A famous quote rings true today!

[Political truth]

"Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death."

Who would make such a statement?

Your answer - Adolph Hitler


The United Stated citizens are nothing more then puppets of FEAR! The government has done this by using the word "terrorism" to assure the citizens give up all there constitutional rights and freedoms in the name of "national security".
Who is the mastermind behind the corruption and lies sprewed across the American airwaves?
The new and improved Adolph Hitler - Mr George W Bush!

America is now the big brown turd that floats around the toilet bowl.... just waiting to be flushed.

Thanks to GWB

Your political truth

[STORM SHADOW]

"Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death."

Who would make such a statement?

Your answer - Adolph Hitler


The United Stated citizens are nothing more then puppets of FEAR! The government has done this by using the word "terrorism" to assure the citizens give up all there constitutional rights and freedoms in the name of "national security".
Who is the mastermind behind the corruption and lies sprewed across the American airwaves?
The new and improved Adolph Hitler - Mr George W Bush!

America is now the big brown turd that floats around the toilet bowl.... just waiting to be flushed.

Thanks to GWB

Your political truth

gawwwd you're so full of shit

pfffffft

THE STORM

[terryd5150]

gawwwd you're so full of shit

pfffffft

THE STORM



Hence the big brown turd referrence? I don't know, maybe....takes one to know one, I guess (?) *shrugs* :rolleyes:




PT, how many "freedoms" have you given up so "mock" terrorism could be fought?

I guess the goverment made up Sept 11th, the 1993 World Trade Center bombings, the attacks on our embassys, the bombing of a US Navy vessal in Yemen, etc.

Where is the Nazi-like propaganda and mind control you speak of?

Do the board a favor, next time come with facts and not opinions.

[ANAL_ASSASSIN_aka_FATNICK]

"Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death."

Who would make such a statement?

Your answer - Adolph Hitler


The United Stated citizens are nothing more then puppets of FEAR!

Here's another quote:

We have nothing to fear, but fear itself---President Roosevelt (2nd one, lol)

And you know what?

AMERICANS FACED THE FEAR OF THE MIGHTY JAPENESE EMPIRE AFTER THEIR SURPRISE, TERRORISTIC ATTACK ON PEARL HARBOR, AND WE ENDED UP DEFEATING BOTH THE JAPENESE AND THE GERMANS!

Americans might be quiet, peaceful and even apathetic at times....but as the Naval Commander for the Japenese said after the Pearl Harbor attack:

"I believe we have woken a SLEEPING GIANT".

Remember that: The USA is a sleeping giant. If shaken hard enough, whether by terrorism or other means, the AMERICAN GIANT WILL WAKE UP!!!

[STORM SHADOW]

Here's another quote:

We have nothing to fear, but fear itself---President Roosevelt (2nd one, lol)

And you know what?

AMERICANS FACED THE FEAR OF THE MIGHTY JAPENESE EMPIRE AFTER THEIR SURPRISE, TERRORISTIC ATTACK ON PEARL HARBOR, AND WE ENDED UP DEFEATING BOTH THE JAPENESE AND THE GERMANS!

Americans might be quiet, peaceful and even apathetic at times....but as the Naval Commander for the Japenese said after the Pearl Harbor attack:

"I believe we have woken a SLEEPING GIANT".

Remember that: The USA is a sleeping giant. If shaken hard enough, whether by terrorism or other means, the AMERICAN GIANT WILL WAKE UP!!!

