[SM9WI8oI]

i constantly hear people say,"New York is so five years ago". Personally, i feel that New York has lost it's appeal for some reason. maybe it's oversaturation, but i know it's been the 'it' place before i became interested in it. nowadays it seems chicago, miami, the south, and even phili has taken it's place. what are your thoughts?

[HaseBeceDeemy]

Record year for tourism in 2005

Another record projected for 2006

[qp0yfHOf]

Record year for tourism in 2005

Another record projected for 2006

thanks, but i even see a shift from cost of living to people migrating in large numbers to other areas. of course, at the moment it will have record tourism, but it's future is the question. how do you think nyc residents and future potential residents will react to the cost of living, because i've heard swaying opinions mainly due to that issue? after graduation, nyc is on my list but i'm unsure now...i'm considering chicago, nyc, phili, or miami. what's it's future like, and how will the cost of living play into it?

[AutocadOemM]

Your first post suggested a cultural falling off.
Recently, i constantly hear people say,"New York is so five years ago". Now it's cost of living.

New York was expensive 5 years ago. It was expensive 25 years ago. Demographic shifts have been a constant throughout its history.

You will find several threads on NY population, cost-of-living, etc in "NYC Guide for New Yorkers."

[Rinkeliacasse]

What is also happening in New York City is a reawakening and rediscovery of the Boroughs. Manhattan still is centerstage, but the arts and music scenes have moved to Brooklyn. The Bronx seems the next outpost. The Brooklyn and Queens waterfront are being transformed. A new cruise shipo terminal has opened in Brooklyn. The Fulton fishmarket moved to the Bronx. It has been a reshuffling of the city in many ways - all for the better. The city is undergoing its largest residential construction boom in decades. We have two huge new transportation terminal in Manhattan under construction. Two new modern facilities were just completed in Brooklyn and an intermodal hub completed in Queens. We have two state-of-the-art ferry terminals. Our unemployment figures are lower than the national average. Our salaries are higher than the national average. New York is probably so five minutes ago for people who want to live here and can't do it for financial reasons or who just lack the guts.

[avaiptutt]

Your first post suggested a cultural falling off.
Now it's cost of living.

New York was expensive 5 years ago. It was expensive 25 years ago. Demographic shifts have been a constant throughout its history.

You will find several threads on NY population, cost-of-living, etc in "NYC Guide for New Yorkers."

i have a lot of questions about nyc. i'm not trying to debate you and i'm not critizing nyc. just asking questions, and the cost of living was one of the problems people seem to have with nyc. obviously not just out of towners because new yorkers are relocating. thanks for the responses.

[crazuMovies]

also, i'm new to this forum. is there a way i can see who's viewing a thread?

[Pa33anger]

Whose?

[PetrZimin]

I found the “so 5 years ago” comment interesting. I’ve had the opportunity to visit several cities/districts both at the time that the self-appointed style gurus were saying “go. There. NOW” and the proverbial five years alter. In most cases, what I found was that, for a casual visitor, like myself. They were actually much more interesting ‘5 years alter’ once they filled out with more bars/restaurants/shops, etc. They usually spruced up, too. In their original “unspoilt” or “on the cusp” state, they were largely derelict and not that much fun. I suppose if you were a real “insider” to the local subculture they might be interesting, but as an outside visitor... often disappointing.

Obviously NYC was never “out”, but just looking at, say, Tribeca now, it’s not exactly heaving with tourists, is it? There are still dozens of buildings that could sue some work. I can only imagine it 10 years ago. It must have been nearly deserted…

My point is: what suits the avant-garde 0.1% is not what suits the “advanced” 2.9% and definitely not the “aspirational” 7%...then you have the remaining 90%....

[mealiusarses]

thanks luca..what do you think the exorbitant cost of living in nyc will entail for the city's future seeing as nyers and future nyers are already becoming sour? from my personal experience i hear from nyers, "don't move to ny, ny will make you or break you with the cost of living and the transportation" etc. i take what you'll are saying into consideration, but i just want all sides. some people seem to want to defend nyc instead of having a colloquial discussion.

[Gymnarnemia]

Thank you for that insulting remark.

I was not debating you. In fact, I anticipated that you had "a lot of questions about nyc", and directed you to the proper forum, where maybe you would have used the Search function, and did a little research before asking questions.

If you are trying to bait me into an argument, you're not going to be around here very long.

[Appenianags]

Washington: you have to consider your own personal situation. Will NYC offer possibilities for employment that you won´t get elsewhere? Do you have a job waiting for you? Are you alone? Do you have children? How´s your bank account? Can you buy...will you rent?

It´s not that hard to put 2 and 2 together.

If you´re worried that NYC is "so 5 years ago".... you might want to try Butte Montana.... and be an urban pioneer.

[FelikTen]

Thank you for that insulting remark.

I was not debating you. In fact, I anticipated that you had "a lot of questions about nyc", and directed you to the proper forum, where maybe you would have used the Search function, and did a little research before asking questions.

If you are trying to bait me into an argument, you're not going to be around here very long.

i think we can say we got off on a bad foot. i apologize for what could be in any way perceived as an insult, but my intentions weren't to insult you. rather that remark was directed at fabrazio because he corrected me on a small typo. i have nothing against anyone, i just thought people were getting defensive. now since that is clear, the other question was will high cost incite a migration from nyc but fabrizio covered it. i don't think nyc is a place for people fresh out of college unless you have a job. me becoming an investment banker or something in that field, i don't want to waste my money on unnecessary things so chicago or phili are reasonable locations.

[Bridgester]

Washington: the correction had nothing to do with me be "defensive".... we all make typos and have problems with spelling and word usage... but do you really think a first time poster will get much respect with such in-your-face sloppy grammar and spelling?

"Would you think NYC has fell off"....and down hill from there.....

[alecoplesosse]

Whose?

Wrong, Fabrizio. washingtondc1 was correct with "who's", i.e. "who is". "Whose" is possessive. Now waiting to be flamed...

[popandopulus]

Note the edit time.

[slima]

London, Tokyo, and Moscow are all much more expensive than New York City, and they're experiencing booms in their own right. Especially London. With all the great things that a city like New York has to offer, it can't not be expensive.

[AAAESLLESO]

Note the edit time.

Was that you flaming me, Zippy? Fair point. I just added the bit about "whose" being possessive. I expect alcohol had something to do with my not thinking of it originally and I was very seriously UTI when I did the edit so it was a miracle I was able to type anything. Why the hell it popped into my head then is a blur.

[Kdgjhytiy]

Merry: you´re my kinda gal.

[roundman]

Was that you flaming me, Zippy? Fair point. I just added the bit about "whose" being possessive.

The Good Sisters pounded me with grammar lessons, but ironically, it's hard to type with gnarled hands.

Its?