[acceraStoof]

India and Pakistan are two neighbouring countries. But, India is far superior to Pakistan in economic might. Why ? What are the real reasons ?

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The Illuminati have chosen China to be the main producer/ manufacturer of the NWO. China's economy is completely artificial. The stated economic justifications for China's current rise are lies, and a veil for an agenda.

by David Richards
(henrymakow.com)

The mainstream media generally portray the US as a dying giant and China as an unstoppable rising power.

And yet, both countries have virtually the same debt-to-GDP levels. The US has $15 trillion worth of debt and a GDP of just over $14 trillion, while China has a GDP of $5.8 trillion and debts of $5.7 trillion.

So why is China portrayed as being strong? Because, as the Goldman Sachs graph shows, over the next 40-years the Illuminati plan to weaken the US and strengthen China. Economics are a veil for an agenda.

China is picked to be the economic powerhouse of the New World Order.

A 2003 projection of the world's economies by Goldman Sachs 'predicts' that China's GDP will overtake the US in 2040. By 2050 China's GDP will have reached $45,000 billion, leaving the US a distant second with $35,000 billion. Germany, the powerhouse of the EU, will only have a GDP of $2,500 billion.

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While the book blames America, it is obvious that it was the international bankers/illuminati that brought Japan up, and then crashed it to take their profit.

This is what is coming for China. And, indeed, the successor to China has already been determined. It is India, which is in the early days of their boom.

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[Reocourgigiot]

Chinese military is becoming stronger day by day. Check this link.

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On January 6, the New York Times reported that China has rolled out the J-20 tactical fighter, its first stealth (radar evading) plane, which appears to be a copy of the U.S. F-22. According to the Times, "Andrei Chang, the Hong Kong editor in chief of the Canadian journal Kanwa Defense Weekly, who reported the jet's tests, said Wednesday. They want to show the U. S., show Mr. Gates, their muscle.'"

While experts concede that China "remains a generation or more behind the U.S. in military technology," and even further behind in "naval and air capabilities... it is now unveiling capabilities that suggest that it intends sooner or later, to be able to challenge American forces in the Pacific."

Today China surpasses the U.S. in energy consumption. It was not expected to do that until 2015. It now ranks second behind the U.S. in its economic standing in the world, surpassing Japan. Also, China owns 25 percent of America's national debt and remains our largest ongoing lender creditor. If Beijing were to stop lending to us, the interest rates we would have to pay others to lend to us would be so high that they could cause another Great Recession.

China's huge edge in our balance of trade is a serious situation which doesn't appear solvable without tariffs or quotas, which are unacceptable to the Obama administration. The 10-month trade imbalance between China and the U.S. is $227 billion through October 2010.

All this underlines the dangers that face us in the event of war with China. Why should we even talk of war? Because the U.S. has a "commitment to defend it [Taiwan] should Beijing carry out an attack," reports the Times. That China is capable of attacking Taiwan is not in doubt.

Are we in a position to engage in such a war? Not as long as we continue to be mired in the war in Afghanistan and have a substantial military presence in Iraq and rely on Pakistan.

[AngelBee]

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London Wants to Tap Chinese Currency Market ... Britain plans to turn London into a major foreign exchange trading center for the Chinese renminbi to benefit from faster growth in Asia while strengthening the city's position as a financial center in the wake of the banking crisis. George Osborne, the chancellor of the Exchequer, said during a visit to Hong Kong on Monday that he was working with Chinese and British banks to establish London as a new hub for the renminbi market. – Deal Book/NY Times

Dominant Social Theme: London seizes an opportunity within the context of making the City grow. Just business, you know.

Free-Market Analysis: Suddenly, having pushed Europe away, the City is eagerly embracing China, as we can see from the New York Times article excerpt above. Do you believe this, dear reader? We don't. To us it seems like one more step on the "long march" toward the much touted, elitist New World Order.

Too big a jump in logic? Follow our reasoning through the rest of this article. First of all, we have to question the New York Times' credibility. Myriad documents on the Internet now prove fairly conclusively that the Times is a kind of mouthpiece for the US Intel complex. What the CIA wants, the Times prints.