I love you man but I only have one beef with what you wrote:

MIGHTY JAPENESE EMPIRE AFTER THEIR SURPRISE, TERRORISTIC ATTACK ON PEARL HARBOR

Terrorist and Japanese don't belong in the same sentence ever. The Japapese attack on Pearl Harbor was of honor, they attacked our military. Only chicken shit terrorists that don't wear a uniform so that they can blend into the masses are terrorists. One might say what the Japanese did to China was terrorism (which is really the worst holocaust the world has ever known, Jews can't hold a candle to what happened to China), but I beg to point out that the Japanese wore a uniform, had an obvious rank structure which clearly seperated the Officer from the enlisted. Their names were documented so that all would know where each person stood in the heirchy of authority. They did recognize the Geneva Convention (though not all officers in-charge of POW camps followed it.... ditto with some of our camps.. each side are guilty of criminal charges which would warrent the death penalty). During WWII at anytime the Japanese sub fleet could have sunk all the cargo ships coming from America that could have turned the tide of war and we all would be speaking German but they didn't under orders that "there is no honor in sinking a non combatant ship".

I say to you Muslims in the Mideast. You're terrorists...the lowest form of life on earth. You don't wear a uniform to be identified in time of war and most all of your attacks are on women, children, and the elderly. Milosovec's army of ethnic cleansers in Bosnia had more courage, ethics, and balls than you people will ever wish to have. Hitler, Stalin, and Mao stands out as model Citizens of the planet compared to you terrorists in the mid east.

THE STORM

[terryd5150]

...The Japapese attack on Pearl Harbor was of honor...
THE STORM


I agree that there is a profound difference between the Japan of WWII and modern-day terrorist groups.


But, do you really consider a sneak-attack to be "honorable"?



:confused:

[pete999]

I agree that there is a profound difference between the Japan of WWII and modern-day terrorist groups.


But, do you really consider a sneak-attack to be "honorable"?



:confused:


-is there any more honor when the #1 military superpower in the world preys on the weak and makes up lies and invades over and over again leaving rubble and death and disctuction with no responsability to anybody?...what is more honorable:

a) a strong opponent openly attacking a weak one and lying about his reasons
or
b) a weak opponent making a "sneaky" attack on a stronger one?


its sad to see what the mighty USA has become and how scared americans are...

as for sneak attacks whats up with the US steath bombers? the USA does not fight fair either...its not like they send in troops and follow some sort of "code of honor"...the US government uses cluster bombs in civilian areas (im a first hand witness)...the USA kills more civilians than all terrorist organisations in the world combined and calls it "colateral damage"...

from the ethic cleansing of over 7 million american natives to the period of slavery to the invasive post ww2 foreign policy im finding it hard to spot one single proud moment in US history...one country you "interveined" in that actually likes you...one place that waves the US flag and says "Thanks USA"...dont say israel lol...

i dont hate the USA im just pointing out that your shit smells too and that its naive to claim that the "terrorists" are any different from you...shit if they had your military power they would brand you "insurgents" and bomb the shit out of you officialy just like you do to them...

[STORM SHADOW]

I agree that there is a profound difference between the Japan of WWII and modern-day terrorist groups.


But, do you really consider a sneak-attack to be "honorable"?



:confused:

Yes I do.... Japan was a uniformed military with dog tags and recognized by the world as a Gov't. One military option that would be used by ANY Gov't on the planet if they had no other choice is to kill all the men of the opposing force between the ages of 14-40 to deprive them of military man power. Don't think for a sec that if China/Russia started WWIII against us that we wouldn't do that... it is a military option on the books and is very effective.

THE STORM

[STORM SHADOW]

-is there any more honor when the #1 military superpower in the world preys on the weak and makes up lies and invades over and over again leaving rubble and death and disctuction with no responsability to anybody?...what is more honorable:

a) a strong opponent openly attacking a weak one and lying about his reasons
or
b) a weak opponent making a "sneaky" attack on a stronger one?


its sad to see what the mighty USA has become and how scared americans are...

as for sneak attacks whats up with the US steath bombers? the USA does not fight fair either...its not like they send in troops and follow some sort of "code of honor"...the US government uses cluster bombs in civilian areas (im a first hand witness)...the USA kills more civilians than all terrorist organisations in the world combined and calls it "colateral damage"...

from the ethic cleansing of over 7 million american natives to the period of slavery to the invasive post ww2 foreign policy im finding it hard to spot one single proud moment in US history...one country you "interveined" in that actually likes you...one place that waves the US flag and says "Thanks USA"...dont say israel lol...

i dont hate the USA im just pointing out that your shit smells too and that its naive to claim that the "terrorists" are any different from you...shit if they had your military power they would brand you "insurgents" and bomb the shit out of you officialy just like you do to them...

