[interbaoui]

The nation's fiscal situation is already much, much worse than under Bush and Obama's decision to double down in Afghanistan means we'll be up to our necks in COIN warfare and nation-building for the forseeable future. Things are already worse than under Bush and Pakistan looks like it might go down in the near future...

[mr.calisto]

I don't really see much upside here for the Dems. Specter gets to survive, and yet asserts that he will continue to oppose various Dem legislation.

Why not let him lose the GOP primary and then beat the Republican candidate in the general with a good candidate of your own? Does such a good candidate not exist?

-Arrian

[jelena-nanana]

He's doing it because he can't get re-elected as a Republican. Duh.

This should be no cause for celebration among Democrats. He's just lifted the lid on the septic tank and let us smell the stinking cesspool of self-promotion that is modern politics.

[trettegeani]

So, where does this leave the GOP nationally

This particular event has no impact on the national standing of the GOP. It may have an impact on Pennsylvania, but that impact may be complicated. It may have an impact on a few votes in the Senate.

[herawaq]

[Q=DinoDoc;5585734]Considering the value of his word, I wouldn't hold my breath on him switching his position on Labor's No Choice act:[/q]

What choice does Labor have now? The choice to hold an election is entirely in the hands of the business, not the workers. EFCA moves that choice to the workers.

[RobsShow]

What choice does Labor have now? The choice to hold an election is entirely in the hands of the business, not the workers. EFCA moves that choice to the workers.

More precisely:

Now, labor gathers cards from 50.1% of the employees asking for a union, and then the labor gets to demand an election as to whether to unionize.

With the new law, if labor gathers cards from 50.1% of the employees asking for a union, presto: they're unionized.

This just simplifies a two-step procedure into a one-step procedure. But either way, the union still needs a majority of workers to support it.

BTW: If management wants to decertify a union, it need only gather cards from 50.1% of its employees asking for decertification.

[Coededgeme]

What choice does Labor have now?

Deal with a secret ballot they can't influence?

[namaikaimvputka]

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

You're leaving Apolyton?

[DoctoNilsonDen]

More precisely:

Now, labor gathers cards from 50.1% of the employees asking for a union, and then the labor gets to demand an election as to whether to unionize.

With the new law, if labor gathers cards from 50.1% of the employees asking for a union, presto: they're unionized.

This just simplifies a two-step procedure into a one-step procedure. But either way, the union still needs a majority of workers to support it.

BTW: If management wants to decertify a union, it need only gather cards from 50.1% of its employees asking for decertification.

Yeah, who needs secret ballots. That's just Unamerican! Let's ask George McGovern, uber-conservative, what he thinks of this?

[Gscvbhhv]

Yeah, who needs secret ballots. That's just Unamerican!

So you think it's okay that management, who has the power to hire and fire, can do a card check to decertify a union, but that labor organizers, who have no power of the employees, must do first a card check and then an election to certify a union?

Yep, that sounds fair and balanced.

[lookanddiscover]

A politician making a questionable choice in order to hang onto power! Who would have thought it could happen?

[Suentiend]

Well, there was last December, when my local returned $200 of unneeded union dues to each member just in time for the holidays. So, they returned your own money, and you are happy about that?

BTW: Last night, I heard an interesting observation on the Specter move. The Republican party has driven so many of its moderates over to the Democratic Party that Specter was forced to follow them because those people are his base. Change it to read, 'Democrats', and that will be accurate.

Specter left because he fears Toomey crushing him in the Republican party nomination. IMHO, a wise move, to shift to the Democrats because the competition is just too tough.

[bebeacc]

More precisely:

Now, labor gathers cards from 50.1% of the employees asking for a union, and then the labor gets to demand an election as to whether to unionize.

That's not how it works. As soon as the 50% +1 sign cards, they can ask the employer to recognize the union. Then the employer has a the choice of whether or not to demand an election. Then for the next few months, the employer gets to have captive meetings where they tell the employees lies about unions (we'll have to replace all of you with out of work union members, etc.), fire pro-union workers, and threaten them with retaliation or plant closure if the union is voted in.

EFCA takes the decision for an election out of the employers hands, where it never should have been in the first place. EFCA allows for secret ballot if 1/3rd of the employees ask for one.

[attlawqa]

So, what does this mean? Ion Storm has closed, but maybe with Junction Point we'll see an FPS probing the moral greys of educational and healthcare issues instead?

[nerohedfrs]

To be fair, he was pretty moderate in Ultima Underworld, despite being quite upset.

[duexjepevef]

I get it. Labor was loosing such votes which they couldn't influence or intimidate the votes and has decided to try and change the rules of the game.

No, labor was losing votes which the employer could intimidate, which was all of them. EFCA doesn't get rid of secret ballot. It only takes away the employer's right to impose it on the workers.

It takes less workers to demand a secret ballot than it takes to win card check. The workers' rights are preserved, but you'd rather LIE about the secret ballot being taken away from them.

[mikaelluioy]

They aren't, and EFCA doesn't exempt them from secret ballots. It puts the decision for a secret ballot where it belongs, with the workers, and takes it away from someone to whom it should never belonged, the bosses. Right now, the workers have no say in the matter.

UNDER EFCA, IF 1/3RD OF THE WORKERS ASK FOR A SECRET BALLOT ELECTION, THEY GET ONE!