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Old 08-30-2012, 04:44 PM   #1
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Reading a couple other threads this morning, caused me to ponder and think about what I should get for my greens fees and what I expect from the course. I think for the most part I really expect good conditions for the cost (subjective I know), good friendly service, reasonable pace of play, Clean carts, charged carts, enforced dress code, info on the local rules, decent snack bar or restaurant, and hopefully a handicap index conversion chart for the course I'm playing. What do you guys expect from the courses you play? Do you think you should be left alone on the tee box? should they tell you where to play from or how to dress? Is etiquette important? Just curious because after I move, I'd like to get a job at a course and I'm interested in peoples thoughts.
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Old 08-30-2012, 04:46 PM   #2
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I think that price really determines what you should get.

I do think at any course you play, you should have a starter that explains the course if you have never played, talks about potential rules, etc. I expect a proshop staff that is nice and makes sure not to stack tee times on top of each other (wishful thinking hehe)

I also expect working carts as well
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Old 08-30-2012, 04:48 PM   #3
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Honestly, greens fees around here are so cheap that all I expect is for them to write my name down in the book when I call. I guess I do expect the course to be in playbable condition.

The expectations at my club are a little different. I expect excellent conditions and a decent pace of play.
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Old 08-30-2012, 04:49 PM   #4
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I expect good conditions relative to the price and friendly knowledgeable people. That's about it. I don't use carts most of the time so that doesn't really matter to me.
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Old 08-30-2012, 04:49 PM   #5
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Course conditions are the most important thing. The staff can be the nicest staff in the world, but if the course is in bad shape, I'm probably not coming back there if it's a course that is new to me. I guess what I mean by that is I'd prefer to see a golf course take the money they earn and put it back into the maintenance of the course. I don't need a bunch of bells and whistles outside of that.
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Old 08-30-2012, 04:51 PM   #6
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I expect quality course conditions, friendly service, respectful membership, and greenskeepers who aren't morons about pin placements. heh.

I think they should definitely offer local rule information, suggested tees, and being that most courses have dress code on their site, I'm not too concerned about it.
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Old 08-30-2012, 04:57 PM   #7
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I'm like Hawk, our rates are usually pretty inexpensive so when I'm looking to just go out and play a course I expect my name on the tee sheet, nobody cutting in front of me and friendly service. That's about it. Also an on course marshal to keep pace of play would be nice but that doesn't always happen. A beverage cart is nice as well.

When I am considering joining a club I would be much more picky. Then I'd look for the handicapping services such as GHIN and I'd definitely look for a solid Men's Club as well. Friendly and helpful staff with good course conditions would also be a must.
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Old 08-30-2012, 05:00 PM   #8
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My expectations are in direct relation to the fees and quite frankly have very few must haves. Putting surface and surrounding 20 yard area should top notch in relation to the rest of the course. I don't play a lot of high quality courses or memberships. I am very comfortable in middle of the road and often find attitude and the need to be somebody your not at other places. But then again, maybe I'm not suited for suits and ties either .

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Old 08-30-2012, 05:07 PM   #9
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Here's what I expect, and seem to never get. If I am on a course that I have never played before, and it is full of blind tee shots (can't see landing area), I expect either GPS to tell me how far to landing areas, or a plaque/sign to tell me how far to the landing area. Nothing I hate worse than never knowing where to aim or what club to hit just because I can't see past 150 yards.

Unfortunately, it seems to happen way too much that I'm left out there guessing.

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Old 08-30-2012, 05:21 PM   #10
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I'm with some of the others and just want good course conditions. There's nothing worse than paying $50+ on a course only to get out there and the course looks like crap. That's one of the reasons I dropped my last membership. I loved the people there and the course had a good layout, but they were very lacking in maintaining the course. I went out there to visit a couple of days ago and it hasn't gotten any better. It may have gotten a little worse though. I'm now at a course that goes over and above what I would expect, but I had to find another group to play with.
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Old 08-30-2012, 05:22 PM   #11
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Good course conditions, and if the course is in bad shape, the staff should inform me of it, so that I can make a decision wether to play or not. If a service is provided it should be of good quality, carts, food, etc. If the kitchen is out of order, it's fine, but don't serve bad food. If the carts work every other day, and die on the course, let me play and walk. It's the amount of services / free services I expect to be correlate with the green fee price.

