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GotActichwicy 12-18-2005 07:00 AM

I read the one about socialists in congress and then this one. Just exactly which other websites do you visit Mulder.. sorry, I mean Ted?

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Extipletape 01-14-2006 07:00 AM

The Beaver VS. The Eagle
 
THE BEAVER VS. THE EAGLE - WHO'S REALLY THE BIGGEST TYRANT?
By Scott Carpenter
June 7, 2001
I've said it for years and I'll say it again: Americans are simply Canadian socialists waiting to happen. Errr... that is our two worlds aren't as far apart as they sometimes seem. More to the point it appears that Americans may be beating us Canuks at our own game in some ways...
What? Don'tcha believe me? Hmmmm.... then you must be from the US.
Well, it's true I tell ya. So let's make a few comparisons and explore the similarities between our two "collectives" shall we?
Canada has a graduated income tax system - one of the many planks of the communist manifesto. The US also has a similar tax system backed up by a bigger, meaner and all together nastier bureaucracy - the IRS. The only difference between the two systems is degree of theft. In principle it's all the same dung - just a different and larger pile depending on which side of the border you're on.
Canada has a federally controlled police force (the RCMP) that does the bidding of our left wing, socialist, juggernaught of a government. The US has the FBI, the BATF, the NSA and a whole host of other alphabet soup style thugs to do the bidding of a slightly less left wing but nonetheless tyrannical government. Which leads me to believe the primary difference between a Republican and a Democrat may simply be spelling.
And that brings me to the fact that no mater who we vote for, in either country, we still end up with ranting collectivists whose most important platforms are based around promises to reform social security and health care. God forbid anyone mention liberty. But I digress...
Canada has nationwide state enforced, mandatory gun registration and licensing. The US has the Brady Bill, licensing for concealed carry, bans on ownership of all or some firearms in many jurisdictions and a new 'gun show bill' in the works that will require all those attending such shows to register themselves in a government data base.
Private property rights are virtually ignored in both countries by all levels of government from municipal and county right on up to the federal level. Try getting the permits to build an addition onto your own house in order without going totally mad and see what I mean. It's not just the feds who are out of control.
Both nations have a legal system that ignores the jury's right to judge the validity of the law in conjunction with the guilt of the defendant. In both nations the concept of justice is lost in a mess of rules and regulations called a legal system. In fact I suspect it may be impossible for justice to exist in such a system at all. Which may very well be the point.
Both nations suffer from the bogus war on drugs. Arguably, given statistics on prison populations and Canada's growing tolerance towards the use of pot for medical and recreational use, the US suffers more from this plague than its northern cousins do.
The US has truck loads of left wing, state supporting yuppies and celebrities with budding (Nay! I say blossoming!) political aspirations and a national media bent on the systematic destruction of what little freedom there is left south of the border. Canada has the CBC, the CRTC, the Ministry of Heritage and our most challenging and dangerous opponent in the fight against collectivism in all its forms to ever exist - the Molson Canadian (TM) beer commercial.
Both nations, at any given time, are busy sticking their noses into some other country's business without its permission. Canada does so under the guise of "peacekeeping" and in conjunction with other busy body states. The US does so under the guise of either "diplomacy" or "retaliation" for terrorist activities. Neither country ever formally wages war on anyone unless public opinion is firmly and fully on their side.
Both governments are busy brainwashing you into believing everything is OK by using nonsensical nationalist propaganda. Canadians are told we have a "Kinder, Gentler Society" and we're not "Americans" (see Molsons beer commercials). Americans are lead falsely to believe they live in the "Land of the Free". I'm still not sure which line of crap turns my stomach more.
Both nations are loaded with folks who believe rights are something written down on a scrap of paper and dictated to us by the courts, the legislatures and the 'majority'. As a result, both nations have become places where liberty is either a four letter word or forgotten all together.
And finally, the US has Alex Trebek and the Bare Naked Ladies. Unfortunately, so does Canada.
May God have mercy on us all.
Scott Carpenter is a free lance writer and the editor of the Canadian ezine Liberty Free Press.
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Sertvfdnhgjk 01-21-2006 07:00 AM