Of course, the CIA – to complicate matters – is not working for the US government or its "people" but for a tiny, elite clique of impossibly wealthy central banking families headquartered in London with arms in Rome, Washington DC and Tel Aviv.

The goal of this tiny group of intergenerational elites and their colleagues and enablers in the corporate, military and political world is to build global government, a seamless intercontinental sociopolitical and economic facility. In order to create such an ambitious paradigm, it is not enough to stitch European countries together. Asia and China must be brought into the fold as well.

The Anglosphere, as we call it, often does this by military means, by the way. Wars are the crucible, apparently, in which one-world government is forged. This would explain, for instance, the increasing obviousness of the phony Cold War, as well as the Korean and Vietnamese conflicts – which also included, at least to some degree, Cambodia and Thailand.

It is war that gives the West's massive mercenary forces the justification to bring to bear secret invasions and manipulations of various countries. It is war that allows the Anglosphere to destabilize regimes it does not favor while putting into power those with whom it can work in the future.

We think we see this not just in Asia, but in China, too. Well hidden in 20th century is at least the possibility that there was secret funding and encouragement for Chairman Mao and his takeover of China. This is basically a historical fact when it comes to the USSR. Why shouldn't it be the same for the Red Dragon?

The elites apparently always seek this kind of polarization. It is part of a larger Hegelian Dialectic that is intended to move free markets and freedom-oriented countries into a far more militarized posture. The Cold War basically put military powers in charge in both Europe and America. The questionable "war on terror" is now doing so again.

It is not enough, however, to create a war, or even a totalitarian society. Once the initial authoritarian state has been put into play, the inevitable "liberalizing" can begin. We have seen this now not just with the USSR, but with China, Cuba and even Vietnam.

Of course, the response will come quickly – Marxism doesn't work and the dictatorial elites running these countries have adopted a more businesslike approach to markets in order not to lose power. This is perfectly possible – but it is too neat. Too clean.

We've started to believe in Directed History, you see. That's the kind of history that seems real but is not. It is instead a kind of stage play. The power elite, having placed its disciples into every nook and cranny of the world's political system now stages elaborate fantasies for the masses.

It's been doing this for a very long time, perhaps a century, perhaps three – for however long the current conspiracy to create world government has been in place. (Or perhaps it's evolved.)

No matter. These fantasies are abetted by the West's bought-and-paid for mainstream media. We have long since concluded that every major article of this sort that appears in the "Mockingbird" media is a kind of lie. That goes for this latest story about London and Chinese currency.

If the New York Times is explaining that London and Beijing are to grow closer together for business reasons, we immediately look for another reason. In fact, this idea that China is an exploitable capitalist environment is laughable. No, in our view, China is verging on an economic meltdown that will make Europe's "sovereign crisis" look positively mild.

We have a lot of trouble believing it's real. In fact, we'd speculate it is the most blatant kind of elite dominant social theme. These fear-based promotions are intended to frighten (mostly) Western middle classes into giving up wealth and power to specially prepared globalist institutions like the UN, IMF and World Bank.

In this case, we would tend to believe that the REAL plan of the central banking families that run the world's central banks is merely to use this "promising" currency gambit as a way to stitch communist China more closely into the West's emerging authoritarian environment. Here's some from the article:

"London is perfectly placed to act as a gateway for Asian banking and investment in Europe, and a bridge to the United States," Mr. Osborne said in a speech to the Asian Financial Forum in Hong Kong. "This is not just an accident of time zone, or our language, although both are important. It reflects London's strength in product development, its regulatory structure, and the depth, breadth and international reach of its financial markets."

The pledge comes as Britain is increasingly feeling the effects of an economic slowdown across Europe, and some British banks have threatened to move their headquarters abroad in light of stricter financial regulation. The government hopes that steps toward creating a Chinese currency hub in London will help strengthen the city's role as a financial center vis-à-vis New York and Hong Kong, while helping Britain attract Chinese investments in other sectors, including infrastructure.

