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First, the bird flu has to jump the species barrier... it ain't a big barrier, but still an if... don't eat chicken
Second, it would potentially kill as many as they suspect but that is only for those who don't treat themselves... think France a few years ago during that heat wave when they couldn't figure to stay cool and drink plenty of fluids Third, normal flu detection kits are able to discern the avian flu, despite A and B strands and hybrids Fourth, the strand for the bird flu has already been identify and a treatment is nearing the end of development This ain't SARS get over it |
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Japher, why are you telling me to get over it?
I see you on here a lot, but I don't pay a lot of attention towads you - are you the local forum *******? I don't know what the stars mean, I would assume jackass, but then that ain't censored. I'm saybing "get over it" because I don't know why you or anyone would freak out about birds getting sick after what I had said |
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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
There's just a lot of hysteria over the bird flu. Granted, there's nothing wrong with a bit of precaution, but fearmongering is a bad thing. The main point to remember is don't touch any wild birds, particularly their carcasses and droppings. As far as I can tell from the news, H5N1 (the nasty strain of the bird flu virus) isn't all the infectious. Here we collected over 200 dead birds in a week but only 5 or so of them were killed by the bird flu. And certainly there's no evidence of it mutating. Except for the people being diagnosed with it. |
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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
SARS was nothing. Malaria is way worse, killing millions each year. Yet most of us don't hear about it, full stop. SARS was more about a country being so inept and corrupt in its public health practices that threat of an epidemic originating from it became a worldwide concern. SARS served an important lessen. And thankfully, we have much more information about the bird flu than would be expected without SARS. But we covered this before, when you made the same inaccurate post. |
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Originally posted by DaShi
SARS was more about a country being so inept and corrupt in its public health practices that threat of an epidemic originating from it became a worldwide concern. Ah, yes. DaShi and his One Trick. You can almost hear the axe grinding, too. Note the use of such terms as "epidemic" and "worldwide cocern" that is an indication of hysteria on DaShi's part. Originally posted by DaShi But we covered this before, when you made the same inaccurate post. According to DaShi, that is. |
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Originally posted by Oerdin
This is a storm in a tea cup. Regular flu kills hundreds of thousands, bird flu has killed a handful in the entire world over its entire existance, but everyone only wants to bird flu. Leaving aside the fact that "everyone only wants to bird flu" makes it sound like a dance craze from the 60's ![]() This is very true. In fact, my wife just started working for the branch of the WHO that deals with immunization; measles, mumps, polio, japanese encephalitis, etc. These are diseases that are far more destructive than bird flu has proven to be or is likely to prove to be. They are also diseases that are devastating poor SE Asian countires right now. Yet money, personnel, and other resources for immunization have been cut at WHO in order to funnel them to bird flu. That's a real problem. |
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Originally posted by Oerdin
There is a difference between "Spanish flu" which was just regular flu with one mutation to make it more virolent and speculating about a virus which can only spread from birds will mutate into spreading among mammals. Please be honest enough to admit that. IIUC many scientist believe that many pandemics start when a flu virus circulating in a non-human species manages to spread from humans to humans. South China is often a starting point for pandemics (though NOT the Spanish flu, IIUC) due to humans, pigs and poultry living in close proximity - pigs being able to harbor both human and avian flues, and genetic interchange between the flu viruses taking place in the pig cells. But of course we dont KNOW that the bird flu will mutate to human to human transmission. But its certainly not a vanishingly small probability that it will. ANd if it does, it could well start a very dangerous pandemic. |
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