What's wrong with using technology to fight war? would you rather send men to an unnecessary slaughter? that's just wrong.

Historically anyway.... Chivalry on the battlefield died at the advent of gunpowder.

THE STORM

[pete999]

What's wrong with using technology to fight war? would you rather send men to an unnecessary slaughter? that's just wrong.

Historically anyway.... Chivalry on the battlefield died at the advent of gunpowder.

THE STORM




i was just pointing out how there is no real difference between the japs so called sneaky attack on pearl harbour and the USA-s high tech stealth bombings of civilian areas with cluster bombs...ill give the japs a little more honor because it takes no balls to fly a high tech stealth mass murder machine or to blast civilians with long range missiles...

[STORM SHADOW]

i was just pointing out how there is no real difference between the japs so called sneaky attack on pearl harbour and the USA-s high tech stealth bombings of civilian areas with cluster bombs...ill give the japs a little more honor because it takes no balls to fly a high tech stealth mass murder machine or to blast civilians with long range missiles...

Either way... the Honorable Japanese and the Americans are uniformed soldiers that are 'supposed' to follow the 'The Rules of Land, Sea, and Air Warfare', the Hague, and the Geneva Convention. These ununiformed fighters have no honor, they hide amongst the sheep and use civilians as sheilds. They will never have the balls to meet the American soldier on the battlefield.

THE STORM

[Political truth]

What's wrong with using technology to fight war?

THE STORM

Exactly! Why didnt our government use it in Iraq? Its so easy to just drop bombs and kill everything in sight ... claiming "collateral damage".

The goal in iraq was (well after the wmd lie fell through and the ties to Osama went south) to spread "democracy" and free the people of a ruthless tyrant...Ha ha ha... well ok, lets say you actually believe that line of shit also....
Why not take out Saddam and his henchmen with our ELITE delta force or Nazi seals.. uh i meant Navy seals? Why not take out the heart of evil and be done with it? Why totally obliterate the entire fucking country?
Hmmm... you know what? Now that i think about it.... when did the insurgency come about? After we KILLED everything in sight. The insurgency is nothing more then the men who lost everything they lived for.... homes, family bla bla bla... If they invaded us and blow our nation all to hell... and you lost your wife and children i bet your ASS you would be an "insurgent" also. Insurgents have nothing to do with “terrorist” and in there eyes I am sure we are the “terrorist”.

God why cant Americans see past the "patriotic" bullshit that our government uses to BLIND them into believing there shit.

This war is nothing more then a waste of American soldiers lives for nothing more then control of OIL.
Lies lies lies … lies got us into this war and there lies keep us throwing more and more of our money into that useless waste of human life.
So... yes we should have used our "technology" instead of pulling down our pants and shitting on the entire country and then wiggling our small ass dicks at the rest of the world while beating our chest like King freakin Kong!

[Political truth]

PT, how many "freedoms" have you given up so "mock" terrorism could be fought?

I guess the goverment made up Sept 11th,

Where is the Nazi-like propaganda and mind control you speak of?
.\

Well,

First... we have lost SO many freedoms because of one 2 words... Patriot act!
They can basically do what they want to us and now they do. Unwarranted searches.... wire fucking tapping our phones... suspension of Habeas corpus... jesus bro if i have to point out the rights that have been taken away from you... then i honestly do not think its worth my time. You will figure that one out sooner or later... the hard way.