Etiquette (normal golf etiquette) I expect always, and clothing wise I expect something that goes hand in hand with the price. If the GF is 5 USD, I don't care if people are naked, but if it's 100 USD I'd like to see at least clean clothes, and clothes that are made for the game. If the green fee is over 1000 USD I'd expect free Pro V1 range balls, 5 course dinner, massage, sauna, two rounds and a Playmate (who can play golf) as a caddie.
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Old 08-30-2012, 05:24 PM   #12
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Really good thread TB. I want to know what shape the course is in. Is it aerating time or not? Is there any storm damage? Standing water on the course or in the bunkers? I also feel like these should adjust the greens fees. I know that isn't really going to happen, but I think it would be much more fair.
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:32 PM   #13
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There are only a couple types of courses around here that I play. One is the $20-$30 muni, the other the $30-$50 semi privates.
For a muni, please just have decent greens. For goodness sakes, it's the point of the game you do your scoring. Please don't have dead spots, bumps, angled cups, or any other hideous obstacle on the greens. I don't even care if they're furry and slow, just make them consistent and rollable. And give me a cart that will make it 18 holes without falling apart or dying and how about a water jug on #5 and #14?
For the nicer courses around here, I expect sweet, perfect, true rolling greens and some nice fluffy fairways...preferably green in color. Staff and carts should be a notch above the rest. I don't expect in-cart GPS or clubhouses with every amenity at this price, just a really nice golfing experience.
Now, for anything beyond $50, in my book, there shouldn't be any complaints. If you paid $50 for a meal, you'd expect it to be Gordon Ramsey type delicious. Why shouldn't my round of golf be that enjoyable at that price?
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:42 PM   #14
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I played a course a few week's ago that is very nice. Just was voted top 25 funnest courses in Golf Digest. $78 for 18 holes and a cart. No starter, name was on the tee sheet and that was it. I asked if they had yardage books and they wanted to charge me $5. Now I know $5 is not that much. But if I am spending $78 to play golf at your course, it would be a nice touch to just include the yardage book.
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:54 PM   #15
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I played a course a few week's ago that is very nice. Just was voted top 25 funnest courses in Golf Digest. $78 for 18 holes and a cart. No starter, name was on the tee sheet and that was it. I asked if they had yardage books and they wanted to charge me $5. Now I know $5 is not that much. But if I am spending $78 to play golf at your course, it would be a nice touch to just include the yardage book.
I played a course once that handed out USGA Rules of golf books with every paid greens fee, they highlighted and changes to the rules from the prior year. I thought that was a nice touch.
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:56 PM   #16
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I played a course once that handed out USGA Rules of golf books with every paid greens fee, they highlighted and changes to the rules from the prior year. I thought that was a nice touch.
Yes that is nice. Also my home course that I play weekly always makes sure they have yardage books and tees in every cart. I guess I could just be spoiled.
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:58 PM   #17
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On public courses I dont expect much, just a place to play some golf. Most public courses around here are cheap and cant afford much of anything else. Its very rare to see a starter, marshall or snack cart on the couse either.
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:01 PM   #18
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For the prices that I pay to play golf here in California I expect the best possible conditions, but of course I am constantly let down. I honestly don't know how some of these courses still charge what they do and get business. I know one of my favorite tracks went downhill for awhile and are slowly rising back up. Luckily I don't have to pay the $80+ to play like everyone else does.

Great thread BTW!
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:06 PM   #19
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Course conditions are the most important thing. The staff can be the nicest staff in the world, but if the course is in bad shape, I'm probably not coming back there if it's a course that is new to me. I guess what I mean by that is I'd prefer to see a golf course take the money they earn and put it back into the maintenance of the course. I don't need a bunch of bells and whistles outside of that.
I couldn't agree more with this. There are a couple courses I've been to where they have these amazing pro shops/club house and a really nice restaurant, but then the course just looks like a cow pasture. Would rather check in to a place with a trailer for a pro shop and have an amazing course to play.
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:06 PM   #20
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All depends on cost. If it's
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