[Vobomei]

Friends and close associates of both Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are now convinced that, assuming she loses the race for the presidential nomination, she is probably going to fight to be the vice presidential nominee on an Obama-for-president ticket.

Duh. Thanks for nothing.

[NEWyear]

Originally posted by Wezil
I don't think she will. She wants top dog spot.

I'd guess she'd rather see Obama lose in '08 so she can try again in '12.

The calculation HC is making isn't what's best for America, it is what HC's ego demands. Couldn't they do a Blair-Brown type scenario and Hillary gracefully leave the race and accept an offer of VP in exchange for Obama not standing for a second term and endorsing her in '12?

[gfkasjhfg]

Originally posted by Starchild


Couldn't they do a Blair-Brown type scenario and Hillary gracefully leave the race and accept an offer of VP in exchange for Obama not standing for a second term and endorsing her in '12? They could, but Obama is a young man. After beating her for the nomination why would he agree to limit himself to one term?

[disappointment2]

So, what it boils down to is that instead of McCain winning what might be a tight race, he'll end up receiving it on a silver platter.
I'm not nearly the only one that would consider Obama, but want nothing to do with Hillary. Guess this makes for an easy decision now for people like me.
Kind of a shame.

[uniopaypamp]

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
Anyone who makes their choice based on the VP candidate isn't looking at the real issues. I think Cheney was a perfectly valid reason for not voting for Bush (if another reason was really necessary).

[Juersdodfs]

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
Anyone who makes their choice based on the VP candidate isn't looking at the real issues. Let's be honest, people who weren't going to vote for Obama if Hillary is the VP, weren't really going to vote for Obama in the end anyway. They just like saying they will and then end up going for McCain in the end.

[PhotoSHOPadob]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


Let's be honest, people who weren't going to vote for Obama if Hillary is the VP, weren't really going to vote for Obama in the end anyway. They just like saying they will and then end up going for McCain in the end. But that's not the issue. The issue is that disaffected conservative republicans who might sit out a McCain-Obama race will come out to vote against Hillary.

Obama needs to nominate a Clintonite; Ed Rendell, Wes Clark, and even Evan Bayh wold work. But he doesn't need Clinton.

And, frankly, if I were Hillary I'd be holding out for either Senate majority leader or SCOTUS, not veep.

[Pipindula]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


Let's be honest, people who weren't going to vote for Obama if Hillary is the VP, weren't really going to vote for Obama in the end anyway. They just like saying they will and then end up going for McCain in the end. That's what's called an assumption. In this case, your assumption is wrong.

[CenICrerflind]

People NOT blindly believing what a POTUS candidate says... now THAT would be a change.

[tussinelde]

Originally posted by Apocalypse

A. I think the Republicans will be energized enough.
B. Obama never had the theme of change to anyone mature. The other people stopped believing in his "change" when they heard about how he got to the state senate. The remaining people who believe in "change" really would just blindly believe anything. I've heard you repeat this a number of times but it doesn't get any less lame or laughable as it ages. "OMG! Obama found his opponent didn't have enough legal voters who signed his petition for candidacy so he's TEH EVIL!"

You know damn well any politician would object if the opposition tried to get on the ballot using signatures from other states. The whole point of a electing a local representative is to represent local people. The other person just got lazy and got caught; tough break for her.

[dgdhgjjgj]

Originally posted by DanS
If this story is true, I seriously question Hillary's sanity. VP is the shittiest job in this whole god-forsaken city. But it's a stepping stone to the most powerful jub in the world.

[masterboyz]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
That's what's called an assumption. In this case, your assumption is wrong. I doubt it. I don't think it'll be all too long after the Democratic Convention and when you start referring to Obama as a socialist.

[WFSdZuP3]

Originally posted by Zkribbler


But it's a stepping stone to the most powerful jub in the world. Just ask President Gore.

[pataagusata]

Originally posted by Zkribbler

But it's a poison needle away from the most powerful jub in the world. fixed.

[lagunaEl]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
WTG, Imran. Being consistently assuming. What you said indicates that you pay one bit of attention to anything I say. THere are so many wrong assumptions in your remark, I'm not going to bother addressing them. Think what you want. And I will. I think you are full of it. You've called for more moderate politicians socialists or commies before. When push comes to shove, you'll do it again.

[Keendwainge]

I didn't say it wouldn't be .

Though I hope Slow doesn't think that Bill Clinton was a lefty in his term of office, because Obama (or Bill's wife, really) makes him look like a Republican.

[Cyzkrahu]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I didn't say it wouldn't be .

Though I hope Slow doesn't think that Bill Clinton was a lefty in his term of office, because Obama (or Bill's wife, really) makes him look like a Republican.
Bill was a nothing. Unless Euopean rock star counts.
The biggest political disappointment in my life.

BTW, Imran, again, I've said this about Bill Clinton before. The only candidate that I really had hopes for, and let me down to the ground. He did nothing that I have positive memories about.

[zlopikanikanzax]

Al Gore is an idiot and Kerry is a liar. I don't consider them particularly liberal nor conservative.

[AntonioMQ]

A) He didn't do anything but NAFTA, which sucks. He allowed numerous terrorist atttacks with no response.
His being a dumbass about his whores is the least of his problems.

B) Anyone that says they invented the internet, that's all it takes. I realize the chance for a VP to shine is limited, but Big Al takes to a new low.

C) Certainly I do. You're trying to make me go for radical liberal or radical conservative. That's bullshit.
Actually, chickenshit.

[haittiweerved]

Even if Hillary is VP you know she's going to write in her own name.