Second... No .. the government didnt "make up" 911 ... they CAUSED IT ... and USED it to start a war on NOTHING more then a made up lie in order to get a war in the middle east.... and why? Oil! Oil! Oil!
Again.. i can go on and on about this but it would be like speaking to a road sign.... ur never going to understand or get it because you are BLINDED by PATRIOTISM!

Third.... Are you kidding me? Where is the freakin propaganda? Watch the government controlled main stream medias news! Just because CNN or FOX... FOX... FOX (Georges network) says it doesnt mean its true. If George and clan want something "hyped" then its as easy as making a fake bullshit story ..ie... the liquid bomb crock of shit that just happened.
Then all the "masses" of American get freaked out of there minds... and FEAR FEAR FEAR sets in... and thats all the government NEEDS to take the control they have taken.

God.. why is this so hard for people see?

[STORM SHADOW]

I said it before and I'll say it again...

If one says "it's about the control of oil" I'll return with: So fucking what? Those that control the oil remain a strong free nation. It takes oil to have the most powerful military on the planet and when we don't have control of oil others will have control of us.... period.

If one says "it's about spreading democracy" I'll say: woo hoo! Capitalism is a drug and it's addicting. When there is a 7-11 on every corner and a McDonalds every square mile people become pacifists and don't want to give that luxury up... they turn pussy... less likely to go around giving up their life to destroy others. Yes... when all the mid east children have a slurpy in one hand and a McD's in the other... they will grow up to be good little consumers depending on the USA.

THE STORM AKA THE IMPERIALIST

[pete999]

Either way... the Honorable Japanese and the Americans are uniformed soldiers that are 'supposed' to follow the 'The Rules of Land, Sea, and Air Warfare', the Hague, and the Geneva Convention. These ununiformed fighters have no honor, they hide amongst the sheep and use civilians as sheilds. They will never have the balls to meet the American soldier on the battlefield.

THE STORM

the rules of land sea and air warfare + the hauge and the geneva convention do not apply to the USA...you have $ and power and nobody will ever bring your murdering army to justice because "justice" is what the US corporate democracy says it is at any given time or convenience...

as for the american soldier im trying to find a real difference between a common terrorist and any american who flies over to cluster bomb civilians over lies...the arab has no high tech stealth bomber so he turns a civilian transport aeroplane in to one...its a cowardly attack just like cluster bombing civilians from the USA...as for using "civilians as shields" i cant help but ask:

if the arab terrorists are supposedly using civilians as shields then why is the USA opening fire on them? who is the bigger chickenshit? the one hiding behind civilians or the one who flies over half the world on a lie and shoots at "civilian shields"?...

fancy uniform and bullshit propaganda aside what is the real difference between your "soldier" and their "insurgent"/terrorist?...

if all this is about oil and power then what is the real difference between you and the nazis?...they wanted exactly what you want ($ and power) and Hitler made up shit about "terrorists" burning up the house of parliament at the beginning of WW2 just like GWB made shit up about iraq...Hitler had no respect for human life outside of germany and the US is no different...

what makes you better/different?...

[STORM SHADOW]

I respected the German soldier of WWII and the Japanese of WWII as I respect the American soldier... what do they all have in common? They are uniformed and don't hide among the sheep... they all met on the battlefield. Yes there was a lot of collateral damage on both sides concerning civilians... but both sides of the fight wore a uniform... it does make all the difference. The insurgents in Iraq are not uniformed and are NOT under the authority of the Iraqi Gov't.. it makes all the difference in the world.

How war is fought is agreed to by most civilized nations... in such a way that when a Gov't loses the war, the losing Gov't ORDERS their own people to cease all hostilities to save the lives of their own people from the victor. People not working under the authority of the losing Gov't are a threat to peace and continually cost more lives.

There is a reason that war between great nations like Russia vs USA that blowing up all the leaders in Gov't is not an option! If the entire Gov't is destroyed, there's nobody to turn the fucking war off! The people will continue to wage the war until there is nobody left on both sides... you see? it's a control measure in place to SAVE LIVES which is also the reason our President is a 'CIVILIAN'.

