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**Ingeborga** · 04-10-2011, 08:32 PM

Both have got +20 seconds, so Alonso keeps sixth place, but Hamilton is demoted to eighth. Hamilton's penalty was for making more than one direction change when defending his place from Alonso, while Alonso was for hitting Lewis - obviously.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90614

**untostaronaf** · 04-10-2011, 08:36 PM

**Izzy** · 04-10-2011, 08:40 PM

What a joke. Just completely crazy. Stewards are imbeciles and I am being far too kind here.

**Ingeborga** · 04-10-2011, 08:40 PM

Does anybody remember Hamilton doing more than one change of direction during the race? I don't.

If he did a significant change of direction, then I suppose that the penalty is OK, but, quite frankly, I don't remember him doing so.

**Misiotoagodia** · 04-10-2011, 09:26 PM

Rubbish, Alonso was the only one to blame in this case.
What were the stewards expecting Hamilton to do before a turn? Drive straight ahead?!

**Misiotoagodia** · 04-10-2011, 09:26 PM

What a joke. Just completely crazy. Stewards are imbeciles and I am being far too kind here.

It's been this way for many years now. Scary is that we keep watching a sport ruled and enforced by imbeciles.

**margoaroyo** · 04-10-2011, 09:32 PM

Words fail me.

**aaafluochugh** · 04-10-2011, 09:39 PM

I think my IQ actually dropped reading that. So stupid.

**weightpillsnow** · 04-10-2011, 09:51 PM

What a load of BS for both penalties. Alonso's hit was a racing incident and the stewards clearly watched some other race when it comes to the Hamilton incident.

**Ingeborga** · 04-10-2011, 10:01 PM

Autosport:

Hamilton got his penalty for his driving on the lap before he got hit by Alonso.
Hamilton said he was not shocked to have been hit with the penalty – which was for changing direction twice on the main straight.

I wouldn't like to sound like an outraged Lewis hater or anything, but if he did this, then the penalty is OK with me. It's rather harsh, though, but if FIA wants to tighten its driving standards, then this is the only way to do so.

**opdirorg** · 04-10-2011, 10:05 PM

It's been this way for many years now. Scary is that we keep watching a sport ruled and enforced by imbeciles.

And some of you wonder why many of those of us who followed racing for years upon years don't even bother with formula 1 any more? It is rotten to the core, being riddled with picayune rules and mismanaged by idiots and dolts whose greed is exceeded only by their incompetence. You are being had and being had big time.

**CtEkM8Vq** · 04-10-2011, 10:10 PM

Daft

Looked like Hamilton midly chopped Alonso.

**PeterPatrickJohn** · 04-10-2011, 10:20 PM

Words fail me.

Agreed. Like the penalty Hamilton was given in Fuji'08 for locking the brakes. Or Bourdais in the same race. This was pure racing incident.

**sherrferris** · 04-10-2011, 10:32 PM

Totally stupid. Hamilton did nothing wrong and Alonso was already punished anyway.

And I've had to redo the pickems!

**weightpillsnow** · 04-10-2011, 10:33 PM

Totally stupid. Hamilton did nothing wrong and Alonso was already punished anyway.

And I've had to redo the pickems!

Why? Personally I think we should keep the results as they were.

**CuittisIL** · 04-10-2011, 10:38 PM

Alonso did not suffer at all with his penalty, so why even bother??

Hamilton did, but I did not see him do anything that has not been standard practice for years and years.

One move? well what is more than one move anyway? Does it mean you can not get back into the racing line?

How about just say NO move, NONE, or just dump the rule.

**Misiotoagodia** · 04-10-2011, 10:42 PM

Autosport:
Hamilton got his penalty for his driving on the lap before he got hit by Alonso.
Hamilton said he was not shocked to have been hit with the penalty – which was for changing direction twice on the main straight.

Nowadays the lesser driver get's DRS to overtake and the one in front doesn't even have the right to defend his position welcome to the overtaking heaven!

**weightpillsnow** · 04-10-2011, 10:44 PM

Nowadays the lesser driver get's DRS to overtake and the one in front doesn't even have the right to defend his position welcome to the overtaking heaven!

until they ban movements when overtaking

They'll have to engineer the cars to do this to overtake

**Misiotoagodia** · 04-10-2011, 10:44 PM

How about just say NO move, NONE, or just dump the rule.

That is for the next evolution of the rules in WWF1!

**Misiotoagodia** · 04-10-2011, 10:47 PM

until they ban movements when overtaking

Honestly, if it is one move or no move no difference.
With what we have it is enough for the driver behind to mimic moving left and than go right and bingo it's done, 'great' overtaking move with an extra 20kmh gifted by the rulers!

