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Old 11-12-2007, 07:21 PM   #1
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Default What would you do in this situation? (if you were president)
barnabas sighting

and it would depend on my relations with the foreign company/country.
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:27 PM   #2
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It depends on the pollution. If it is an unacceptable pollution level, I would initially object, and if my objections were not taken into consideration, I would go to the world court. If that didn't work, I'd probably try economic tariffs as much as is possible.

If I were the actual president, it's quite possible I'd go the tariff route first, unless I was very confident the world court would support me.

My demands would be that the pollution not exceed normal acceptable levels in that river; and that the company make efforts to clean the pollution up within reason.
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:31 PM   #3
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I think Barnabas is trying to control for some of that, by asking what you would do as president of X (realistically) rather than what "should" happen. Genocide ain't an option

What I think should happen is exactly what you do though (they should be required to limit their pollution to reasonable levels). The problem here is that they likely chose this country because of their lax laws on the matter...
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:41 PM   #4
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Originally posted by VetLegion
Paraguay and Brasil? Uruguay and Argentina? Show your cards!

Anyway, it's a typical problem of externalities. The polluter should be forced to pay the full costs of his operation, meaning not only raw materials but also expenses incurred by those downstream because of the extra pollution.

Factories which aren't profitable when all costs are considered shouldn't operate.

The president of the big country should threaten genocide in order to get the project to stop. Argentina and Uruguay, the company is the finnish Botnia, the factory a paper pulp factory.


Today the company said : If the wind is strong, a scent like the one of "boiled cauliflower" may be felt in neighbouring cities. They said it should stop in a few days, when they get all their filters working, but, who knows.


What makes this issue controversial is that the cities on the argentine side of the river live of tourism.
Anyway, the factory started working a few days ago, and the level of pollution is still not clear
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:49 PM   #5
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Blast them. They're taking up needed space that could be utilized for parking.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:01 PM   #6
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Send spies to sabotage the factory?
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:16 PM   #7
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Demand that teh pollution stay in country Y's half of teh river
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:16 PM   #8
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Demand money from Company whatever for using half of your river for sewage?
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:28 PM   #9
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oh yes, and for that loaner, get some rights, like inspections, how the environmental money loan is spent etc... so that there is some shared responsibility about the project...

if all else fails you can always bomb the environmental aggressor , there be more cause for preemptive action than in Iraq
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:03 PM   #10
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ask them to remove said factory or clean up the river to acceptable levels...

if all else fails.. war

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Old 11-12-2007, 09:10 PM   #11
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Originally posted by Barnabas


Argentina and Uruguay, the company is the finnish Botnia, the factory a paper pulp factory. Damn, X-stinkied.
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:04 AM   #12
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Bomb them!

And then steal their oil.
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:13 AM   #13
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This reminds me of SimCity, where it's always best to build the high-polluting buildings at the edge (or even better, the corner) of the map so that 1/2-3/4 of the pollution disappears into the next city over
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