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Old 08-28-2012, 11:48 AM   #1
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Default Who Rewrote the Bible? Dr. Lorraine Day on Spingola
Great 81 min comm. free podcast, mostly dealing with Dr. Day's new book, "Who Rewrote the Bible? How and Why The Translators Have Deceived the Whole World by Deliberately Changing the Truth of the Bible"

Some of the discussion of the first ~15 mins about the truth of many Bible characters, lost me coz I plead utter ignorance. But after that it gets lively until the end! Day is a historical revisionist, close friend of Ernst Zundel and other notable revisionists. So, WHO do you guess Day suggests rewrote the Bible?

Day's a cancer survivor, 75yo now and claims excellent health.

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The definition of the word Gospel is Good News! If the Gospel is, indeed, Good News, then it should easily be identifiable as such by both Christians and non-Christians. Unfortunately, the message of the churches – that some will be saved but most will be tortured in hellfire forever or at least for some period of time – is definitely not Good News. Therefore, a re-examination of what the Bible really teaches about the salvation of humanity is long overdue.


Obviously there has been some mistake somewhere, and it turns out that the translators are responsible, and pastors and Bible scholars are complicit in this travesty - partners in crime, if you will - by blindly embracing the erroneous translations.


If God tells us to LOVE our enemies, why is He going to DESTROY His enemies in hellfire?Can Satan do anything if God does not allow it? If God allows it, is it God’s will?Who is responsible for sin existing in this world? If the answer is Satan, then why didn’t God prevent it? Or is Satan equal with God?If Jesus was resurrected on Sunday, why aren’t the words “Sunday” or “first day of the week” found anywhere in any of the original manuscripts of the Bible?How is God going to “wipe away all your tears” if your loved ones are burning in hellfire?Why have the words “Jew” and “Gentile” been written into the Bible erroneously. (They aren’t found in the original Bible manuscripts.)
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Old 08-28-2012, 05:51 PM   #2
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I'm about halfway though. The good doctor mentions a list of reasons why people get cancer. She basically blames the folks who get cancer because of diet and stress they internalize. Does she ever explain how/why children die of cancer?
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Old 08-28-2012, 06:09 PM   #3
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I'll give this a listen to later but I already have a critism.

The following 2 points listed (below) are already erroneous. Why? Becuase there is NO SUCH THING as the "original manuscripts" Every "original" ever written is long gone. There are ONLY copies and translations available. So this woman is already trying to "con" the unlearned by implying something exists, which doesn't. There are various fragments, minuscules (cursives), and manuscripts (NOT "ORIGINALS) available but, I repeat, NO "Original manuscripts". She is being deceptive in using this phrase. This same phrase (repeated) and used in "Bible" schools for decades that have been inflitrated by Jesuits to introduce the Alexandrian school of thought that the "oldest and best" (meaning the Roman Catholic) manuscripts are closest to the "originals". Of course, this is shear unadulterated baloney.

If Jesus was resurrected on Sunday, why aren’t the words “Sunday” or “first day of the week” found anywhere in any of the original manuscripts of the Bible?
Why have the words “Jew” and “Gentile” been written into the Bible erroneously. (They aren’t found in the original Bible manuscripts.)
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:27 PM   #4
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Just one ? Who where the Jesuits.
Thanks for the link PatColo
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:23 AM   #5
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Just one ? Who where the Jesuits.
Thanks for the link PatColo
this guy's into the Jesuits being the top, with the rothschild zio's serving at their pleasure (their "accountants" )-- says the J's did the Biblical mal-translating:
Thread: Who Really Owns Your Gold, & the Planned Econ Meltdown

but he's really not religious the way Day is.

Thanks also to Streets of Gold; that "original manuscripts" question was one I want to learn more about.