Mr. Osborne said London was already the largest foreign exchange market in the world, adding that the growing use of the renminbi would "bring substantial benefit to Chinese economic development and the wider world economy." The Chinese currency's share of the global foreign exchange market was 0.9 percent in June last year, Mr. Osborne said. That compares with China's share in worldwide trade of 11 percent in 2010. "It is clear that there is scope for substantial expansion of the renminbi market in the coming years," Mr. Osborne said.

The article also points out that as a "first step to expand the currency trading," Hong Kong is expanding its renminbi settlement system by five hours. China, it is noted, has been using its currency more in international trade to reduce its reliance on the dollar.

And that's really the bottom line, after all. The elites are doing everything they can, in our view, to loosen the hold of the dollar as the world's reserve currency. Having created the dollar reserve system by ensuring that the Saudis will not take currencies other than the dollar, the power elite is now actively undermining the world's financial system in preparation for a global currency.

Take a step back, please, and look at the larger trends. The BRICs suddenly appear to compete with the US and Europe. But how does this competition take place? It uses the West's paradigm of central banking to juice economies. And then it uses Western corporate knowhow to expand economies. US corporations basically shift their operations out of the West and into the developing world.

All this, it is claimed, is merely the destructive creation of capitalism in play. We'd believe it if the world's economic system had some semblance of a free market. But it doesn't. These corporations, like the central banks that fuel them, are beholden to an elitist command-and-control system. They are not nearly so exposed to competition as they'd like to claim.

People are suggestible. If one has enough money and enough power, it is not hard to create levers that can move the world. If nothing but Coca Cola is on a supermarket shelf, people will drink Coca Cola. If the elites want to create a global monetary system using, say, IMF SDRs, then it will surely be a possibility.

We do believe that some sort of global currency is in the works. What we don't believe in is the way that it will "evolve." The elites would do better simply to declare the plans they have, though of course it's probably not that easy. In fact, the Internet era, as we have long pointed out, is making it far for more difficult for them to stage these kinds of takeovers.

Conclusion: So there is opportunity for the Chinese and British elites to do business together. The last time this occurred, the English basically doped-up half of China. We hope for a better conclusion this time around. But we doubt it.

[Haibundadam]

How bankers and thier minions are treating Bangladesh ? Check this

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[PeterPatrickJohn]

China Power Elite Are Illuminati Colonialists

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Left, David Rockefeller and Zhou Enlai and chamber pot in 1973.

The Chinese people would revolt against overt foreign domination, but embrace their place in the NWO if they believed they were in control.


by St. John Beauchemin
(henrymakow.com)


Beijing -The Chinese elite is a merger between the Communist leadership, Hong Kong tycoons, and the criminal Triads. All three factions derive derive their power from Illuminati collaboration.

China has appeared autonomous because the Illuminati developed the country internally, funding 'revolutionary' political parties spouting nationalist slogans. The reasoning was that the Chinese people would revolt against overt foreign domination, but embrace their place in the NWO if they believed they were in control.

Lord Bertrand Russell revealed this plan in a report on China published in 1920:

'Out of the renaissance spirit now existing in China, it is possible, if foreign nations can be prevented from wreaking havoc, to develop a new civilization better than any that the world has yet known.'

The fascist superpower we know today was created in the second half of the 20th century by the bogus Cold War dialectic of communism vs. capitalism.

The stage was set in 1898 when Britain and China signed a contract stipulating that Hong Kong would be handed back to the Chinese in 1997. This meant that the fierce Communism of the mainland and laissez faire capitalism of Hong Kong were always destined to merge.

The process of unification gave rise to the current China power elite. What follows is background of the three main factions.

THE COMMUNIST LEADERSHIP


Because Communism is an Illuminati creation, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) are by definition, Illuminati agents.

Mao was a Soviet agent. (Mao-The Untold Story, Chang & Halliday, p.49.) The CCP implemented policies that set the foundations for an Illuminati super state. They unified the country, attacked traditional Chinese culture, instigated industrialization programs and created a common language.

