[realnilkless]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11818005

Oh dear... [shocked]

At least 2 dead and over dozen injured.

Read more here:

"0,0001mm is enough!"
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/nati...12800315F.HTML
"South Korea may strike N.Korea missile base"
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news...013200315.HTML

[Mearticbaibre]

WWIII is coming, 2012 around the corner, the end is nigh!

[wmtravelservice]

****'s hit the fan.

[medio]

Well, the North can't try and wriggle out of responsability now - damned idiots!

[wmtravelservice]

Well, the North can't try and wriggle out of responsability now - damned idiots!

They're saying south attacked first. Going to be a bitch fight for a few weeks; US will try and get China on its side and then go in and fight a 3rd war it can't win.

[realnilkless]

added more news...[surrender]

Going to be a bitch fight for a few weeks; US will try and get China on its side and then go in and fight a 3rd war it can't win.

Yep... US is in a hardspot at the moment. China has leaned more and more towards N.Korea lately.
And making China as your enemy isn't going to be an option.

[inchaaruutaa]

or, like always, everyone will go "Oh no, thats really mean... please stop it you two" South Korea will make some meaningless posturing "Oh we'll respond with terrible force" Nothing will happen, this'll be forgotten about by the end of this month at the latest.

South Korea has too much to lose by actually going back to war and North Korea doesn't exactly give a **** but knows it won't get attacked because it'll be able to beat the crap out of Seoul before they get stopped - I'm sure the North just does this for shits and giggles

[fuesquemill]

WWIII is coming, 2012 around the corner, the end is nigh!

Us English peeps have to have the Olympics first.


Damn you fate.[cursing]

[neirty]

Us English peeps have to have the Olympics first.


Damn you fate.[cursing]

No this is a good thing, if WW3 can cancel the Olympics then the world won't see just how shltty East London is and how crap we are at organising world events [thumbup]

[nerkvcbtre]

added more news...[surrender]

Yep... US is in a hardspot at the moment. China has leaned more and more towards N.Korea lately.
And making China as your enemy isn't going to be an option.

Im pretty sure our vastly superior Navy is available to bomb the country further into a stone age. A ground war is a completely other story. Push comes to shove China will do nothing, it is better have a US that purchases everything from them than a tiny little pain in the ass NK.

[Figelac]

Im pretty sure our vastly superior Navy is available to bomb the country further into a stone age. A ground war is a completely other story. Push comes to shove China will do nothing, it is better have a US that purchases everything than from them than a tiny little pain in the ass NK.

Not really. The millions of landmines in the DMZ means NK can't leverage its numerical advantage, and for that to really matter, there would need to be some sort of soldier for soldier, vehicle for vehicle parity between the two sides, and there isn't. And if they use their handful of nuclear weapons or their chemical weapons to even the scale, the US can turn the country into a cinder.


Still, some sad **** here. Maybe they should just get it over with, sooner rather than later before China decides it will get directly involved in a shooting war.[no]

[geniusxs81]

So,

Who will be backing up the North?
Who will be backing up the South.

Someone car to elaborate in what the likely situation is in today's world (I only know the history back then, times have changed)

[wmtravelservice]

So,

Who will be backing up the North?
Who will be backing up the South.

Someone car to elaborate in what the likely situation is in today's world (I only know the history back then, times have changed)

Noone will back the North; the only real issue is China will be pissed off.

[Figelac]

So,

Who will be backing up the North?
Who will be backing up the South.

NK will get support from any other tinpot dictatorships that think they can get away with it (Iran, ect), but that won't amount to anything but a news line, and China's national facepalm will be heard around the world.

US will back SK militarily, everybody else will give hugs and food/humanitarian supplies. Russia will probably do the same as China since they don't care.

[LeviBrawn]

This North Korea aggression is getting annoying already, they really are asking for war on their doorstep aren't they.

[Xxedxevh]

Not really. The millions of landmines in the DMZ means NK can't leverage its numerical advantage, and for that to really matter, there would need to be some sort of soldier for soldier, vehicle for vehicle parity between the two sides, and there isn't. And if they use their handful of nuclear weapons or their chemical weapons to even the scale, the US can turn the country into a cinder.