In Iraq's case, we didn't execute Saddam on site, we arrested him like we do other countries with an interum Gov't ready to stand in to turn the war off. The insurgents are not working under the authority of the present Gov't of Iraq and therefore are a threat to all thus they must die.

THE STORM

[pete999]

the american soldier meets nobody on the battlefield just like the terrorist...first the brave brave brave american (hiding in the safety of their stealth aircraft) aviation bombs the crap out of some defenceless civilians just like a terrorist hides under the safety of his false identity ready to stike at defenceless targets and civilians...its the poor mans stealth bomber...
you mentioned uniforms i put it to you that at 10.000 meters one cant see your "uniform" or your stealth mass murder machine...


as for being a "legitamate uniformed army"...
the iraqi government is a bunch of puppets/opportunists...they command as much respect as the US government to the people of iraq: ZERO...
+your puppet government in iraq hates your guts and would love to see all americans die a slow and painfull death...
youre making the iraqi government sound like something legit...something the people stand behind + the people HATE you...the situation in iraq is a joke...and so is the word "insurgent"...youre basically taking away their right to self defence against a lying imperialistic oil dependant regime (US government)...

if there is "honor" in invading a country over a lie and taking its oil why is there no honor in attacking a stonger opponent out of uniform and in a sneaky way?...
(im talking about insurgents and not stuff like the WTC...the WTC is in the same category as stealth bombing)

obviously insurgents cant wear a uniform because youre stronger than them and they would get killed...its kinda like calling the jews terrorists during WW2 if they decided to retaliate against the germans without wearing uniforms temselves..."im the USA and im big and powerfull and i will bully you and you should take it up the ass and like it" may sound reasonable to you but its unrealistic to expect/demand the victim to do nothing and then bitch about it if its not under your imposed rules...

about the president being a civilian...this is very convenient eh?...dont kill the rich and powerfull let the tools in the army take it up the ass instead lol...its is completely untrue that if you hit a government that there would be no peace...i give you post ww2 germany as an example...hitler killed himself and viola WW2 was over in europe...+ its not like you have "peace" in iraq now with your puppet government...i give you countless revolutions as example...the government is the only threat to peace in the world...the US government is the biggest threat to world peace at the moment...fact is it invades/bombs/kills the most...your president is a hard core bomb dropping mass murdeing oil procuring chief and commander of the #1 military in the world...he is as far from being a civilian as one could possibly be...

[STORM SHADOW]

"the american soldier meets nobody on the battlefield just like the terrorist" then why have we lost soliders on the battlefield 'Iraq'? yes... we met them on the battlefield.

"you mentioned uniforms i put it to you that at 10.000 meters one cant see your "uniform" That's not the point... the point of the uniform is to hold a Gov't and to a lesser part the soldier under orders responsible unless of course the soldier is committing war crimes and is not following the orders of one's Gov't. We cannot hold the new Iraqi Gov't responsible for what civililian combatants are doing. One of the major reasons of uniforms is for Courts, Tribunals, POW rights, and such. 'Un-uniformed' soldiers can be treated really as spies and shot by a 'Uniformed' Firing Squad.

"the iraqi government is a bunch of puppets/opportunists" wrong, they really were elected by the Iraqi people not put in place by us. Our President was very worried about this election that the people of Iraq would elect another regime just like Saddam's and on camera he was asked about it and his response was "I hope they don't but they are free to do just that. This is an election by the Iraqi people and the difference this time is... they have a choice, Saddam gave them no choice" I do believe him.

"the situation in iraq is a joke" Iraq is a big Country. You're throwing out the baby with the bath water. Not all Iraq is going to hell. The northern part (the Kurdish part) is relatively successful. Saddam was committing genocide against them, they love us there. The Southern part is being stirred up by firebrands (one side being supported by Iran) trying to pull the Country into a civil war... this is not the US's doing.

