[bribiaLaubysdggf]

I would say he wants to change:
1) in part
2) in part
3)
8)
and don't know about the others, really.

That help?

[Serttyfd]

More specificity please

Originally posted by snoopy369
I would say he wants to change:
1) in part by _______
2) in part by _______
3) by _______
8) by _______
and don't know about the others, really.

That help?

[TZtrDuso]

Originally posted by snoopy369
Really. The Republican Party wants to get Republicans elected to Congress. Wow. That's, like, mind-boggling, man... It's not too much change though. For decades, we Democrats have been doing everything we possible could to get Republicans elected to Congress.

[Chooriwrocafn]

Bush the second was also for healing the rift between the parties before the first election... bah you are screwed no matter what choice... you should vote third pary, all of US-ians who are smart enough to use the internets at least... (Wiglaf is excused )

[SM9WI8oI]

Well, if you look at what what Palin said in an interview, they want to abandon the policy of second-guessing Israel pursued by those hippie liberals in the Bush-Cheney administration.

[sapedotru]

It's a political gimic. Bush is the most unpopular president in recent history by far. So people want change. McCain isn't against Bush or any of his policies though. It's deception, and it's against what made McCain what he is today. McCain built his career on being the honest, straight dealing, American hero. Now in just a short period he's ruined all that just to get elected. Hell, if he really stood for what he claims he does he would tell people to vote for Obama.

[asivisepo]

Originally posted by Mrs Snuggles
And I've always thought being an expatriate had a romantic sensibility to it... It does... sadly at this point, becomming an expatriate is becomming more and more difficult for me

The romantic sensibility is certainly there.

[KlaraNovikoffaZ]

I'll have to say, though, a good point was brought up to me the other day; part of the Democrat's problem is that, like the Republicans, they're terribly elitist, the Republicans have the good sense to hide it from the unwashed masses.

It doesn't make sense to elitists like us why field-dressing a moose is somehow honorable, or "hunting" defenceless animals is "sport" and "American", but that's because our palates are better able to distinguish arugula from iceberg, and would rather have our tofu slaughtered humanely. While we, too, would like to have a drink with our elected leaders, our drinks would probably be finely crafted South African sherries in a cozy salon--which is miles away from the car bombs that they'd be drinking in dive bars whose ideas of beer stein sanitation begin and end with a rinse in lukewarm water that hasn't been changed since the week before.

Most of America is about that small-town sensibility: to us, we only see the slow, stagnant death of crushed dreams, hopeless resignation, and meth-fueled escapism, but to them they see familiarity with their neighbors and plenty of young, soon-to-be-marital tail. Oh, and [insert minority here]-bashing.

Which is always fun. That last part, I can totally understand. I hate those ****ing gooks who come here to take our PhD slots, and those fags who always seem to want to suck my dick.

Wait, no. I meant to say, small-town values are American values. Christian values.

[Rinkeliacasse]

Originally posted by Colon™


I might be biased but Antwerp is a great place to live. Unfortunately, with the falling dollar and climbing euro, most Americans cannot afford to live in Europe. Heck, most Americans can't even afford to live in America.

[Sxscdergh]

Originally posted by Zkribbler


Unfortunately, with the falling dollar and climbing euro, most Americans cannot afford to live in Europe. Heck, most Americans can't even afford to live in America. Most Americans would find that their dollar goes for a lot less in Canada, too.

[Metrujectiktus]

Originally posted by Kidicious
I hate elitism. It disgusts me, but hell it's pretty hard not to think you're better than a redneck.

I'm hoping your purposely meant this as a joke .

[Farson]

Originally posted by asleepathewheel


no kidding. Kid is (strangely enough) one of the more elitist posters around here. In my own defense it has everything to do with their worldview and nothing else. I mean the rednecks who bath are acceptable.

[VemyhemiHef]

Sorry, Zb. I got Sloww's panties in a wad first. Try again for round two!