Wang Hao, a historian at the China Institute of International Studies, has recorded that Mao's deputy Zhou Enlai met David Rockefeller in June 1973:

'When meeting David Rockefeller, Zhou said to him that it was necessary to find appropriate methods conducive to the development of the trade between two sides under different political systems.'

The corporate-communist merger began when Deng Xiaoping came to power in the late 1970s and introduced his market reforms with the slogan "to get rich is glorious."

However, after 30 years of Maoism his regime was hopelessly ill equipped to run a market economy. They turned to the wealthiest Chinese tycoons in Hong Kong for guidance.

THE HONG KONG TYCOONS

The most powerful HK tycoon is Li Ka-Shing, the richest Asian in the world and an Illuminati insider.

Other prominent tycoons are 'HK's godfather of real estate' Henry Fok, 'The king of gambling' Stanley Ho and the man who would be chosen by Beijing to head Hong Kong after the departure of the British, Tung Chee-Wa.

It is important to realize that these men rose to power and prestige in a British colony, i.e. they were vetted by the City of London to be colonial leaders. This is illustrated by the rise of Li Ka Shing.

As HK developed, Li emerged as the most brilliant Chinese entrepreneur. The 'Brotherhood bankers' of Hong Kong became aware of his mercantile genius and brought him into the fold.

In 1979 Li took control of Hutchinson Whampoa, one of the old British companies that had long dominated Hong Kong's economy. Companies of such political importance are not given away casually. In 2000, the Queen awarded Li the title of 'Knight (Commander of the Order) of the British Empire.'

In the early eighties, the tycoons and the communists had a series of meetings in Beijing. They struck a deal whereby the tycoons advised and educated the Chinese authorities about markets and in return Beijing gave them privileged access to their vast economic basin. In 1984 the two groups founded CITIC, the organization that managed China's transition to market economy.

THE TRIADS

The Triads is a collective term for the secret societies and criminal groups that originated in 18th century China with the aim to bring down the Qing dynasty.

For over a century the Illuminati waged war against the Qing dynasty. The Triads were their vehicle for subversion and revolution, in a similar fashion to Freemasonry in Western revolutions.

For instance, during the opium wars, the Triads helped bring the drug into China. The revolutionary Nationalist Government that toppled the Qing dynasty in 1912 was a coalition of triad groups. Sun Yat-sen, the man who led the nationalist coalition that toppled the Qing in 1912, is recorded as being a Triad member and was trained and armed in British Hong Kong. Chiang Kai-shek was also a Triad member.

When the Communists achieved dominance in 1949 they kicked the Triads out of the country. They fled mainly to Hong Kong and Taiwan to re-build. Chiang Kai-shek continued to publicly receive US funding.

Today the Triads are best known as the world's largest criminal entity, involved in drug trafficking, prostitution, money laundering etc. They exist in any country with a large Chinese population, notably in Canada, Britain, USA and Australia.

Former Canadian diplomat Brian McAdam said: "Within each Chinese community, there's usually a strong Triad presence controlling and extorting money from the businesses, and if there's drugs, they're bringing them in."

Of the Triads enormous global reach Fritz Springmeier has written:

'The Triads are the most powerful criminal fraternal group in the world, except for the Illuminati and the families that make up the Illuminati's Committee of 300. The Mafia Is small peanuts compared to the Triads. The Triads are almost untouchable by any law enforcement group. For instance, in Great Britain the British do not have hardly any ethnic Chinese on their police force to even try infiltrating the Triads.'

A key source of this power is that they partner the Far East Lodges of Freemasonry in running the Asian drugs trade, notably the production of heroin in the 'golden triangle' in South East Asia, second only to Afghanistan. Drug trafficking is very important to the Illuminati because it funds black budget programs.

The most powerful Triads in Hong Kong have their own territories, headquarters, sub-societies and public fronts. They are allied with the tycoons. The tycoon's own Hong Kong and the triads run it. A few of these are Sun Yee On, Wo Hop To and 14K. To insure a smooth handover of Hong Kong in 1997, the communist leadership needed these groups onside.

