Canon EOS 400D users, i need a review !
 

I´m thinking about purchasing a Canon EOS 400D and i´d like to here what you guys think about the cam.
How do´s it compete against other DSLR´s ?
Is it worth the 500€ ? http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo.../confused1.gif

its a bit more than 500 euro, unless you just want the body. In summary - its a good camera. Good high ISO performance and some interesting new features in a canon camera. An alternative might be to pick up a 350d instead, as you'll save yourself some money, and won't really notice much difference in terms of features. Also look at the range of canon lenses to see if they have lenses at the prices you want, as once you buy a camera body, you buy into a camera system - remember that.

You should check this review. Should be very helpful.

As an owner, I'm pleased, except the fact it started screwing around with focusing recently. I sent it back and they should fix\re-program it's focusing device.

Don't let that hold you back, I'm just unlucky, it's been a great camera until this issue appeared, which is easy to fix(I think/hope).
Once you're into dSLR's, the thirst for new\better lenses will grow on you more and more, so my suggestion is prepare your bank account.

Good luck.[thumbup]

Hmm damit i almost bought one thinking a lens is in the set,
what does a "standard" lense cost ?
Is it possible to use lenses from non digital cams `? http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo.../confused1.gif

You can buy it with or without a lens, thou in your case buy it with the 18-55mm Kit Lens. don't listen to other people saying kit lens is rubbish and stuff, it not... it quite good actually and will do the job it needs for the time being.

THEN later on when you've got use to using your Camera other than in Auto or P mode & discovered what Aperture, ISO, metering, exposer, white balance, stopping down ect means then consider about what lenses to go for depending on what kind of style of shooting you do.

Also another thing to consider if you decide to get into this hobby is that it's not cheap if you want the best glass your going to have to pay for it.

Here a good place to learn what all the above means, and how to use you 400D properly.

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/enjoydslr/index.html

Kit lens is not rubbish, and can even surprise from time to time, but still has the worst quality, and it's not fast too, feels like a toy, I have one.
a much better, not expensive choice would be the new 18-55mm IS(Image Stabilizer).
Just get the body and this 18-55mm IS or, if you can afford it, something better.

I didn't say the kit lens was rubbish it's good if stopped down to around F8-11.

And as for the 18-55mm IS im actually tempted to go buy ones of these as people have said it's as sharp if not sharper than the 17-55mm F2.8 & 17-40mm F4L in some test's

I have the 17-40 L so it be good to see if it is actually as good as this lens, as people are making it out to be.

If you have a 17-40L then... wow, why buy a 18-55IS? L glass is L glass.

Just curious to see what it can do, plus when i come to sell the 400D i can sell the 18-55mm IS along with it.

I've been looking for some time now to get into the whole DSLR scene and this camera has stuck out for me, but as a beginner will I really notice anything wrong with the stock lens the 400D comes with in terms of image quality and shooting in many different types of conditions? Or should I make a sort of future investment and go with something higher end and grow into it like the 30D or 40D?

Look. as soon as you get used to it, and learn the basics of SLR's you'll then start comparing things, mainly it would be quality\sharpness. "Why isn't my photo as sharp as these?"
Well, because they use a lens that costs just as much as the camera did.
Now, I don't want to scare you away. The kit lens is a (VERY) budget designed lens, Optically and physically. handles like a toy, in some people's opinions, my opinion is not so far away from their, tbh.

At the beginning, when I got my 400D, I only had the kit lens, and very quick I wanted something that can produce photos I can call sharp. Then I bought a 50mm prime, which is cheap, about 75$, but it's sharpness is.... Too sharp. BUT- it's a prime(not a zoom lens).

A good idea would be purchasing a dSLR and the newer "kit lens" which is just the same as the kit lens (18-55mm F3.5-5.6) but with better optics and, ofcourse IS(Image Stabilization).
Why is it a good idea? because this 18-55 IS is still a cheap lens, and performs damn well, much much better then the older kit lens, there are some reviews and comparisons that you can check if you wish.

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Bi0hazarD you think the 50mm F1.8 is to sharp bloody hell dude you must have one mega good copy lol no lens is ever to sharp. If ya finding it to sharp thou have you tried turning the sharpness down in the camera.

... Too sharp is just a nice way to convey a message. What I originally meant was 'very sharp'.
And you don't need to have a mega copy to have a sharp 50mm F1.8. it is a very sharp lens.