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Excellent. I hope it continues. I'm dubious as to whether it will, and given the manifest incompetence of the Bush administration I think that's a reasonable viewpoint. Petraeus, however, has gained some measure of my trust.
-Arrian edit: as noted in the article, a decrease in violence is only part of the puzzle. However, it's an important part and the key one the US military was supposed to accomplish. The political stuff has to be done by the Iraqis themselves with, perhaps, some help from US diplos (ugh). |
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The once militants could take things a step further and join the political system. I they did so, they might even find themselves in an easier position to do what they've supposedly wanted all along: the US out of Iraq. Imagine instead of wasting time shedding blood, they peacefully take charge of the government and kick the US out? I would be ok with that result.
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And the political breakthroughs have just continued to roll in..Oh wait, the law about the distribution of oil is falling apart.....
But I am glad to know that the levels of violence in Iraq are now only terrible, down from horrible, which is down from horrific. Who knows, by the time Bush leaves, they might be all the way down to bad. |
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BTW the OP is completely retarded and the people who claim that a reduction of deaths in Sept-Oct had anything to do with the US are dreaming. EVERY year deaths decrease in Sept-Oct due to religious observations during the run up to Ramadan as well as the fact that the beginning of Ramadan normally happens during that time.
The OP doesn't cite a source or even an author but it is clear who ever wrote that is at best ignorant of life in a muslim country. "ATTACKS DECREASED DURING RAMADAN! THE SURGE HAS WORKED AS PLANNED" ![]() |
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
The OP doesn't cite a source or even an author but it is clear who ever wrote that is at best ignorant of life in a muslim country. WaPo editorial board. If you had bothered to even do a minimal research effort, you'd have known that. The poster has a responsibility to provide source info not the reader. I won't bother to look if the OP poster is to lazy to support his own side. |
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Originally posted by germanos
This is a completely retarded remark. Ramadan has no correlation whatsoever with the western calender. As the muslims use a lunar calander, the beginning of Ramadan typicly starts 11 days earlier every solar year. OK, I meant every year that the US has been in Iraq. Meaning from 2003-2007 or more specifically the years where there was an active insurgency 2004-2007. I was trying to show how every year we see a huge drop right before and during Ramadan while the OP tries to claim this is a result of the Administration's policies. Clearly that isn't so. |
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"ATTACKS DECREASED DURING RAMADAN! THE SURGE HAS WORKED AS PLANNED" Except, Oerdin, Ramadan has signaled a steep rise in Al Queda attacks ever year, which hasn't materialized this year, as the OP states. So it is not just the Sunni/Shia Iraqis who are too busy to kill each other, but also for some reason the foriegn fighters are too busy to take advantage of all the juice pilgramage targets.
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Given the way the war was sold in late 2002, I don't think "low" casualties heading into 2008 are really going to hurt the Dems. Eh, we will see. Assuming the trend continues, which is not certain at all, there will be some great soundbites of Pelosi and Reid. Hell, the Petreaus hearing itself is hours of political commercial gold.
If it lasts to Petreaus's next report, again not at all certain, it will be interesting to here the Congressional spin. |
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