is this really barbatum? - DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate

**niemamczasu** · 03-28-2011, 03:19 PM

i thought they had green leaves
http://cgi.ebay.com/Paphiopedilum-ba...em2eb430 fb53

**adactthrd** · 03-28-2011, 03:56 PM

Heck no. Looks like a deperle type to me (delenatii by some cochlopetalum). Probably has liemianum due to the markings on the undersides of the leaves and tiger stripes on the bracts.

**Opinion_counts** · 03-28-2011, 05:23 PM

I agree with Ernie 100%.

Wasn't there a thread last fall/winter about a known orchid nursery advertising blatantly mislabelled plants on E-bay? Was it Hilltop Orchids? I seem to remember that they had a non-orchid person doing their E-bay stuff and the accuracy was dismal at best. If it was Hilltop, it's about time that they got things right! This auction is a rip-off!

**adactthrd** · 03-28-2011, 05:26 PM

Quote:

**onlyfun_biziness** · 03-29-2011, 03:33 AM

That plant has been up for a few weeks. I had a little email exchange with Darren, explaining how it was definitely not barbatum.... even though that cross is a barbatum cross, the plant itself is clearly a cochlopetalum hybrid. He replied basically that its the owner's call as to what is posted and how its labelled. He said he would discuss it with him. Apparently the owner wants to stick with that label, as it's been a few weeks since we discussed it.

**Annevecenqp** · 03-29-2011, 02:19 PM

Quote:

**niemamczasu** · 03-29-2011, 08:23 PM

i had a similar discussion.....

**emorbimefed** · 03-29-2011, 10:58 PM

Fail!

**Opinion_counts** · 03-30-2011, 05:35 AM

So, the owner's policy is: Let's just stay ignorant and perpetuate ignorance because that's how we've always been? That's a huge disservice to the entire orchid growing community!
BOYCOTT!

**onlyfun_biziness** · 03-30-2011, 06:03 AM

I invited Darrell to post here and get some opinions on the plant, but he didn't feel like posting here again. He was certainly open to discussion with me about it. The thing is, he posted links to photos of barbatum flowers...and anyone can see by looking at the pictures that this plant has to be a different from barbatum. I get the impression from him that the owner just doesn't want to be bothered with internet or ebay. He wants to sell plants, but has no interest in the techniques of selling plants online.

**hacyOrgachbic** · 03-30-2011, 06:46 AM

The plant itself looks like it may have a Parvisepalum like Malipoense rather than delenatii.

**adactthrd** · 03-30-2011, 03:58 PM

Quote:

**draigenia** · 03-30-2011, 08:15 PM

the old saying is quite appropriate - you can lead a horse to water but can't make them drink!
We tried, seemed they cared to a point, well not anymore!
Makes me wonder - have they sold anything?

**Opinion_counts** · 04-01-2011, 06:48 AM

Quote:

03-28-2011, 03:19 PM	#1
niemamczasu Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 440 Senior Member	is this really barbatum? i thought they had green leaves http://cgi.ebay.com/Paphiopedilum-ba...em2eb430 fb53 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
	Quote

03-28-2011, 03:56 PM	#2
adactthrd Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 434 Senior Member	Heck no. Looks like a deperle type to me (delenatii by some cochlopetalum). Probably has liemianum due to the markings on the undersides of the leaves and tiger stripes on the bracts. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
	Quote

03-28-2011, 05:23 PM	#3
Opinion_counts Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 643 Senior Member	I agree with Ernie 100%. Wasn't there a thread last fall/winter about a known orchid nursery advertising blatantly mislabelled plants on E-bay? Was it Hilltop Orchids? I seem to remember that they had a non-orchid person doing their E-bay stuff and the accuracy was dismal at best. If it was Hilltop, it's about time that they got things right! This auction is a rip-off! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
	Quote

03-28-2011, 05:26 PM	#4
adactthrd Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 434 Senior Member	Quote: Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
	Quote

03-29-2011, 03:33 AM	#5
onlyfun_biziness Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 558 Senior Member	That plant has been up for a few weeks. I had a little email exchange with Darren, explaining how it was definitely not barbatum.... even though that cross is a barbatum cross, the plant itself is clearly a cochlopetalum hybrid. He replied basically that its the owner's call as to what is posted and how its labelled. He said he would discuss it with him. Apparently the owner wants to stick with that label, as it's been a few weeks since we discussed it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
	Quote

03-29-2011, 02:19 PM	#6
Annevecenqp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 354 Senior Member	Quote: Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
	Quote

03-29-2011, 08:23 PM	#7
niemamczasu Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 440 Senior Member	i had a similar discussion..... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
	Quote

03-29-2011, 10:58 PM	#8
emorbimefed Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 443 Senior Member	Fail! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
	Quote

03-30-2011, 05:35 AM	#9
Opinion_counts Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 643 Senior Member	So, the owner's policy is: Let's just stay ignorant and perpetuate ignorance because that's how we've always been? That's a huge disservice to the entire orchid growing community! BOYCOTT! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
	Quote

03-30-2011, 06:03 AM	#10
onlyfun_biziness Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 558 Senior Member	I invited Darrell to post here and get some opinions on the plant, but he didn't feel like posting here again. He was certainly open to discussion with me about it. The thing is, he posted links to photos of barbatum flowers...and anyone can see by looking at the pictures that this plant has to be a different from barbatum. I get the impression from him that the owner just doesn't want to be bothered with internet or ebay. He wants to sell plants, but has no interest in the techniques of selling plants online. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
	Quote

03-30-2011, 06:46 AM	#11
hacyOrgachbic Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 588 Senior Member	The plant itself looks like it may have a Parvisepalum like Malipoense rather than delenatii. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
	Quote

03-30-2011, 03:58 PM	#12
adactthrd Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 434 Senior Member	Quote: Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
	Quote

03-30-2011, 08:15 PM	#13
draigenia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 534 Senior Member	the old saying is quite appropriate - you can lead a horse to water but can't make them drink! We tried, seemed they cared to a point, well not anymore! Makes me wonder - have they sold anything? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
	Quote

04-01-2011, 06:48 AM	#14
Opinion_counts Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 643 Senior Member	Quote: Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
	Quote

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)