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Old 11-13-2005, 07:00 AM   #1
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Default America is not a Christian country!
In

a sermon of October 1831, Episcopalian minister Bird Wilson said,

Among all of our Presidents, from

Washington downward, not one was a professor of religion, at least not of more than Unitarianism.

The Bible?

Here is what our Founding Fathers wrote about Bible-based Christianity:

Thomas Jefferson:

I have

examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity

one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and

children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the

effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and

error all over the earth.
SIX HISTORIC AMERICANS,
by John E. Remsburg, letter to William Short
Jefferson

again:
Christianity...(has become) the most perverted system that ever shone on man. ...Rogueries, absurdities

and untruths were perpetrated upon the teachings of Jesus by a large band of dupes and importers led by Paul, the

first great corrupter of the teaching of Jesus.
More Jefferson:
The clergy converted the simple teachings of

Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind and adulterated by artificial constructions into a contrivance to filch

wealth and power to themselves...these clergy, in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ.
Jefferson's word for

the Bible?
Dunghill.
John Adams:
Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions,

Doctrines and Oaths, and whole carloads of other trumpery that we find religion encumbered with in these

days?
Also Adams:
The doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity.
Adams

signed the Treaty of Tripoli. Article 11 states:
The Government of the United States is not in any sense founded

on the Christian religion.
Here's Thomas Paine:
I would not dare to so dishonor my Creator God by attaching

His name to that book (the Bible).

Among the most detestable villains in history, you could not find one

worse than Moses. Here is an order, attributed to 'God' to butcher the boys, to massacre the mothers and to

debauch and rape the daughters. I would not dare so dishonor my Creator's name by (attaching) it to this filthy

book (the Bible).

It is the duty of every true Deist to vindicate the moral justice of God against the evils

of the Bible.

Accustom a people to believe that priests and clergy can forgive sins...and you will have sins

in abundance.

The Christian church has set up a religion of pomp and revenue in pretended imitation of a

person (Jesus) who lived a life of poverty.

Finally let's hear from James Madison:

What influence in

fact have Christian ecclesiastical establishments had on civil society? In many instances they have been upholding

the thrones of political tyranny. In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the liberties of the

people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty have found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just

government, instituted to secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy.

Madison objected to

state-supported chaplains in Congress and to the exemption of churches from taxation. He wrote:

Religion and

government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.

These founding fathers were a

reflection of the American population. Having escaped from the state-established religions of Europe, only 7% of the

people in the 13 colonies belonged to a church when the Declaration of Independence was signed.

Among those

who confuse Christianity with the founding of America, the rise of conservative Baptists is one of the more

interesting developments. The Baptists believed God's authority came from the people, not the priesthood, and they

had been persecuted for this belief. It was they—the Baptists—who were instrumental in securing the separation of

church and state. They knew you can not have a "one-way wall" that lets religion into government but that does not

let it out. They knew no religion is capable of handling political power without becoming corrupted by it. And,

perhaps, they knew it was Christ himself who first proposed the separation of church and state: Give unto Caesar

that which is Caesar's and unto the Lord that which is the Lord's.

In the last five years the Baptists have

been taken over by a fundamentalist faction that insists authority comes from the Bible and that the individual must

accept the interpretation of the Bible from a higher authority. These usurpers of the Baptist faith are those who

insist they should meddle in the affairs of the government and it is they who insist the government should meddle in

the beliefs of individuals.

The price of Liberty is constant vigilance. Religious fundamentalism and zealous

patriotism have always been the forces which require the greatest attention.
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