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Old 03-29-2012, 05:00 PM   #1
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Default Man arrested for reading Bible in public! Freedom of speech violation
i'm torn with this one. a blantant disregard for our right to freedom of speech. but i wouldn't want to stand in that line listening to him preach either. IMO, that's for church or if i seek you out for your witnessing. am i wrong in thinking this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FruQO8qaw9c



http://www.faith-freedom.com - A Christian man from Calvary Chapel Hemet was arrested for reading the Bible in public. His freedom of speech and religious liberty were violated.

Advocates for Faith and Freedom is a non profit law firm dedicated to protecting religious liberty in the courts.
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Old 03-29-2012, 05:05 PM   #2
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"Captive audience?"

I was not aware of that one...
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Old 03-29-2012, 05:06 PM   #3
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Acts 20:20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,

He's right, this is what happens in a country that hates God and hates the Bible
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Old 03-29-2012, 05:10 PM   #4
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i don't hate god. i don't hate christianity. i am a christian. i believe in and love god.

what happened to respect?
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Old 03-29-2012, 05:12 PM   #5
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I don't have time to watch the Youtube but was it in North Carolina? I ask because they used to have God Shouters on the corners of Winston-Salem yelling bible passages at the top of their lungs.
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Old 03-29-2012, 05:13 PM   #6
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Some quick searching about this one, the arrest took place in February 2011.

http://www.wnd.com/2011/04/292121/

“This is an abuse of power on the part of the CHP,” said Jennifer Monk, associate general counsel for Advocates. “The arresting officer could find no appropriate penal code to use when arresting these men. The purpose of the arrests appears to have been to censor them.

The organization reported that the men were released and prosecutors have not pursued any charges, and the federal lawsuit alleges violations of the men’s right to free speech and unlawful arrest. Interesting.
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Old 03-29-2012, 05:20 PM   #7
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I bet that cop was queer. He sounded pretty fruity.

The charge that they were obstructing business is ridiculous.

Time is short and such as that cop will find the last day of this world to be the beginning of a very uncomfortable existence.

The devil will be working overtime to clamp down on any reading of the word of God.
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Old 03-29-2012, 05:30 PM   #8
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I don't have time to watch the Youtube but was it in North Carolina? I ask because they used to have God Shouters on the corners of Winston-Salem yelling bible passages at the top of their lungs.
This was in Southern California. Hemet is a retirement community.
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Old 03-29-2012, 06:15 PM   #9
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I don't have time to watch the Youtube but was it in North Carolina? I ask because they used to have God Shouters on the corners of Winston-Salem yelling bible passages at the top of their lungs.
That would be a (street preacher). May as well use the correct termonology so you don't sound like an ignoramous.
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Old 03-29-2012, 06:27 PM   #10
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what's the difference?
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Old 03-29-2012, 08:05 PM   #11
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"What law was he breaking?"

*officer ignores them*

"Hey officer, I think you're breaking the law."


That did look surprisingly like a kidnapping.
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Old 03-29-2012, 08:16 PM   #12
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We are being poisoned by the food supply......Poisoned from the chemtrails in the air......They have fluoridated our water......They steal our money.....They brainwash our children.....They use coercion and force to rule over us......They unlawfully declare unconstitutional wars......They own and control the entire media, politicians, schools, police.......THEY SEND IN THEIR VULTURES TO EAT OUT OUR SUBSTANCE.


Somehow i dont see this guy speaking verses from the Bible to be all that big of a deal.

"I love America!.....As long as another citizen doesnt annoy me. Then i call the NKVD."


I also noticed he was reading from Romans......."Government is of the Lord."

PUKE.

A REAL preacher would tell you the truth: GOVERNMENT killed Jesus.
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Old 03-29-2012, 08:24 PM   #13
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i just think the whole situation stinks. it could have gone alot better.

if i were in the dmv line and i was annoyed or offended by the preacher, i would have respectfully asked the guy to leave. he has every right to be there. if the guy has any common courtesy he'd leave when asked by one of the patrons. according to the (edited) video, no one asked him except the security guard. that was the only warning i saw. then the (ignorant) cop just walks up and immediately arrests him. why couldn't he talk to him? maybe ask him to peacefully leave if anyone wants him to go. if no one in the line objected to him preaching, then he has a right to stay and preach. that cop showed up with a chip on his shoulder.
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Old 03-29-2012, 08:40 PM   #14
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This is exactly why God commands to kill the homos. This is exactly why t.h.e.y. want homos in the military.
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Old 03-29-2012, 08:47 PM   #15
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This is exactly why God commands to kill the homos. This is exactly why t.h.e.y. want homos in the military.
whoa! god commands to kill the homos?? where does it say that?

or are you being sarcastic?
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Old 03-29-2012, 08:58 PM   #16
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This is exactly why God commands to kill the homos. This is exactly why t.h.e.y. want homos in the military.
What does that have to do with this situation, at all? Please be a little more verbose. Your response seems very off topic, and it will take some more writing to bring us around and make the connection.



A better discussion would explore the concept of "private property" vs. "Public Property" and which the DMV falls under. Is private property which is owned by the state actually public land? Or not?
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Old 03-29-2012, 08:58 PM   #17
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whoa! god commands to kill the homos?? where does it say that?

or are you being sarcastic?
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:12 PM   #18
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What does that have to do with this situation, at all? Please be a little more verbose. Your response seems very off topic, and it will take some more writing to bring us around and make the connection.
Homos and dogs don't regard the God of our fathers.
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:26 PM   #19
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I wonder what would have happened if he was reading The Torah?
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:29 PM   #20
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Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Ezekiel 18:13 - Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him.
That is to say, anyone who handles an FRN should be put to death. Anyone with a bank account, same fate. Right? This probably includes your parents, right?



Back to the subject at hand, what does Leviticus 20:13 have to do with reading scripture in public? Or arrests? Or the argument of public vs private property?

I just saw your jahtruth post. Does this mean that you follow the old covenant? I don't get exactly what you are trying to say here? What does any of this have to do with a man being arrested? Did you even watch the video in the OP before commenting?

I'm trying to understand. Help me get there.
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