[extessarere]

Originally posted by snoopy369


I know he wants to cut taxes for the middle class further. I know he wants to make sure we have the right people in Iraq with the right tools to do the job. I know he wants us to have a more positive relationship with our friends overseas. I believe he wants to limit the effects of lobbyists (whether he says it or not right now, he has a history of campaign finance reform and such and I trust him to stick to that once he wins the election).

I do slightly adjust some of your silly targets, given they were put forth in a non-neutral way ... but they are not unreasonable adjustments.

He also wants to restore the dignity of the office of the President, which is a change certainly, and work towards bipartisan goals, which is a major change, healing the rift between the parties. That's why I supported him in the primaries, as opposed to the more combative folks on the further right ... Those are all good things about McCain, however the longer this campaign goes on the less faith I have that he'll do any of that. With the ugly, dirty campaign he is running what hope does he have of healing the rift between the parties? He is making that rift worse. When he gets all upset over an obviously innocuous "lipstick on a pig comment" how is he going to restore dignity to the office of the president?

For me, his campaign is unraveling the image he has built for himself over the last few years. I simply don't trust him anymore. We was for immigration reform - now he's against it. He was against the tax cuts - now he's for them. I don't know why the Obama camp isn't trying to throw the flip-flopper label on McCain, it fits. I really don't know what he would do if elected. Which McCain would be in the White House?

I don't trust the republicans overall either. I watched the campaign and was totally down with their rhetoric. They said all the right things and hit all the right buttons for me. But for the last 8 years they've spent more money and been more fiscally reckless in office than the Democrats could ever hope to be. So I don't trust them.

[bypeTeenehalT]

Nothing will restore international confidence in the US like removing Republicans from office. Certainly McCain/Palin won't do it.

[cenRealliat]

I don't know why the Obama camp isn't trying to throw the flip-flopper label on McCain, it fits.

Cause they can throw it back on him for public financing, FISA, etc.

The dirty little secret is that recently the Republicans are FAR better at running campaigns for President than the Democrats are. They seem to "get it", which is where the meme of Dems stealing defeat from the jaws of victory comes from.

[casinobonuscxz]

Originally posted by Kidicious


I guess you have to act like you are the only true americans, and the other party is the party of evil foreigners, and call yourself morally superior, then pull every dirty trick in the book to get elected. Yes, actually

Well, there was an article in the NYTimes that had an interesting link to some psychologist's article about the basis of morality. Made for an enlightening read. I'll see if I can find it.

[krasniyluch]

Originally posted by rah
Yes both parties use dirty tricks. What a surprise.
But history has shown that the repugs are better at it.

Come on, we have one of the least liked presidents in history and the repugs still have a chance to get another one elected. Only in AMERICA.

It does raise the question of why would you vote for a democrat since the party as a whole is obvioiusly imcompetent at presidential elections. Heck the last dem in the white house was really a republican. The thing is that you guys use dirty tricks and the idiots absolve you of it because they buy into the idea that liberals are anti-american.

[Signabeademia]

Originally posted by rah
Yes both parties use dirty tricks. What a surprise.
But history has shown that the repugs are better at it.

Come on, we have one of the least liked presidents in history and the repugs still have a chance to get another one elected. Only in AMERICA.

It does raise the question of why would you vote for a democrat since the party as a whole is obvioiusly imcompetent at presidential elections. Heck the last dem in the white house was really a republican. I guess the Dems, being so diverse, can't create the sort of Party discipline that Repugs have - after all, just look at the two conventions. One looked like the US's actual population, the other a rich Houston Suburb.

[Ornamiviant]

Originally posted by rah
It does raise the question of why would you vote for a democrat since the party as a whole is obvioiusly imcompetent at presidential elections. For the same reason people vote Republican... herd mentality. You could put a (R) or a (D) on a piece of **** and it'd still get ~40% of the electorate. That's why we'll always have **** in office. (And why neither party has any incentive to actually excel, at most they only have to be less corrupt/evil/incompetent than the other guy, and that's at most... usually they just have to lie about it better.)