I expect either of you can email Dr. Day with good questions based on her radio interview- tell her you're thinking about buying her book but first wondering...
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:24 PM   #6
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The first Jesuits were crypto-Jews. Ignatius Loyola himself was a crypto-Jew of the Occult Cabala. A crypto-Jew is a Jew who converts to another religion and outwardly embraces the new religion, while secretly maintaining Jewish practices. As John Torell explains: "In 1491 San Ignacio de Loyola was born in the Basque province of Guipuzcoa, Spain. His parents were Marranos and at the time of his birth the family was very wealthy. As a young man he became a member of the Jewish Illuminati order in Spain. As a cover for his crypto Jewish activities, he became very active as a Roman Catholic. On May 20, 1521 Ignatius (as he was now called) was wounded in a battle, and became a semi-cripple. Unable to succeed in the military and political arena, he started a quest for holiness and eventually ended up in Paris where he studied for the priesthood. In 1539 he had moved to Rome where he founded the "JESUIT ORDER," which was to become the most vile, bloody and persecuting order in the Roman Catholic Church. In 1540, the current Pope Paul III approved the order. At Loyola's death in 1556 there were more than 1000 members in the Jesuit order, located in a number of nations."

Ignatius of Loyola's secretary, Polanco, was of Jewish descent and was the only person present at Loyola's deathbed. James Lainez, who succeeded Loyola as the second Jesuit General, was also of Jewish descent. Jews were attracted to the Jesuit order and joined in large numbers. Lacunza was no exception. He was a Jew, which explains why he introduced the eschatological teaching of a return to the Jewish animal sacrifices during the Millennium. (In a book titled The Coming of the Messiah in Glory and Majesty published in 1812, 11 years after the death of its author, Jesuit Emanuel de Lacunza who, wrote under the fictitious pen name of a purportedly converted Jew, Rabbi Juan Josaphat Ben Ezra, in order to conceal his identity and to make his writings more palatable to the Protestant readers. He promoted the writings of sixteenth century Jesuit priest Francisco Ribera, developing a futuristic perspective which restricted the prophetic fulfillments in the book of Revelation to the end of the world). Lacunza also wrote that during a millennium after the tribulation the Jewish animal sacrifices would be reinstated along with the Eucharist (the mass) of the Catholic Church. Lacunza has followed after Jewish fables and replaced the commandments of God with the commandments of men. That doctrine gives the Jews primacy in God's plan and relegates Christians to a prophetic parenthetical to be supplanted by the Jews during the thousand year earthly reign of Christ.


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Old 08-29-2012, 10:39 PM   #7
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I reckon this could fit here, but one of my "white" customers brought me a gift today....and to my totally unsuspecting surprise

A "Complete Jewish Bible".

I just smiled and chuckled as she was trying to sell me on it.

Apparently she has been spending time with some rabbi and he's been explaining to her how "white people" stole the bible or something like that.

Didn't really know how to handle it. Just smiled and said thanks.
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Old 08-30-2012, 01:37 AM   #8
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Another site by Dr. Day: www.goodnewsaboutgod.com

fabulous summary

Thanks again PC for the direction to her.
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Old 08-30-2012, 01:40 AM   #9
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Old 08-30-2012, 01:57 AM   #10
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I'll give this a listen to later but I already have a critism.

The following 2 points listed (below) are already erroneous. Why? Becuase there is NO SUCH THING as the "original manuscripts" Every "original" ever written is long gone. There are ONLY copies and translations available. So this woman is already trying to "con" the unlearned by implying something exists, which doesn't. There are various fragments, minuscules (cursives), and manuscripts (NOT "ORIGINALS) available but, I repeat, NO "Original manuscripts". She is being deceptive in using this phrase. This same phrase (repeated) and used in "Bible" schools for decades that have been inflitrated by Jesuits to introduce the Alexandrian school of thought that the "oldest and best" (meaning the Roman Catholic) manuscripts are closest to the "originals". Of course, this is shear unadulterated baloney.

