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Old 05-18-2012, 11:01 PM   #1
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Default Will Mitt Romney be America's first Latino president?
Just because his grandpa (or was it great grandpa) moved to Mexico, and his dad (whose mom was caucasian) moved back to the US doesn't make him Latino.
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:06 PM   #2
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It'd be like if your grandad moved to Japan, married an American woman and had your father who in turn married an American woman while living in Japan - then moved to the US and had you and then you refering to yourself of Japanese ethnicity.
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:25 PM   #3
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Thankfully the Native American Rights Fund caught her
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Old 05-19-2012, 12:17 AM   #4
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Hey if Alberto Fujimori is Latino, I see no reason why Romney can't be.

Latino is not a race.

There are plenty of WASPy Latinos.
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Old 05-19-2012, 02:03 AM   #5
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Latino is not a race.
QFT. Imran's analogy is incredibly flawed.
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Old 05-19-2012, 02:34 AM   #6
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Hey if Alberto Fujimori is Latino, I see no reason why Romney can't be.

Latino is not a race.

There are plenty of WASPy Latinos.
No one thinks it's a race. But the "Anglo-Saxon" in "WASP" means he's not Hispanic. Duh.
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Old 05-19-2012, 02:47 AM   #7
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No one thinks it's a race. But the "Anglo-Saxon" in "WASP" means he's not Hispanic. Duh.
It's actually the "P" in "WASP" that is most likely to make you non-Latino, not the "AS". There are plenty of Germanic Latinos in South America.
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Old 05-19-2012, 03:56 AM   #8
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anglosaxons in Latin America are few, I think most would be expats from the USA in Mexico. German descended people are much more common, mainly in Brasil, Argentina and Chile.


Are irish descended people considered anglo saxon?
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Old 05-19-2012, 04:07 AM   #9
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Are irish descended people considered anglo saxon?
No
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Old 05-19-2012, 04:14 AM   #10
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He looks like a normal brunet northwestern european to me
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Old 05-19-2012, 04:50 AM   #11
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No, most argentines are spanish italian or mestizos, north west europe would be the british islands.
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Old 05-19-2012, 05:02 AM   #12
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What is Latino, then? If I move to Argebtina with my wife and then emigrate to the US, am I a Latino? Or are my children Latinos if they were born in Argentina?
Do I need to have Native American blood? Do I need to be Catholic? Do I need to speak Spanish? Do I need to have ancestors that lived in colonial Spain? If I am a Spanish American, am I a Latino?
I think Latino is a dangerous term invented by WASPs to protect the WASPiness of a "white person". They had enough problems with other people claiming to be white, like the Irish, Poles and Italians. With so many immigrants trom Latin America they had to invent a term to segregate them. You cannot call them a new race, you can't shunt them all into the "mixed race" category, because some of them are white, but you have to show their "otherness" at the highest level of demographic statistics. And that's how "Hispanic of any race" has been born. "Look, dangerous people are occupying American Southwest! They don't speak English and obey only the Pope! It's a national catastrophe!"
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Old 05-19-2012, 01:52 PM   #13
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What is Latino, then? If I move to Argebtina with my wife and then emigrate to the US, am I a Latino? Or are my children Latinos if they were born in Argentina?
Do I need to have Native American blood? Do I need to be Catholic? Do I need to speak Spanish? Do I need to have ancestors that lived in colonial Spain? If I am a Spanish American, am I a Latino?
I think Latino is a dangerous term invented by WASPs to protect the WASPiness of a "white person". They had enough problems with other people claiming to be white, like the Irish, Poles and Italians. With so many immigrants trom Latin America they had to invent a term to segregate them. You cannot call them a new race, you can't shunt them all into the "mixed race" category, because some of them are white, but you have to show their "otherness" at the highest level of demographic statistics. And that's how "Hispanic of any race" has been born. "Look, dangerous people are occupying American Southwest! They don't speak English and obey only the Pope! It's a national catastrophe!"
Indeed. In a nut shell.
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Old 05-19-2012, 01:57 PM   #14
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Germany is more north central Europe. Or even just central Europe.
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Old 05-19-2012, 02:12 PM   #15
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What is Latino, then? If I move to Argebtina with my wife and then emigrate to the US, am I a Latino? Or are my children Latinos if they were born in Argentina?
Do I need to have Native American blood? Do I need to be Catholic? Do I need to speak Spanish? Do I need to have ancestors that lived in colonial Spain? If I am a Spanish American, am I a Latino?
I think Latino is a dangerous term invented by WASPs to protect the WASPiness of a "white person". They had enough problems with other people claiming to be white, like the Irish, Poles and Italians. With so many immigrants trom Latin America they had to invent a term to segregate them. You cannot call them a new race, you can't shunt them all into the "mixed race" category, because some of them are white, but you have to show their "otherness" at the highest level of demographic statistics. And that's how "Hispanic of any race" has been born. "Look, dangerous people are occupying American Southwest! They don't speak English and obey only the Pope! It's a national catastrophe!"
Well to be fair, it's not like the Latinos don't differentiate themselves (ie- Chicanos, Borinqueños, etc.)
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Old 05-19-2012, 04:26 PM   #16
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If by 'Northwest' you mean not really north or particularly west, then Germany is certainly in Northwest Europe...
Geographically, it is almost always used to include the United Kingdom and Ireland; the northern and western parts of France and Germany; the Benelux countries; and the nordic countries (though possibly not Finland).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwestern_Europe
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:49 PM   #17
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In many central American countries protestants are now over 10% of the population, in one (Guatemala perhaps) they are over 30%, they were converted from catholicism into protestantism by missionaries from the USA, they tend to be speaking in tongues pentecostals.
Now, I'm an atheist but one who's family comes from a mostly Protestant background (albeit not very observant) but even I think the who pentecostal speaking in tongues thing is bizarre beyond words. Those people need their heads examined.
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:24 AM   #18
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Geographically, it is almost always used to include the United Kingdom and Ireland; the northern and western parts of France and Germany; the Benelux countries; and the nordic countries (though possibly not Finland).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwestern_Europe Yes, Wikipedia says it so it must be true. Alternatively you could just look at a map and explain how not being in the north makes a country northern.
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Old 05-20-2012, 06:24 PM   #19
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Yes, Wikipedia says it so it must be true. Alternatively you could just look at a map and explain how not being in the north makes a country northern.
I think I'll believe Wikipedia and not your dumb ass, thank you very much.
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Old 05-20-2012, 07:13 PM   #20
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I just followed your advice and looked at a map. Turns out my eyes see the same Northwest Europe as Wikipedia! Problem solved!
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