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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
It's a tiny, rather insignificant piece of land that Lebanon and Syria both claim is Lebanese and Israel claims is Syrian, which Israel captured in the 6 Day War. Basically, Syria wanted an excuse to keep Hezbollah from having to disarm so they fabricated false maps in an attempt to "prove" Israel hadn't completely withdrew. The UN looked at the maps and the UN's experts concluded that they were completely doctored and that historic maps in the UN's own archives (something like 16 different maps from different historic periods) all showed the Shabaa Farms not being part of Lebanon. |
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I personally don't care who the damned farms belong to. They aren't worth 1,300 Lebanese and Israeli lives, are they? You mistake me explaining something for me agreeing with it. I have little doubt that if the govt of Lebanon offered to recognize Israel, and completely disarm Hezb, that Israel would be happy to give them Shabaa Farms. Let them make the offer tomorrow. |
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I personally don't care who the damned farms belong to. They aren't worth 1,300 Lebanese and Israeli lives, are they? Nothing is worth 1,300 lives. Too bad Hezbullah is willing to risk that much violence, for cheap ass provocations. You mistake me explaining something for me agreeing with it. Thank you ever so much for explaining Hezbullah's excuses. Previously it did not make sense to me, but now you've solved the mystery. Now that I know what they are talking about, I can do a better job of proving them wrong. |
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![]() As for Sheeba Farms, no one disputes that they are not Israeli land, so Israel is occupying it. The question is, are they ocupying Syrian land or Lebanese land. The Lebanese have never stopped claiming that its their land. Of all people it was LoTM that perovided a nice link showing that lebanon has always claimed the Sheeba farms as theirs. The issue is that Syria took the land and occupied itself and claimed it was theirs, and the maps were drawn with the Syrian claim on the books. NOw, for its own purposes Syria agrees with the Lebanese claim, without actually surrendering their counterclaim to the land. So the ones playing a game here are the Syrians, who had the maps made to satisfy their earlier claims to the land, but since the Israelis occupy it now and are doing nothing fast to stop occupying it, it serves their purposes to "accept" the Lebanese claim without ever having to actually do anything about it. |
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Originally posted by Whoha
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects...?itemNo=758531 "As police began to arrive, the terrorists took Danny and Einat down to the beach. There, according to eyewitnesses, one of them shot Danny in front of Einat so that his death would be the last sight she would ever see. Then he smashed my little girl's skull in against a rock with his rifle butt. That terrorist was Samir Kuntar." And I believe they had a trial in which Kuntar was found guilty. If the people they hold are terrorist, then they should be tried, after all, israel would only be holding them if they had the goods. As opposed to administrative imprisonment, in which Israel just puts people in prison and never gives them a trial...wait, that is mostly what they do. |
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