"if there is "honor" in invading a country over a lie and taking its oil" there is absolutely no proof that this was to take their oil... if it was, oil prices would drop drastically and we would never have held and election in Iraq, we would have stayed in Iraq as Governors.

"obviously insurgents cant wear a uniform because youre stronger than them and they would get killed...its kinda like calling the jews terrorists during WW2 if they decided to retaliate against the germans without wearing uniforms temselves" Actually the truth is... Germany interned the Jews mainly because they were un-uniformed insurgents working with the French/English/Soviet underground. They really were a National Security threat. It wasn't until the outbreak of War agains the Soviets that it was decided to intern all Jews and use them as the primary labor force because all the German men were interned into the military and out at the three battle fronts fighting.

"hitler killed himself and viola WW2 was over in europe" the war was over. Germany lost big time and it's resources were gone by the time Hitler killed himself. Then the entire Country was occupied and seperated between the Soviets and the Allies and subjected to the will of the allies for 50 years! your arguement is hollow. We stayed there in total military force until the majority of the generation that fought us was dead of old age. Had we not, Germany would still be a problem.

"chief and commander of the #1 military in the world...he is as far from being a civilian as one could possibly be..." wrong, read the Constitution and the Federalist Papers. He's as civilian as any of us and cannot be charged in military courts, only civilian. Read these and you'll understand why the President has to be a civilian.


THE STORM

[pete999]

"the american soldier meets nobody on the battlefield just like the terrorist" then why have we lost soliders on the battlefield 'Iraq'? yes... we met them on the battlefield.

*** FIrst you flew over half the planet and bombed the crap out of them over a lie...aftermath: www.iraqbodycount.org ...40.000+ dead...thats kinda like terrorism is it not?

"you mentioned uniforms i put it to you that at 10.000 meters one cant see your "uniform" That's not the point... the point of the uniform is to hold a Gov't and to a lesser part the soldier under orders responsible unless of course the soldier is committing war crimes and is not following the orders of one's Gov't. We cannot hold the new Iraqi Gov't responsible for what civililian combatants are doing. One of the major reasons of uniforms is for Courts, Tribunals, POW rights, and such. 'Un-uniformed' soldiers can be treated really as spies and shot by a 'Uniformed' Firing Squad.

*** The US does not accept the Hague war tribunal LOL you cant sue the US at any war tribunal yet the US does the most killing...how very convenient eh?...Responsability? LOL... 40.000+ dead in iraq and its all the insurgents fault :rolleyes: ...its a good thing youre not really holding the iraqi government responsable for the insurgency LOL that would be just too funny...

"the iraqi government is a bunch of puppets/opportunists" wrong, they really were elected by the Iraqi people not put in place by us. Our President was very worried about this election that the people of Iraq would elect another regime just like Saddam's and on camera he was asked about it and his response was "I hope they don't but they are free to do just that. This is an election by the Iraqi people and the difference this time is... they have a choice, Saddam gave them no choice" I do believe him.

*** Yes i believe old mass murderer oil procurer GWB too...oooops! faulty intel 40K dead + iraq is such a fun place now but no worries for doobie what does he care about some shitty ass rag head camel fuckers...hes like a doctor who makes his patients die and still pretends to be the best!...i trust ol doobie any day and you should too!...as for "moderates" winning the "election" in iraq dont you think they were fed up with the USA bombing the crap out of them and keeping them under decades of sanctions?...you just bombed them into voting your way thats all there is to it...long live democracy!...hey next time put guns to their heads its eaier on them than the bombs...seriously...

"the situation in iraq is a joke" Iraq is a big Country. You're throwing out the baby with the bath water. Not all Iraq is going to hell. The northern part (the Kurdish part) is relatively successful. Saddam was committing genocide against them, they love us there. The Southern part is being stirred up by firebrands (one side being supported by Iran) trying to pull the Country into a civil war... this is not the US's doing.