If Jesus was resurrected on Sunday, why aren’t the words “Sunday” or “first day of the week” found anywhere in any of the original manuscripts of the Bible?
Why have the words “Jew” and “Gentile” been written into the Bible erroneously. (They aren’t found in the original Bible manuscripts.)
um-um... you already try yo bias the audience.... allowing people to make up their own mind is essential... if there are NO oirginal manuscripts, then maybe should you/one be less assertive when one/you one refers to the bible

personally I dont care about the originals... I dont believe in copyrights anyway, everything belongs to the Universe and goes back to IT. All religious texts were written by man anyway
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Old 08-30-2012, 01:57 AM   #11
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Yes I had to write my own bible ..........

interpret what was interpreted by who wrote it ,then interpret from others that had their own interpretation so then you can form your own interpretation ,which for all intents and purposes is probably a little bit off.......after it goes through this process
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Old 08-30-2012, 02:21 AM   #12
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...and Skirnir cast out the doltish general with flying rocks, unto him saying "Go fornicate thyself".
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Old 09-01-2012, 02:08 PM   #13
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Yes I had to write my own bible ..........

interpret what was interpreted by who wrote it ,then interpret from others that had their own interpretation so then you can form your own interpretation ,which for all intents and purposes is probably a little bit off.......after it goes through this process
Good reply... theologians and scholars still have bright days ahead fighting... the best way to interpret texts/allegories is to have a solid scientific knowledge. Thats why organized religions regards sciences as a threat. It is easier to agree on maths than "perceptions". I do believe in christ consciousness and it is all there in the Bible, remove all fear factors to understand what Christ exactly meant.
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Old 09-01-2012, 02:48 PM   #14
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...the best way to interpret texts/allegories is to have a solid scientific knowledge.
It seems to me a working knowledge of earlier writings from the same source and the types/principles presented there are more important than latter day scientific opinions which if truly scientific are subject to revision.
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Old 09-01-2012, 04:56 PM   #15
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It seems to me a working knowledge of earlier writings from the same source and the types/principles presented there are more important than latter day scientific opinions which if truly scientific are subject to revision.
make sense to me... and I agree that we cant trust mainstream sciences/academia that much or at all. THOUGH, physicists like Walter Russel, have almost deciphered it all already, unfortunately their works are arent taught in high schools and colleges. I sincerely encourage anyone to read "the universal one" or "the secret of light"... it will blow your mind. Buckminster Fuller is also a great author in my view. Not to mention Viktor Schauberger and Wilhelm Reich, Tesla etc... I dont read mainstream scientific books anymore.
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Old 09-01-2012, 05:40 PM   #16
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The introduction and timeline creation of the New Testament along with adoption of the Old is congruent with TPTB manipulation.

Appreciate Day's words on the "search" for Truth, as it's already founded.
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:15 PM   #17
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Certain stories contained in the bible have been found carved into rock tablets of Sumeria, aspects of the biblical story are older than the bible. That is proven.

In the bible you have essentially a gatekeeper omitting certain parts of history for you, councils of rich men, TPTB of their day, sat around deciding what would and what would not make it into the bible....under the guise of some of it being true and some it being untrue...They were really just deciding how much of their original source to include.
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:43 PM   #18
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The following 2 points listed (below) are already erroneous. Why? Becuase there is NO SUCH THING as the "original manuscripts" Every "original" ever writ

If Jesus was resurrected on Sunday, why aren’t the words “Sunday” or “first day of the week” found anywhere in any of the original manuscripts of the Bible?
Why have the words “Jew” and “Gentile” been written into the Bible erroneously. (They aren’t found in the original Bible manuscripts.)
I'm just guessing; but maybe that the oldest surviving manuscripts are probably more reflective to the originals than what is around today, and she's going by that.
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:10 PM   #19
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Certain stories contained in the bible have been found carved into rock tablets of Sumeria, aspects of the biblical story are older than the bible. That is proven.
sumeria is very enlightening to say the least, the cradle of Mesopotamia.... religions have a lot more in common than many would think of. They all approach the subjects from different angles but the bottom line is still very similar.

In the bible you have essentially a gatekeeper omitting certain parts of history for you, councils of rich men, TPTB of their day, sat around deciding what would and what would not make it into the bible....under the guise of some of it being true and some it being untrue...They were really just deciding how much of their original source to include. 400 years to write the first bible.... says it all. The message is well diluted but still there.
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:12 PM   #20
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Yes I had to write my own bible ..........

interpret what was interpreted by who wrote it ,then interpret from others that had their own interpretation so then you can form your own interpretation ,which for all intents and purposes is probably a little bit off.......after it goes through this process
Wow! For a minute there, I thought I was reading a post by the Duck!
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