04-10-2011, 08:32 PM	#1
Ingeborga Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 590 Senior Member	Penalties for Hamilton and Alonso in Malaysia Both have got +20 seconds, so Alonso keeps sixth place, but Hamilton is demoted to eighth. Hamilton's penalty was for making more than one direction change when defending his place from Alonso, while Alonso was for hitting Lewis - obviously. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90614 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Izzy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 652 Senior Member	What a joke. Just completely crazy. Stewards are imbeciles and I am being far too kind here. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-10-2011, 08:40 PM	#4
Ingeborga Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 590 Senior Member	Does anybody remember Hamilton doing more than one change of direction during the race? I don't. If he did a significant change of direction, then I suppose that the penalty is OK, but, quite frankly, I don't remember him doing so. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Misiotoagodia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 610 Senior Member	Rubbish, Alonso was the only one to blame in this case. What were the stewards expecting Hamilton to do before a turn? Drive straight ahead?! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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margoaroyo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 443 Senior Member	Words fail me. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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aaafluochugh Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 473 Senior Member	I think my IQ actually dropped reading that. So stupid. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-10-2011, 09:51 PM	#9
weightpillsnow Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 446 Senior Member	What a load of BS for both penalties. Alonso's hit was a racing incident and the stewards clearly watched some other race when it comes to the Hamilton incident. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-10-2011, 10:01 PM	#10
Ingeborga Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 590 Senior Member	Autosport: Hamilton got his penalty for his driving on the lap before he got hit by Alonso. Hamilton said he was not shocked to have been hit with the penalty – which was for changing direction twice on the main straight. I wouldn't like to sound like an outraged Lewis hater or anything, but if he did this, then the penalty is OK with me. It's rather harsh, though, but if FIA wants to tighten its driving standards, then this is the only way to do so. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-10-2011, 10:05 PM	#11
opdirorg Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 445 Senior Member	It's been this way for many years now. Scary is that we keep watching a sport ruled and enforced by imbeciles. And some of you wonder why many of those of us who followed racing for years upon years don't even bother with formula 1 any more? It is rotten to the core, being riddled with picayune rules and mismanaged by idiots and dolts whose greed is exceeded only by their incompetence. You are being had and being had big time. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-10-2011, 10:10 PM	#12
CtEkM8Vq Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 531 Senior Member	Daft Looked like Hamilton midly chopped Alonso. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-10-2011, 10:20 PM	#13
PeterPatrickJohn Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 475 Senior Member	Words fail me. Agreed. Like the penalty Hamilton was given in Fuji'08 for locking the brakes. Or Bourdais in the same race. This was pure racing incident. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-10-2011, 10:32 PM	#14
sherrferris Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 605 Senior Member	Totally stupid. Hamilton did nothing wrong and Alonso was already punished anyway. And I've had to redo the pickems! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-10-2011, 10:33 PM	#15
weightpillsnow Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 446 Senior Member	Totally stupid. Hamilton did nothing wrong and Alonso was already punished anyway. And I've had to redo the pickems! Why? Personally I think we should keep the results as they were. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-10-2011, 10:38 PM	#16
CuittisIL Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 726 Senior Member	Alonso did not suffer at all with his penalty, so why even bother?? Hamilton did, but I did not see him do anything that has not been standard practice for years and years. One move? well what is more than one move anyway? Does it mean you can not get back into the racing line? How about just say NO move, NONE, or just dump the rule. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-10-2011, 10:42 PM	#17
Misiotoagodia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 610 Senior Member	Autosport: Hamilton got his penalty for his driving on the lap before he got hit by Alonso. Hamilton said he was not shocked to have been hit with the penalty – which was for changing direction twice on the main straight. Nowadays the lesser driver get's DRS to overtake and the one in front doesn't even have the right to defend his position welcome to the overtaking heaven! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-10-2011, 10:44 PM	#18
weightpillsnow Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 446 Senior Member	Nowadays the lesser driver get's DRS to overtake and the one in front doesn't even have the right to defend his position welcome to the overtaking heaven! until they ban movements when overtaking They'll have to engineer the cars to do this to overtake Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-10-2011, 10:44 PM	#19
Misiotoagodia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 610 Senior Member	How about just say NO move, NONE, or just dump the rule. That is for the next evolution of the rules in WWF1! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-10-2011, 10:47 PM	#20
Misiotoagodia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 610 Senior Member	until they ban movements when overtaking Honestly, if it is one move or no move no difference. With what we have it is enough for the driver behind to mimic moving left and than go right and bingo it's done, 'great' overtaking move with an extra 20kmh gifted by the rulers! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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