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Old 08-14-2012, 06:10 AM   #1
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Default Morsi's decision to dismiss Army Chief and Defense Minister
How do you brothers see the decision of Egyptian president's revolutionary decision regarding Army Chief and Defense minister's dismissal?

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Egyptians take to the streets to celebrate President Mohamed Morsi's decision to order the retirement of the head of the Army and Defense Minister, Field Marshal Hussein Tantawi.

Thousands of Morsi's supporters gathered in the iconic Tahrir Square and outside the presidential palace in Cairo on Sunday night to voice support for the president's decree, obliging top military officials' dismissal from their positions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjQuwfDCiOs

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* Egyptian press describes Morsi’s move as ‘revolutionary’
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...4-8-2012_pg4_1
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Old 08-14-2012, 06:26 AM   #2
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I think it's a step in the right direction but only time will tell to how effective it has been, plus he needed to get rid of the Mubaraks puppets in order to progress forward. However he is treading a thin line as half of the population want him and the other half want him gone.
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Old 08-14-2012, 06:52 AM   #3
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http://www.shaykhabdalqadir.com/cont...Questioned.php

I think this is relevant here:

THE IKHWANITES AND THE WAHHABITES QUESTIONED
by Shaykh Dr. Abdalqadir as-Sufi - 12/12/2011

The billions of Muslims in the world, that world community whose millions can be seen on world television circling the Ka’aba each year on Hajj, all share a common and immediate concern.

The world’s kafir media openly inform us that the self-styled Ikhwan al-Muslimeen are the radical political force of the Muslims, and that the Wahhabites are the extreme and by implication purist version of the Deen.

Muslims are well aware that the Ikhwan are by their own definition separatists, since, if we are not members, we are excluded or annexed by them.

Allah the Exalted says: (Al-Hujurat: 10)

The muminun are brothers, so make peace between your brothers and have taqwa of Allah so that hopefully you will gain mercy.

The muminun, as defined, by Allah the Exalted, is an all-inclusive term, unifying people by the Deen itself, Islam. It is not a unification by brotherhood per se. Herein is the defining negation of the term ‘Ikhwan al-Muslimeen’. Their notorious “Ya Akhi!” is a simple adoption of the communist term “Oh comrade!” They were born in the age of world socialism.

The self-styled Salafites are the core group of the Wahhabites of Arabia, sustained by the tribe of Ibn Saud, yet evolving as an internal revolt against the Saudis who, nevertheless, sustained them and financed them until the foolish attempt to seize the Haram of Makkah at the time of Fahd ibn Saud. After this they became both an underground and a terrorist organisation with a hidden leadership and absolutely no foundational frame of Islamic knowledge.

The common factors shared by these two deviationist groups are:

They do not govern and have no known or accepted leader.

They do not appoint Zakat Collectors or take Zakat on its primal terms which, of course, do not permit of paper-money or computerised numbers money being defined as intrinsic wealth.

They have a historical record of living under regimes, and being funded by them, while denouncing these regimes as kafir.

As a result of their silence on issues of the Deen itself, alongside their adoption (hidden) of Islamic leadership, significant messages have come to me from young educated Muslims across the world asking about their possible legitimacy – so, I have asked the leading Faqih of the School of the Ahl al-Madinah – surely the only Salafi source – to set a questionnaire to these two groups.

Here is the text of this questionnaire by Shaykh ‘Ali al-'Iraqi al-Hussaini.

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QUESTIONS FOR IKHWANITES
by Shaykh 'Ali al-'Iraqi al-Hussaini

Do you take literally the verses of the Quran that refer to Allah – subhanahu wa ta’ala – as having physical attributes?

Is Tawhid divided into Tawhid al-Uluhiyya and Tawhid ar-Rububiya? If so, where in the Quran and the Hadith literature does that division appear?

Is it a reprehensible bid’a to celebrate the Mawlid of the Messenger – may Allah bless him and grant him peace?

Do you follow a madhhab?

Are you (or is al-Qardawi) a mujtahid mutlaq (i.e. a person who does not follow any madhhab because he can derive directly the fiqh from the Quran and the Sunna and has his own methodology of ijtihad)?

Is it allowed to do taqlid of other than the madhhabs of the four Imams?

On which madhhab will the judiciary system of the country whose leadership you want to take be based?

If there is consensus among the Salaf on two possible legal answers, can you create a third one in the modern day?

Will all the articles of the law be enacted by the government or will it be left to the Judges’ discretion to apply the law?

