[bobibnoxx]

If you can find any way, do what you want, not what your family wants.

Can't you get a small job just to continue studies, not full 5days/8hrs?

/my xx cents.

[Helloheshess]

Be your own man; continue on your own path. Working in a field you hate will only make you even more bitter.

You don't need to be enrolled in classes to maintain your skills. But some effort would b e required. If you feel strongly about this, you have to put your money where your mouth is.

If you can find a compromise position as Snoopy suggests, great.

Good luck!

[Galinastva]

Originally posted by BeBro
If you can find any way, do what you want, not what your family wants.

Can't you get a small job just to continue studies, not full 5days/8hrs?

/my xx cents.
I don't know, maybe I could get a job that for 20 h a week that would pay me enough to pay the rent and eat (something like 400 eur a month), the real problem is my skillset, with no diploma and I only have experience in silly jobs (things like telemarketing and working at walmart)

[videolkif]

making your own decisions >> doing a silly job for a while

[Theateetetuig]

Most people (at least in the States) have had their share of "silly jobs" while attending college. This is a non-issue.

[kanchouska]

Originally posted by DanS
Most people (at least in the States) have had their share of "silly jobs" while attending college. This is a non-issue. Well yes, I had those too, but never as a means to support myself, I mean normally they could but trying to attend college at the same time...


I think you don't realize how many expenses going to college completely on your own entails.

[Plaumpholavup]

Also I think you missed the bit about me loosing my skills.


I think you don't appreciate how horrifying something like advanced physics can seem to someone who knows he understood the math before and did rather well but is now suddenly stuck with only a high schoolish level of understanding.



The time investment needed for me to be able to pass this year is considerable.

[Ad0i89Od]

Well, a few more details would be necessary to make an informed decision. What is it that you are capable of doing, and what is it that your family wants you to do? Of course, I understand if you don't want to answer.

[ethigSmimbine]

Originally posted by Heraclitus


People can do advanced quantum mechanics in their head while their body digs trenches?


That just made me feel very dumb. Well, maybe not. But a job that will require a lot of brainpower will certainly drain your recources in the spare time you have besides the job.

And digging trenches might be a bit too much of phisical labour. I was more thinking of working on a production line or something. Simple work that will allow your mind to wander off to greener pastures.

[fedelwfget]

Originally posted by Timexwatch
Can you just go on the dole like most EuroComs "the dole"

English idiom ?
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does not compute

[diemeareendup]

Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia
I first read that word as "entrails" and was confused for a second.

But yes, Heraclitus, I'd say that at this point you have to decide for yourself. We're not close enough to the rift or the facts of your livelihood to tell you with any degree of authority.

For all the paths you put forth, there's going to be a valid positive and a valid negative. Say you go along with what your father demands. The immediate view will be that you caved in under pressure and that you let somebody else tell you what to do. But it's possible that in time you might change your mind and independently come to agree with him in your own right. If this happens (and it did happen to me with my parents) then your act of acceding will save you a lot of time and the best years of your life. Had I listened to my parents years ago and gone into law instead of journalism, I would have saved myself a lot of heartache, poverty, and wasted years... and I would have ended up in the same line of work as I'm in now.

Who's to say that this rosy outcome will happen? Not me, that's for sure. Only you know best.

On the flip side, there are things that it may be worth being uncompromising about. I've been there too. Using family issues as an example, I've grown quite frank with my parents about ways that they can and cannot talk to me. My father used to be a traditional Chinese father, expecting a great deal of deference and obedience - and he'd be willing to back this up with verbal abuse. I put up with this as a kid because I was too young to really state my own stance and to scope out my own boundaries. But starting from my 23rd year I had enough geographical distance from him to say to him "You can't keep doing this and expect me to still be part of your life."

His email communications have become much more moderate, and despite a few clashes in face-to-face communications, I think we're making progress.

I'm sorry I can't give you any better guidance than this. There are times to hold fast to your ideals when it really is completely subjective (such as what type of relationship with your family is acceptable to you). But there are times when objective factors do come into it, and in those times it can be quite dangerous to let nothing but abstract ideals guide you.



Specifically, it seems you're looking proactively into other sources of funding. Can you take out any student loans? These are generally a low-priority unsecured debt, so once you're making an income you can generally pay them off at a manageable schedule.

I would counsel that you make absolutely sure you can survive the fall, before you sever yourself from the family. There is a fine line between bravery and foolhardiness, and sometimes the only difference is in the preparations. Thanks for the advice AC.

[gymnAnemoe]

Originally posted by Heraclitus
I think you don't realize how many expenses going to college completely on your own entails. I don't think you know what experiences others have had. Your tuition is paid for, correct?

[Pipindula]

Originally posted by Heraclitus


People can do advanced quantum mechanics in their head while their body digs trenches?
Ok, practice your "Would you like fries or some of Dyson Lectures with your Big Mac?".

[Gubocang]

Listen to your dad and continue as a tamed and broken man.

[onelovemp]

Originally posted by DanS
Most people (at least in the States) have had their share of "silly jobs" while attending college. This is a non-issue. Bear in mind that the university system is Europe is often different.

It's often not credit-based, but year-based, which means you can't just take less credits and graduate in, say, 5 years instead of 3.

[JeorgeNoxeref]

Slovenians reproduce asexually.

[Zvmwissq]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Why not? A woman will eventually do it to him. Might as well get a headstart. Now that's wisdom.

[Kotyara]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
Bear in mind that the university system is Europe is often different.

It's often not credit-based, but year-based, which means you can't just take less credits and graduate in, say, 5 years instead of 3. So what? He should be able to take a full load and still work 20 hours a week in order to put bread on the table.

[DongoSab]

Well, Hera. I don't know you or your family very well. And I'm in the dark as to the particulars of your situation, but I'll tell you what you should do.

Buy that car. Don't worry about what other people think. Sure, you're wife will nag at you for it. But she's been doing that for years. And after putting up with all her nonsense and the two ungrateful little brats she farted out, you deserve something that will make you happy for once. Buy it and don't look back.

[namaikaimvputka]

Originally posted by DanS


So what? He should be able to take a full load and still work 20 hours a week in order to put bread on the table. He lives in Slovenia... not sure a 20h/week load would bring him enough. In any case, he's the one knowing.