki played at this level for another 2-3 years, I think there would be no question. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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BuyCheapest Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 625 Senior Member	Only in his last 3 years did he overcome his fumble-itis. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-01-2007, 10:43 AM	#15
marcusdexz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 412 Senior Member	I think he's a borderliner. You must be careful about comparing raw stats of today compared to yesteryear. Offenses are a lot more complex then back then, and they play more games as well. If Tiki played at this level for another 2-3 years, I think there would be no question. Very good point... It's going to be very hard to assess whether he will be Hall of Fame worthy... Personally, I am not one who feels that Terrell Davis is Hall of Fame worthy simply because of the longevity of his career, but I am pretty split in this particular case... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-01-2007, 12:48 PM	#16
ViktorialHDY Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 393 Senior Member	No titles. His yardage is good, but as was pointed out, he lacks the scoring #'s. Add to that a lack of titles, and if the question is, "Is he a Hall-Of-Famer?" then I say no. If the question is, "Will he make it to the Hall-Of-Fame?" then I say yes, he will. He's a real media darling in NY and has played the press well. He'll get the votes. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-01-2007, 09:31 PM	#17
PetraCromlich Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 467 Senior Member	His yardage is good, but as was pointed out, he lacks the scoring #'s. Add to that a lack of titles, and if the question is, "Is he a Hall-Of-Famer?" then I say no. If the question is, "Will he make it to the Hall-Of-Fame?" then I say yes, he will. He's a real media darling in NY and has played the press well. He'll get the votes. I agree. If he gets in, I'll be fine with it. If he doesn't, I'll be fine with it. Personally, I don't think he should get in, just not yet at least. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-01-2007, 06:01 PM	#18
ananciguinter Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 434 Senior Member	It will be tough considering the amount of years he played. I think he might get in because of the person who he is and was an overall good sports figure. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-01-2007, 07:56 PM	#19
Unhappu Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 553 Senior Member	No titles. His yardage is good, but as was pointed out, he lacks the scoring #'s. Add to that a lack of titles, and if the question is, "Is he a Hall-Of-Famer?" then I say no. So, based upon that logic, you would keep Dan Marino out of the Hall? And Walter Payton? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-01-2007, 08:10 PM	#20
angeldimmon Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 358 Senior Member	So, based upon that logic, you would keep Dan Marino out of the Hall? And Walter Payton? Did Dan have more than 5 good years? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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