Is paper and electronic money, as issued nowadays by the central banks of different countries, a halal currency to be used by Muslims in their financial transactions and Zakat?

Will you restore a collected Zakat with legally appointed Collectors?

Do you think Fractional Reserve Banking is halal?

Are banks and other large financial institutions, like pension funds, insurance companies, etc., necessary for the economic growth of the Muslims?

Are the deals of limited liability companies in stock markets acceptable in Islam?

Do you abide by all the articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Is democracy the best form of government for Muslims in today’s age?

Is taxation of all citizenry acceptable in Islam?

Are the laws of dhimma applicable today?

Will the country whose leadership you want to take have an Emirate with authority only limited by the injunctions of the Sharia or he will be vetoed by the decisions of a Parliament?

Do you agree that jihad is fard kifaya once every year?

Do you consider a person who blows himself/herself up in a so-called martyrdom operation to be a shahid?

Is Tasawwuf the science of Ihsan and therefore part of the Deen?

Do you deem it necessary to destroy the graves of the Awliya and other respected Muslims of the past?

Do you consider doing dhikr loudly a reprehensible bid’a in the Deen?
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Old 08-14-2012, 06:52 AM   #4
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This is exactly what America want and what is mentioned in her Greater Middle East Initiative from 2004.
In order for democracy to prevail, the power has to be with the civil state, not the military.

This happened in Turkey previously.

Also gives these military chiefs a SAFE EXIT!
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:05 AM   #5
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This is exactly what America want and what is mentioned in her Greater Middle East Initiative from 2004.
In order for democracy to prevail, the power has to be with the civil state, not the military.

This happened in Turkey previously.

Also gives these military chiefs a SAFE EXIT!
And what about the Qadr of Allah swt? Does that supercedes America's?
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:12 AM   #6
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And what about the Qadr of Allah swt? Does that supercedes America's?
What do you mean? They plot and Allah plots and Allah is the Best of Planners....meaning through all these plans Allah will establish His deen even with the MB and despite the efforts of Washington? Maybe but we do not Know the plan of Allah swt...He might make them fail because they are not applying the deen as the Prophet (saw) did.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:16 AM   #7
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What do you mean? They plot and Allah plots and Allah is the Best of Planners....meaning through all these plans Allah will establish His deen even with the MB and despite the efforts of Washington? Maybe but we do not Know the plan of Allah swt...He might make them fail because they are not applying the deen as the Prophet (saw) did.
I agree with you brother - ultimately Allah swt is in charge of our affairs, and it is a beautiful knowledge. 'America' can plot as much as it wishes, but the Divine Destiny is unfolding exactly as desired.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:48 AM   #8
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This is exactly what America want and what is mentioned in her Greater Middle East Initiative from 2004.
In order for democracy to prevail, the power has to be with the civil state, not the military.

This happened in Turkey previously.

Also gives these military chiefs a SAFE EXIT!
I have heard several times, they (Ikhwan) are in strong opposition of America and Israel. http://www.radianceweekly.com/289/81...se-israel.html

So how could you say that this is exactly what America wants? Instead, America has always advocated the military or imperial types of government in the region to suppress the Islamic and other nations, that could be potential threat to their (American's) interests.

You are exactly advocating American concept. Opposing civil government and advocating Military government? Isn't it?
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:47 PM   #9
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I have heard several times, they (Ikhwan) are in strong opposition of America and Israel. http://www.radianceweekly.com/289/81...se-israel.html

So how could you say that this is exactly what America wants? Instead, America has always advocated the military or imperial types of government in the region to suppress the Islamic and other nations, that could be potential threat to their (American's) interests.

You are exactly advocating American concept. Opposing civil government and advocating Military government? Isn't it?
Although President Mursi's announcement startled observers, the BBC's Kim Ghattas in Washington says the US showed no sign of surprise.

As the US gives more than $1bn in aid to the Egyptian military, it would expect some degree of consultation or warning, she says.The new Egyptian defence team is made of up officials who have trained in the US and are known to the Pentagon, our correspondent adds."We had expected President Mursi at some point to co-ordinate changes in the military leadership, to name a new team," Pentagon spokesman George Little told reporters.

"The United States and the Department of Defence in particular look forward to continuing a very close relationship with the Scaf (Supreme Council of the Armed Forces)."'


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-midd...PublicRSS20-sa
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:53 PM   #10
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why did Morsi ask Egyptians to rally behind him after sacking those generals?
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