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Old 05-05-2006, 07:00 AM   #21
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Thfppppt!

When you get down from whatever you a high on now, please post again.

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Old 06-04-2006, 07:00 AM   #22
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HB makes a good point. In many households where there are servants girls as well as boys grow up without having to lift a finger, which does not equip them well for later life. In Europe/North America this is rarely the case, so most of us grew up having to do some chores from about the age of eight or nine, like making our own beds, tidying our rooms, helping in the kitchen, etc. so we do not consider these activities to be beneath us. I think that is also why people throw litter, the attitude is that there is always someone to clean up after you.

On the question of ordering in restaurants, it is not just the rule that ladies go first: in a group situation the person dealing with the waiter should ask everyone round the table what they want, before ordering, regardless of gender.

If I do have a gripe about Dominican social skills, it would be conversation skills. I have encountered this situation everywhere I have been, but I seem to come across it more here, across the social and educational spectrum. Very often people do not let you speak, and if you are allowed to it soon becomes clear that they are not listening. Some conversations are more like a series of parallel speeches where the speakers are only interested in listening to their own loud voices. I often have conversations where it ends up being at total cross purposes. This is not a language problem, my Spanish is 95% fluent, indeed I have heard the same complaint from non-Dominican, native Spanish speakers living in this country, like an Ecuadorian friend who sometimes felt she was speaking another language judging by the blank looks she would get from some people.

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Old 06-17-2006, 07:00 AM   #23
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I was watching TV this morning and even the Vice President, Milagros, didn't say thankyou when someone gave her a cup of coffee. She didn't even look at the person. Everyone else talking said thanks. But her NO! Are some people above being polite?
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Old 06-20-2006, 07:00 AM   #24
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Good points Jan and Timex

For Jan: Most of what you say is true for very un-educated people. In all my 4 decades + of good eating, nobody will get up from a table without saying"Buen provecho" to the other people. And nobody will come to the house at noontime without saying "Buen provecho" and then they will get the automatic response: "A buen tiempo" , and if they are hungry, they will sit down and eat. (At least at my house)

The use of "permiso" when passing between two people is normal and almost obligatory, unless the person is an animal. The lack of asking for "permiso" will be commented upon, and not nicely.

As far as table manners go, it sort of depends on just who you are eating with. Some do and some don't have manners, but there is a economic-social factor to be taken into consideration. this means that money does not breed manners but social position and money will probably have them.

And Jan? Honey, when you cross the street ALL traffic stops!!

As for lines? Well that has to be the #1 complaint I have, too. But, just like you all, I raise Cain and make snide comments until the person gets the idea and slinks away...

As for opening doors, I guess I have seen both ways, so it is probably a class thing again. Gumption versus no gumption.

As for clearing plates, I will guess that most of us have house servants, maids or cooks, whatever. Most middle or upper class families do. So to take a plate to the kitchen is unheard of. Now in the States or elsewhere servants have disappeared from, it's "fish or cut bait" as far as that goes. "When in Rome.....?"

And Chiri? I agree with you. One always orders for the ladies first, and then the men...way to go.

I don't know about the Spaniards being overbearing, but then again I am pretty much a home body. Around here, the seat of the Restoration Movement in 1865, I don't think it would go over very well.

Have a good day!

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Old 06-21-2006, 07:00 AM   #25
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There are some people in this world who expect to be treated well, and feel that they don't need to thank others for doing their job.
And others don't.
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Old 07-25-2006, 07:00 AM   #26
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Originally posted by pasha
[B]Americans and Canadians are generally about the politest people in either Old or New World.


Oh lord what the world has come to. I can't speak too much about Dominicans i've been living here for a few months so far Islanders are way more polite than Americans there's no questioning there, driving freaking sux here reminds me of Miami
they just can't drive period.
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Old 08-27-2006, 07:00 AM   #27
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Originally posted by pasha
At the risk of being skewered, this rings a familiar note re some of the DR1 threads....

Best, P
Unintentional, but true...

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Old 09-01-2006, 07:00 AM   #28
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psssssssst!

Now that I've got your attention!

Psssssssssst is common in other places, Mediterranean, Middle East as well as Latin America. I was a little bit embarrassed on one ocassion when one of my Venezuelan relatives on his first visit to England, decided to employ the technique to call the waitress over in an Oxford restaurant.

It IS rude, wherever you are.

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Old 09-13-2006, 07:00 AM   #29
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I posted this 2 days ago, as an O/T response on the DOMINICAN WORK ETHICS thread.

Something I have noticed almost every single place I have gone.

Get on line....
Bank.
Movie Theater.
Super Market.
Go up to the bar, to get a new drink, because you got tired of waiting.
Paying a Utility Bill.

The people servicing you are the slowest moving people on earth!!!!!

And every single time I'm standing there, somebody walks in, and goes right to the front of the line!!!!!! It never fails to happen.
The look on there face, Like it's their birth-right, that they should not wait in a line. And while they are waiting for the person, who is actually getting serviced, to finish, so they can jump up to be next, they are always the ones, who complain the loudest, about how long it's taking!!!!!!!!!

I just picture that person at their job, moving even slower than the person, they are bitching about!!!!!!

Anybody else notice this?????

Thanks
Tim H. Since it did not even get a comment, I thought maybe it was just me, but after reading the responses here, I'm glade to know, I'm not alone!!!!!!

Also, the most rudest people I have met on this island, were always from Spain, they treat Dominicans like they still own them!!!!!!!

Thanks
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:00 AM   #30
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I think it depends on the class of person you are dealing with. It seems as if the Dominicans I have met are either on one end of the spectrum or the other regarding manners with no in-between. I still cant get over how incredibly polite some people are. I cant tell you how many people have asked me to their house or have said "on your next trip please stay with us for a couple of nights". These same people tend to be extremely warm, generous and hospitable. Much more generous and hospitable than your average American. Then there seems to be a high percentage of the populace who never learned the first thing about manners. Forget holding doors for someone behind you or respecting lines. Dont expect to hear "Thank you" or "Please". Music blasting, yelling when someone is right next to you, etc... And I hate that "PSSSSSTTTTT..." when someone is trying to get your attention. In the United States, I feel that the majority of people have at least been TAUGHT some social ettiquite...whether Americans choose to apply it depends. With Dominicans however, it seems that they are either extremely well schooled in this area or not at all. Saying "Please" and "Thank You", at the very least, should come naturally.
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Old 09-24-2006, 07:00 AM   #31
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Are you questioning my post? Give me a few examples Iím an American as well I don't smoke not into drugs not even Presidente Beer have had the Privilege to travel through my expensive interior.

p/s: Shoot....
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Old 09-25-2006, 07:00 AM   #32
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Thanks, and welcome back, sweetie.

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