I don't think there is much of a difference between the two people's, Actually do to the size of the countries and the geographical and physical difference's, I probably have more in common with someone from the state of Maine than someone from Western Canada. Basically Canadians get most of their media from the U.S. as magazines and cable TV are common. Yes there are some difference's where we don't pay to go to the hospital or until recently pay to use highways (turnpikes) but i guess that is taken out of our taxes so we do pay in the long run. American's are alot more patriotic , flying flags and always raving about their country as being the best (which is a good thing to be patriotic). While the most patriotic thing for Canadians is showing Paul Henderson score the winning goal against the Russians in a 1972 Hockey Series (not a joke, thats true) . We also like to think were better liked across the rest of the world, were always told when going to other countries to wear a Maple Leaf so were not mistaken for American's but thats probably a myth. Finally we have better beer commercials, the best being Molson's I am Canadian which can be enjoyed by downloading it off Kazaa. Well thats my opinion

HugoSimon 03-26-2006 07:00 AM

And there is NOTHING wrong with eating a little BEAVER!

Actually I think that the United States, for all of our flaws is probably still the best place to live in the world. ALl the ranting about "liberty
I dont get, but then again, people who seem to always champion the legalization of pot seem to always complain about how the government is infringing on thier "rights" and "liberties".

BiseCreesia 04-05-2006 07:00 AM

Originally posted by Bogie
I read the one about socialists in congress and then this one. Just exactly which other websites do you visit Mulder.. sorry, I mean Ted?

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LOL If I'm Mulder, then TC must be scully (sp?). http://www.80sxchange.com/forums/ima...es/biggrin.gif

Soolfelpecelf 04-13-2006 07:00 AM

Originally posted by Caligula
[B]ummmmm. I was being serious BogieI meant my response would be more serious than my first, Cal. http://www.80sxchange.com/forums/ima...lies/smile.gif

I thought they were all Acajuns. lol

baronaaba 04-15-2006 07:00 AM

ummmmm. I was being serious Bogie , I think a couple other difference's which include our legal system and political system are very different as we still have alot of British Traditions, like all other Commonwealth Countries. BTW we don't have Cajuns. The French peoples of Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island are Acadians or Acadiens , They were originally expelled from here in 1755 and were deported to Louisiana where they became know as Cajuns. Many snuck back and live here today now I'm just flaunting my history major from Univiersity now http://www.80sxchange.com/forums/ima...lies/smile.gif http://www.80sxchange.com/forums/ima...lies/smile.gif

jurnalkduo 06-10-2006 07:00 AM

This is easy...

US invades Canada and Canada loses.

Eagle eats the beaver.http://www.80sxchange.com/forums/ima...lies/laugh.gif http://www.80sxchange.com/forums/ima...lies/laugh.gif http://www.80sxchange.com/forums/ima...es/biggrin.gif http://www.80sxchange.com/forums/ima...es/biggrin.gif

radicalvolume 07-18-2006 07:00 AM

Okay. A slightly more serious response. I'm not a native of either country so I don't think I have any bias when comparing the two.

I think Cal is right about the similarities between the two countries. We watch all the same shows Americans do: CNN, Days of Our Lives, Masterpiece Theatre. We see them all. Canadians are definitely not as overtly patriotic as Americans (that might be partially because one 5th of Canada keeps trying to leave). But I think Canadians are just as proud of their country as the Americans are of theirs. I think North Americans are pretty much the same. Both Canadian and U.S. populations are made up of native North Americans, English and Dutch protestants, Irish and Italian catholics, Cajun or Quebecois. And any other country around the globe you care to think of.

The real differences between the two come down to governance. And I never really thought of politicians as being a defining portion of any nation. To me they are mostly the same with only cosmetic differences (i.e., one may be a liar while the other is only a cheat lol). Universal health care does not make a country communist (not even sure it makes one socialist). I don't think of England and Canada as communist or even socialist countries.

One thing to keep in mind (and this is probably more related to the socialists in congress story) is that any country that did not believe in some form of redistribution of wealth, would have a 0% income tax rate and miniscule sales taxes. http://www.80sxchange.com/forums/ima...es/biggrin.gif


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