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Old 04-19-2011, 09:24 AM   #1
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Default The Difference between the United Kingdom, Great Britain and England
Are you the only one that had problems with this, Doc? It's very straight-forward.
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:42 AM   #2
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Oh wait Commonwealth REALM and British Commonwealth are two different things
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:51 AM   #3
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Are you the only one that had problems with this, Doc? It's very straight-forward.
Yes, found it a bit confusing.
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:27 AM   #4
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It could have stopped at about one minute and forty-five seconds. At that point, the video has covered the basics.


But I don't understand what part doc found to be confusing. I'm confused about his confusion.
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Old 04-19-2011, 02:35 PM   #5
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Oh, i'm sure you all understood every part
The UK/Great Britain/England part, certainly. I think everybody knows that. It's not complicated. Great Britain is the island itself which includes England, Wales, and Scotland. The United Kingdom is all that plus Northern Ireland. It's why the UK's official name tells the whole story... The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Sorry, Doc. Once again, your Texan education system has failed you, buddy. This is 5th grade geography.


What I actually didn't know (and which was not addressed in the video) is the difference between the British Commonwealth (now known as Commonwealth of Nations), which includes South Africa, India, Pakistan, Kenya, etc. and the Commonwealth Realm which includes Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Jamaica, etc. This whole time, while I was aware Australia, etc. recognized the Queen and India, etc. did not (I actually thought South Africa DID, though, but apartheid should have tipped me off), it never clicked that this distinction mattered and that there are two Commonwealths.

That's something I don't think many Americans know: that there are two Commonwealths.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:11 AM   #6
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come to think of it , I think that was 5th grade. Fuk, lol, that was 1974 for me.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:16 AM   #7
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That's something I don't think many Americans know: that there are two Commonwealths.
It gets better.

There is talk in the UK of ammending the succession law so that Catholics and first born daughters with younger brothers can take the throne. OK, fine.

Thing is, the Queen is sort of important for all the other countries for which she is also the Queen. The Brits want the backing of all of them, but especially Canada (for some reason, maybe the largest, the oldest, etc).

Here's the hitch. It's in our Constitution that 'the Office of the Queen' requires unanimous assent of all provinces as well as Parliament to make changes to. Trick is there is this one province...

Ohh, boy. This could get good.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:28 AM   #8
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Only certain things require unanimous provincial agreement. 'The Office of the Queen/King' being one.

Others require 7 of 10 provinces with 50% of the population.

Others can be changed by Parliament alone, or a province alone.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:33 AM   #9
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It gets better.

There is talk in the UK of ammending the succession law so that Catholics and first born daughters with younger brothers can take the throne. OK, fine.
Why would they let a Catholic be head of the Church of England? That would be like a Muslim Pope.
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Old 04-20-2011, 02:07 AM   #10
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I can see it. The person in the position is not nearly as important as the institution.
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Old 04-20-2011, 02:11 AM   #11
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Doc, you are low functioning. You shouldn't be surprised that it is quite simple to other people. Then again, I guess you should be.
Do you ever say anything good about people?
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Old 04-20-2011, 02:55 AM   #12
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No doubt, Ku Klux Klansmen quite honestly believe they are doing the right thing hanging a black person upside down in tree and painting him white. Not exactly good manners, hanging people in trees and all that. "Trying to be honest" does have its limitations.
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:10 AM   #13
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:17 AM   #14
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No doubt, Ku Klux Klansmen quite honestly believe they are doing the right thing hanging a black person upside down in tree and painting him white. Not exactly good manners, hanging people in trees and all that. "Trying to be honest" does have its limitations.
That's a ridiculous analogy. You should feel ashamed for even thinking you were being clever with it.
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:30 AM   #15
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75? You talking about the Saigon evacuation?
the pull out. Am I wrong? the last military.
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:33 AM   #16
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makes a person sleep better
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:40 AM   #17
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The United States abandoned South Vietnam in 72. By 73 the only American troops in Vietnam were used to guard the American embassy, and other such buildings and were no longer used to fight the North Vietnam army.

In 75 during the fall of Saigon the US deployed a imited number of troops around thier embassy while evacuating thier embassy personal and the rich South Vietnamesse.
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:46 AM   #18
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So now you're calling me a liar. Oh well, I don't really care. At least you admit that you are ridiculous. Maybe you'll start to become a bit more interesting on this forum rather than just KH's goldfish poop.
more humane than I can say for the both of you
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Old 04-20-2011, 04:26 AM   #19
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That's a good question. I'd venture a guess that the proponents of change don't feel the position as the head of the Church is that important.
this is one of more thorny issues surrounding the change.

in fact everyone agrees that allowing a catholic succession and giving female heirs equality would be a good thing, but the practicalities are complicated and require a lot of working out. it's a bit like house of lords reform, nigh on everyone agrees that something should be done, but do it in a way that doesn't mess everything up and create a worse situation is the hard part.
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Old 04-20-2011, 04:39 AM   #20
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Reasons for?

Hard to change or ditching?
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