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03-02-2012, 04:15 PM | #21 |
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Wow! Let me just say first...A big Thank you to you Annie! And secondly, keep up the good work!! You qualify to be canonized as a saint in my opinion. I just had the great good fortune to fall into the hands of the Quakers at an early age. My family was rich and they had the best schools .. like Sidwell Friends in DC where both Clinton and Obama sent their kids.. And the Quakers are MASTER educators.. they just train you to "find your call that is all in all" My grand mother's grandmother, Josephine Sophia Griffing, founded the Freedman's Beaureau in DC after the Civil War and I have been marching for racial harmony since 1962 so perhaps it is just in my blood. But no missionary stuff for me, thanks anyway! |
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03-02-2012, 10:14 PM | #22 |
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Good job Annie, you started something! http://elizabetheames.blogspot.com/2...button_03.html pass the hat, please I will take the equivalent of a frio (or more) from anyone who has the pesos! |
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03-03-2012, 12:30 AM | #23 |
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Since there are many different types of Quakers.. and since I do not expect you all to slog through 5 years of the blog
here Changing Perspectives: Quaker School- Quaker Values is the post that perhaps describes my experience |
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03-03-2012, 02:10 AM | #24 |
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Frank-- PLEASE spare me from sainthood! I am rife with all the seven deadly sins and some of them I am quite enjoying and intend to keep, thank you very much! I am LOVING my life here. I get onto my email in my jamies in my bed every morning with my coffee and am in contact with the folks who love HAiti and we try to figure out something positive. Many Quakers live incredibably simple lives although holding highly paid positions in medicine etc. Peace testimony anniversary | Quakers in Britain pi2 |
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03-03-2012, 06:59 AM | #25 |
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04-02-2012, 01:24 PM | #26 |
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There certainly are many types of Quakers: |
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04-02-2012, 03:05 PM | #27 |
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Yes... You know his mother spent the year before his election travelling among Quaker Meetings telling them not to vote for her son since he did not embody Quaker values. And his Meeting in Whittier, CA wrote a public letter asking that he stop identifying himself as a Quaker. Resonding endorsements, eh? pi2 |
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04-02-2012, 04:37 PM | #29 |
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Also of course Daisy Dougnlas Barr of KKK fame. Quakers believe that the individual conscience is the guide ; not the Good Book. It is somewhat strange to go to a Quaker meeting and hear the testomonies. The underlying element in Quakerism is perhaps practice of what the conscience dictates - this unites Quakers. So there may not be a contradiction between McCarthy etc. being Quakers; Just that their consciences led them in different directions to most others. Of course early Quakers, Penn etc. kept slaves. PENN did not keep slaves.... but yes, many Quakers did. We had one Friend, John Woolman, who traveled among Friends in the South "laboring" with them over the issue for 20 years! And they did not pass a minute against slavery until he died. Friends take a long time to consensus-- which is, I guess, come together in conscience. |
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04-02-2012, 04:37 PM | #30 |
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04-02-2012, 05:31 PM | #31 |
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Also of course Daisy Dougnlas Barr of KKK fame. Quakers believe that the individual conscience is the guide ; not the Good Book. It is somewhat strange to go to a Quaker meeting and hear the testomonies. The underlying element in Quakerism is perhaps practice of what the conscience dictates - this unites Quakers. So there may not be a contradiction between McCarthy etc. being Quakers; Just that their consciences led them in different directions to most others. Of course early Quakers, Penn etc. kept slaves. Holy Ordinary: Musings and Photography from a Quaker Perspective: Lost Quaker Journals: #4 -- Daisy Douglass Barr but McCarthy? Perhaps you mistook the photo of Richard Nixon? who was raised, ineffectively, by a Quaker family inside a Quaker Meeting. |
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04-02-2012, 06:01 PM | #32 |
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I am sorry ; but like my Godfather who was also an important Quaker; you are choosing to re-write the history books.
Evidence is that Penn preferred slaves to servants; he kept slaves; he liberated some. William Penn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia welcome to penns woods: William Penn And Slavery Actually his writings supported slave owning too. Do not argue with me : Edit Wilkipedia with your evidence: but I have seen some of his original documents and am convinced the two sources cited; and many others; are correct. Of course the Cadbury family and other important Quakers used slavery to support thier empires. Well into the 20th century In Africa ; elsewhere! Cadbury's As a child I was always persuaded not to eat the product of this evil trade. pi2 BBC News - How did Quakers conquer the British sweet shop? |
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04-02-2012, 07:15 PM | #33 |
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thanks .. I had not heard of Barr.. here is one discussion Smedly Butler was of course an important Quaker from that part of the US. Anyhow the point I was trying to make is that you can believe all sorts of strange things as a member of a Quaker meeting as long as you turn up and carry out good works. Masons with a difference? pi2 |
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04-02-2012, 10:43 PM | #34 |
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Yes... You know his mother spent the year before his election travelling among Quaker Meetings telling them not to vote for her son since he did not embody Quaker values. And his Meeting in Whittier, CA wrote a public letter asking that he stop identifying himself as a Quaker. Resonding endorsements, eh? Josiah Harlan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
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04-02-2012, 11:36 PM | #35 |
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04-03-2012, 01:09 AM | #36 |
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04-03-2012, 01:10 AM | #37 |
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05-03-2012, 04:24 AM | #38 |
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new post
I know where I wanna go to party! Changing Perspectives: S.E.M Martelly chante pour Sean Penn au Palais National |
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06-02-2012, 02:51 PM | #39 |
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I wanna go too!
So I can punch Sean Penn in the nose! I think he is a really good actor,but not my cup od political tea. He is the "Jane Fonda" of this generation.He and Danny Glover both. As far as I am concerned,they are both guilty of treason against the United States of America,for giving "aid and comfort" to the enemy! They both love,and support,"Castro","Chavez",Achmadinajad(SP?) and others. At least God is taking care of Castro,and Chavez,and the Israelis will soon take care of "That Iranian"! "Annie" I jst saw your picture on your "Blog".You look like you could be my older sister,but when she was MUCH younger. Since you were raised in "GV" during it's more "Radical" political time,I can forgive you for your "Unusual Politics",not really "Politics",but for being so "Nice"! Keep swimming against the tide,you'l get there! CC |
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06-02-2012, 03:03 PM | #40 |
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Annie,
I just read your blog here about the missionaries in Haiti, the Mudhuts vs cement block houses, etc...it was spot on and funny. I really enjoy your writing and wit--they're both a breath of fresh air. Changing Perspectives: A rant on Missionaries Frank |
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