Still, some sad **** here. Maybe they should just get it over with, sooner rather than later before China decides it will get directly involved in a shooting war.[no]

The North's "might" is how many tubes of artillery and rockets/missiles they have pointed towards the South. They don't need to cross the DMZ to lay waste to the South. Plus, for decades they have been digging tunnels of all sizes underneath the DMZ... The South has found some, but the question is how many they haven't.

As for China not getting involved if there's a shooting war? Well, they have before on the Korean Peninsula. Had the US not pushed so close to the Chinese border during the Korean War, all of this crap over the years would have never happened. Sixty years ago, they didn't like the idea of having a democratic state on their border... and little has changed. [no]

[emexiagog]

As for China not getting involved if there's a shooting war? Well, they have before on the Korean Peninsula. Had the US not pushed so close to the Chinese border during the Korean War, all of this crap over the years would have never happened. Sixty years ago, they didn't like the idea of having a democratic state on their border... and little has changed. [no]

That's exactly the culprit here.
The last thing China wants are US troops at their border. NK is a nice little buffer.

[Figelac]

The North's "might" is how many tubes of artillery and rockets/missiles they have pointed towards the South. They don't need to cross the DMZ to lay waste to the South. Plus, for decades they have been digging tunnels of all sizes underneath the DMZ... The South has found some, but the question is how many they haven't.

With conventional munitions? I doubt their artillery would last more than a couple hours against the SK and US artillery and air power, and that's not time enough to devastate the country. Could probably kill a lot of civilians, but a nuke hitting Seoul would do that too, but with a tenfold increase in death and destruction. Don't know about the mineshaft... err tunnel gap, but in the decades we've been finding them, I'd hope 'we' have come up with a plan to destroy tunnels we don't know about before a war as soon as soldiers start coming out.

[gogFloark]

With conventional munitions? I doubt their artillery would last more than a couple hours against the SK and US artillery and air power, and that's not time enough to devastate the country. Could probably kill a lot of civilians, but a nuke hitting Seoul would do that too, but with a tenfold increase in death and destruction. Don't know about the mineshaft... err tunnel gap, but in the decades we've been finding them, I'd hope 'we' have come up with a plan to destroy tunnels we don't know about before a war as soon as soldiers start coming out.

I don't think you understand just how much artillery they actually have pointed at Seoul. Their entire survival strategy is holding Seoul hostage. The US would have bombed that elvis impersonator a decade ago otherwise.

[Xxedxevh]

I don't think you understand just how much artillery they actually have pointed at Seoul. Their entire survival strategy is holding Seoul hostage. The US would have bombed that elvis impersonator a decade ago otherwise.

And let's not forget they have made it very clear that they consider chemical and biological weapons (which they possess both of) as regular munitions.

NK has as many tanks as SK has both tanks and APCs... And more APCs than SK. While they may be older and not as lethal as newer models, let us not forget how the Allies fought the Panzers and Tigers; with swarms of Shermans.

As far as artillery? They have over 8000 towed/self-propelled tubes, 7500 mortars and 2500 multiple launch rocket systems... SK has only 10,500 artillery pieces combined. And let us not forget their longer range missiles!

Their air force may be old and rickety, but they have more helicopters than SK has planes... And 3x the number of planes. Swarm applies here as well...

But we have superior airpower, right? Well, they have over 11,000 pieces of antiaircraft weaponry.

Regardless of who'd ultimately win, they'd lay waste to the entire peninsula in the process. Lord only knows where their nuclear program stands, and China would have to be taken into consideration. Think about it... all NK has focused on, PERIOD, since the last Korean War ended is the NEXT Korean War!

Aside from a democracy knocking on their doorstep, it'd provide a land-based retaliation point we currently do not have should they ever be insane enough to attempt retaking Taiwan. With China testing ballistic missiles designed to take out carriers and amphibious launch ships, they're doing what they can to make it very clear not to come too close; and keep any response from the world @ arm's length.