Chavez affirms that he is a dictator. - DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate

**Immampdah** · 09-13-2006, 07:04 AM

the most gerrymandered state in the western hemisphere. What does Chavez have to do with Texas?

**education** · 09-13-2006, 07:24 AM

Agathon left? Huzzah.

**Rchzygnc** · 09-13-2006, 07:27 AM

as long as the (presidential) elections are fair, and he keeps getting voted, no major problem

Altough one of the few things I like about USA elections, is that the president can only stay for 8 years, I dont like
people who want to stay forever

**Clilmence** · 09-13-2006, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
as long as the (presidential) elections are fair, and he keeps getting voted, no major problem

Altough one of the few things I like about USA elections, is that the president can only stay for 8 years, I dont like
people who want to stay forever Well stated Brachy-Pride.

**Vzkdgdqx** · 09-13-2006, 08:32 AM

Techumseh, you take the thread titles too literally.
(titles are worded in such a way as to fuel discussion, that is all - but I think you already know this.

)

No, I for one do not see where Chavez has "confirmed" anything. But to the outside world looking in, it would "seem" that Chavez is taking on "dictator-like" actions. Of course, like I stated earlier, it is for the Venezualan populace to decide...

**Gymnfacymoota** · 09-13-2006, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by Sikander
The Venezuelan populace as interpreted by Chavez's political machine.

And that is the crux of the current situation Sikander.

God, politics is such a slippery slope.

**Xlkl9SFd** · 09-13-2006, 11:13 AM

Do you have a link?

**PoideAdelereX** · 09-13-2006, 04:14 PM

This is what I found after a quick google search:

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/...l_Campaign.php

**Anykeylo** · 09-13-2006, 04:40 PM

The situation in Venezuela is interesting. When we think of democracies, we tend to think of liberal democracies, which Venezuela clearly is no longer. But, believe it or not, there can be democracies that do not align with American liberal values.

**NumDusthouh** · 09-13-2006, 05:13 PM

No boy, there's a difference between allowing someone to run for an indefinite amount of terms and rewriting a constitution to make yourself dictator.

**DianaDrk** · 09-13-2006, 05:23 PM

"stay" dictator?

**freddyujnf** · 09-13-2006, 05:35 PM

...it could be a duck hunter.

**TineSeign** · 09-13-2006, 06:06 PM

Who besides dictators change the constitution so that they can run for another term? Honest heads of state do not have that much power.

Besides, unlimited time in power is one of the traditional hallmarks of dictatorship since the Roman times. At least Sulla was virtuous in resigning his dictatorship quickly after wrapping up his dirty deeds. Chavez has no such virtues.

**Crilosajsamq** · 09-13-2006, 06:23 PM

@OP

If he has enough seats to change the constitution he can do whatever he wants, thats called democracy

**Emunsesoxmete** · 09-13-2006, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by DanS
Who besides dictators change the constitution so that they can run for another term? Honest heads of state do not have that much power. Uribe of Colombia, a US ally, did that a few months ago.

I can't stand Chavez, and think he already is a dictator, but this doesn't prove it. If a country wants to elect its president for a third term, it should be able to.

**flienianO** · 09-13-2006, 07:14 PM

I think it would get bi-partisan support because then, the Democrats could run Bill Clinton again.

**RemiVedia** · 09-13-2006, 07:57 PM

This thread goes to show no argument for Chavez being a dictator has been given

**Mello** · 09-13-2006, 08:05 PM

"The people will vote away thier rights." -Ben Franklin.

**pongeystrhjst** · 09-13-2006, 08:11 PM

Venezuelans can still vote away their president.

**addyta.org** · 09-13-2006, 08:14 PM

You obviously can't trust a clearly right wing reactionary biased organization like hrw.org.

09-13-2006, 07:04 AM	#1
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Rchzygnc Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 366 Senior Member	as long as the (presidential) elections are fair, and he keeps getting voted, no major problem Altough one of the few things I like about USA elections, is that the president can only stay for 8 years, I dont like people who want to stay forever Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Clilmence Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 421 Senior Member	Originally posted by Brachy-Pride as long as the (presidential) elections are fair, and he keeps getting voted, no major problem Altough one of the few things I like about USA elections, is that the president can only stay for 8 years, I dont like people who want to stay forever Well stated Brachy-Pride. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Vzkdgdqx Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 433 Senior Member	Techumseh, you take the thread titles too literally. (titles are worded in such a way as to fuel discussion, that is all - but I think you already know this. ) No, I for one do not see where Chavez has "confirmed" anything. But to the outside world looking in, it would "seem" that Chavez is taking on "dictator-like" actions. Of course, like I stated earlier, it is for the Venezualan populace to decide... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-13-2006, 08:59 AM	#6
Gymnfacymoota Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 470 Senior Member	Originally posted by Sikander The Venezuelan populace as interpreted by Chavez's political machine. And that is the crux of the current situation Sikander. God, politics is such a slippery slope. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Anykeylo Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 402 Senior Member	The situation in Venezuela is interesting. When we think of democracies, we tend to think of liberal democracies, which Venezuela clearly is no longer. But, believe it or not, there can be democracies that do not align with American liberal values. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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NumDusthouh Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 382 Senior Member	No boy, there's a difference between allowing someone to run for an indefinite amount of terms and rewriting a constitution to make yourself dictator. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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TineSeign Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 507 Senior Member	Who besides dictators change the constitution so that they can run for another term? Honest heads of state do not have that much power. Besides, unlimited time in power is one of the traditional hallmarks of dictatorship since the Roman times. At least Sulla was virtuous in resigning his dictatorship quickly after wrapping up his dirty deeds. Chavez has no such virtues. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Crilosajsamq Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 517 Senior Member	@OP If he has enough seats to change the constitution he can do whatever he wants, thats called democracy Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-13-2006, 06:59 PM	#15
Emunsesoxmete Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 593 Senior Member	Originally posted by DanS Who besides dictators change the constitution so that they can run for another term? Honest heads of state do not have that much power. Uribe of Colombia, a US ally, did that a few months ago. I can't stand Chavez, and think he already is a dictator, but this doesn't prove it. If a country wants to elect its president for a third term, it should be able to. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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flienianO Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 440 Senior Member	I think it would get bi-partisan support because then, the Democrats could run Bill Clinton again. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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RemiVedia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 474 Senior Member	This thread goes to show no argument for Chavez being a dictator has been given Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Mello Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 495 Senior Member	"The people will vote away thier rights." -Ben Franklin. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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pongeystrhjst Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 718 Senior Member	Venezuelans can still vote away their president. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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