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Old 01-06-2011, 10:52 AM   #21
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MikeH, the LA riots were almost 20 years ago, dude! You guys had riots like last week or something!
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Old 01-06-2011, 10:56 AM   #22
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MikeH, the LA riots were almost 20 years ago, dude! You guys had riots like last week or something!
Cite! We had student protests, no racial riots.

You think Rodney King couldn't happen now? And if it did happen that the reaction would be massively different?

I knew you wouldn't read what I said.
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Old 01-06-2011, 11:27 AM   #23
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Cite! We had student protests, no racial riots.

You think Rodney King couldn't happen now? And if it did happen that the reaction would be massively different?

I knew you wouldn't read what I said.
No. There's been a number of Black guys who were more innocent than Rodney King who were beat down and/or murdered by cops (usually NYPD) and no riots happened. Amadou Diallo, Sean Bell, etc. The LA Riots had a lot more to do with the general social climate than Rodney King specifically. King was beat in 1991 but obviously music groups like NWA had already been out and were already speaking from anger towards police brutality beforehand.

And I did read what you said.
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Old 01-06-2011, 11:59 AM   #24
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Would people in London riot because of something that happened in Moscow? Actually Moscow to London is probably closer than NY to LA.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:21 PM   #25
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I am suggesting that LA is still prone to rioting, you started talking about things NYPD have done. I don't see what the possible relevance is.

My postulate is that if there is a high profile police brutality case in LA you could still see rioting. Apparently it nearly kicked off in Oakland after a cop was let off shooting a kid on BART, but it wasn't that severe in the end. And Oakland still isn't LA.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:40 PM   #26
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France aint ****.

That's sorted your burkha criticisms.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:49 PM   #27
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Nor has France.

Ok, we get it, you live in a violent **** hole. And what's that got to do with the issue at hand? Nothing.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:53 PM   #28
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And?

Is that supposed to prove that nowhere in the US has racial tension?
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:57 PM   #29
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Really, I'm doing it. I'm calling Provost Harrison out on his comment a third time. I want to know how having a Muslim minority makes European countries have Sharia and enforced Hijab when very few Islamic countries enforce hijab as is and have never enforced it in any modern context.

PH's racist European ignorance is showing, I think.
(1) Do you understand I am trolling you?

(2) Do you understand there is a time difference between Europe and the Americas and that when you were "calling me out" I was fast asleep.

But anyway, my "racist European ignorance" that you are referring to. Well the recent voting for the BNP has come about from some reaction to the established political parties not being seen to represent the views of a large section of the population, hence this protest vote. And yeah, there is always a certain element of reaction to large waves of immigration and problems achieving integration and controlling the flow of immigration, which to be fair, I think the Labour government has been particularly poor at achieving. Such a large influx has provided some tension in the UK, and throughout Europe for that matter as you can see.

But the BNP passed their peak a bit ago and their share of the vote has fallen considerably in the last general election.

Oh, and on a side note, I've seen how you Americans treat and talk to Mexicans. You have no position to lecture me or fellow Europeans on racism.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:24 PM   #30
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Or even in most of the US.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:44 PM   #31
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Wow. Google sez Phillie has a murder rate twice as high as Mexico City.

Philly: 27.7 per 100,000.
Mexico City: 13.4 per 100,000
London: 2.1 per 100,000

Basically a third world hell on earth.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:53 PM   #32
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Philly aint ****.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:56 PM   #33
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Oh yeah and the Philly PD have had big budget cuts. They had to cancel Academy classes because they can't support the police force due to the city government being completely in debt even though city taxes are amongst the highest in the country here.

Yeah it's shitty but that's how things are.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:58 PM   #34
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And has that suddenly got something to do with whether there are any racial tensions in LA or whether there is the possibility of any rioting?

Nope. Didn't think so.
Why not? Are you acting like people in an area more prone to crime (and economic depression) wouldn't be more likely to riot?

Would a more affluent area be less likely to riot? I think so.
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Old 01-06-2011, 03:03 PM   #35
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Some facts on LA that MikeH apparently isn't aware of, all courtesy Wikipedia:

Black or African American: 9.9% (this one surprised me. I didn't realize there were so few Blacks in LA.

Median household income: $48,610
Mean household income: $76,557
For comparison, here's Philly:

Black or African American: 43.5% The median income for a household in the city was $30,746, and the median income for a family was $37,036. The per capita income for the city was $16,509. About 18.4% of families and 22.9% of the population were below the poverty line,
Which city do you think would be more likely to have race riots? The one with 8% Black population or 43%? How about the one with the 22.9% poverty rate or the city with a median household income of nearly $50K?

Well, MikeH? Would it surprise you that neither city has had a race riot in decades?
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Old 01-06-2011, 03:06 PM   #36
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Britain and France have tiny muder rates compared to LA or Philly, but you are claiming we're constantly in a state of racist hate riots. So if that were true wouldn't it disprove your theory?

We're also less affluent. But have less crime.

Does murder rate reflect affluence? Clearly not.
Are all areas of LA equally safe/dangerous and equally rich and equally likely to riot? Clearly not.
Do all areas of LA have consistent crime rates? Clearly not.

Have you got a point? Clearly not.
To be fair Mike, the issue here may be that the US, on average is more affluent, but there is a much greater disparity...
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