*** Yes lets forget the decades of international sanctions you imposed on the people of iraq to punish saddam and his collection of cuban cigars...lets forget the bombings and the complete and utter destruction of livelyhoods of human beings in iraq and ALL BECAUSE a few men in the USA did not agree with the actions of 1 man (saddam) and wanted oil...the USA is the #1 rason iraq is such a joke...
they DONT LOVE YOU in any part of iraq and truth be told very few places in the world like you...go ahead and claim its because everybody is jelaous lol...

"if there is "honor" in invading a country over a lie and taking its oil" there is absolutely no proof that this was to take their oil... if it was, oil prices would drop drastically and we would never have held and election in Iraq, we would have stayed in Iraq as Governors.

*** Yes lets pretend that controling the oil in iraq the 3rd biggest site in the world does not give you a tactical advantage in any way...and you never held a fair election in iraq you just fucked up millions of careers and lives there and they voted your way out of desparation...the elections in iraq have the same value as second hand toilet paper...

"obviously insurgents cant wear a uniform because youre stronger than them and they would get killed...its kinda like calling the jews terrorists during WW2 if they decided to retaliate against the germans without wearing uniforms temselves" Actually the truth is... Germany interned the Jews mainly because they were un-uniformed insurgents working with the French/English/Soviet underground. They really were a National Security threat. It wasn't until the outbreak of War agains the Soviets that it was decided to intern all Jews and use them as the primary labor force because all the German men were interned into the military and out at the three battle fronts fighting.

*** Yes one should stand up to evil...any way one can..."terrorist" is a relative term...

"hitler killed himself and viola WW2 was over in europe" the war was over. Germany lost big time and it's resources were gone by the time Hitler killed himself. Then the entire Country was occupied and seperated between the Soviets and the Allies and subjected to the will of the allies for 50 years! your arguement is hollow. We stayed there in total military force until the majority of the generation that fought us was dead of old age. Had we not, Germany would still be a problem.

*** Yes but the fighting stopped...you calimed it would spark a civil war it didnt...like in most revolutions...

"chief and commander of the #1 military in the world...he is as far from being a civilian as one could possibly be..." wrong, read the Constitution and the Federalist Papers. He's as civilian as any of us and cannot be charged in military courts, only civilian. Read these and you'll understand why the President has to be a civilian.

*** Ah yes the constitution...i have much respect for document dafted by thieves,ethnic cleansers and slave traders...rich powerfull people and their puppets making up documents and stating whats legit and what isnt :rolleyes: ...

the president is the top commander of the army even if a peice of paper written by the rich and powerfull says otherwise...

[terryd5150]

Either way... the Honorable Japanese and the Americans are uniformed soldiers that are 'supposed' to follow the 'The Rules of Land, Sea, and Air Warfare', the Hague, and the Geneva Convention. These ununiformed fighters have no honor, they hide amongst the sheep and use civilians as sheilds. They will never have the balls to meet the American soldier on the battlefield.

THE STORM

Storm:

This is specificly what I was referring to. There was no declaration of war when Japan attacked Pearl, in fact their ambassador had recently presented "friendship" medals to the United States.


Others on this thread:

As far as "sneak attacking" other regions in current times, there is no sneak attack. The people we are after know we are after them. They know we are coming. That is not a sneak attack. We may bomb the hell out of them in the middle of the night when Muhammed Al-What the Fuck Ever had his dick in his hand dreaming of "crushing the infidels" but that is not a sneak attack, he knew we were after him.

Having the element of surprise and a "sneak attack" are really different things that carry different terms of honor. Do you think 9/11 was honorable?

I don't. So keep all that "US Zionist sh-t" to yourself. Radical Muslims awoke the very sleeping giant mentioned in this thread. Now that region is feeling the effects. DEAL WITH IT!