In the early 80s, the Chinese government sent a representative to convene a secret meeting between the 'Dragon Heads' of the major Triad groups operational in Hong Kong. The communists informed the dragons that if they agreed not to interfere with the takeover transition, they would be allowed to continue their criminal activities without interference.

Following these successful negotiations, Deng Xiaoping spoke of the triads as Chinese "patriotic groups" and the Hong Kong press published a photograph of Charles Heung, a senior officer of Sun Yee On, conversing with Deng's daughter.

In 1992, Western Intelligence Services became aware Wong Man Fong - formerly head of China's central news agency - was helping the triads to set up legitimate businesses in China, particularly in Guangzhou and Shanghai.

CONCLUSION

The mainstream media portrays China as hostile to Western power. However, by studying the triumvirate Chinese elite and their intimate ties to the Illuminati, it is clear that modern China is an Illuminati creation.

The Chinese elite must never stray from the NWO agenda, for it follows that if the Illuminati made them, they can break them too.



Hyperlinks:


Li Ka -Shing = knighthood
http://topics.wsj.com/person/L/li-ka-shing/676

Springmeier Triads
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com..._bloodline.htm

Sun Yat-sen Triad member
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/sun_y/sun_y.html

Brian Mc Adam
Http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-12-6/49016.html

Triads heroin golden triangle
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bi...stsecret14.htm

Triad- Communist collusion. In the early 80s, the Chinese government sent a representative...
http://www.primetimecrime.com/Articl...20page%201.htm

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The Chinese Communists govt have blasted their economy into orbit with central banking super money and the monetary stimulation they've implemented has turned China into a kind of skyscraper graveyard. At this rate there'll be one full building for every man, woman and child in China, with more on the way. Maybe a train per person, too.

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Will Chinese and Western Elites Bring Down the World?
Saturday, February 18, 2012 – by Anthony Wile

As this is apparently "Henry Makow Saturday" (see other article, this issue), I'm going to take the opportunity to comment on an article carried on the Makow website some five days ago entitled "Colonial Elite Rules China for the Illuminati." Written by St. John Bartholomew, the article is interesting whether or not one believes in every aspect of it.

Here at the Daily Bell we've speculated on a regular basis as to whether China's leaders were power elite "insiders" or whether they were native eruptions of Asian totalitarianism. The mainstream media, of course, treats China more and more as an enemy. This suits the Anglosphere power elites that derive additional power and authoritarian justification from creating opponents of the West.

These are actually elite dominant social themes, designed to frighten middle classes into giving up power and wealth to globalist institutions. Knowing this, we finally decided that it was fairly ridiculous to think that the top Chinese leadership existed in some kind of power elite vacuum.

In fact, the Western power elite is a kind of ubiquitous franchise at this point, and has been for close to two centuries. The Anglosphere, in fact, controlled China during Queen Victoria's era – at the height of the Empire – and drugged millions with opium.

Is it realistic to think that the British grip relaxed over time? It is said that the British Commonwealth is a mere formality these days. But a friend of mine insists that top leaders still drop their voices when they mention the term. "They are afraid," he claims.

They are "afraid," then, of the Queen and those who surround her, the great banking families of the City of London. The empire is commonly held to have been dissolved. Winston Churchill participated in this charade. He spent the latter half of his long life bemoaning the greatness that was gone.

At this point I have a hard time believing it. The same Churchill who apparently said, "History will be kind to me for I intend to write it," was a consummate actor and bully-boy for the elite. He played his part, courageously or not, for London's top banking elites. To believe otherwise at this point is somewhat naïve.

It would also be naïve to believe that the Chinese leadership, having been formed and transformed by Western elites, would have no high-level relationships to it now. That's why this article is believable, or one reason anyway. Here's some more from it:

The Chinese people would revolt against overt foreign domination, but embrace their place in the NWO if they believed they were in control ... the Chinese elite is a merger between the Communist leadership, Hong Kong tycoons, and the criminal Triads. All three factions derive derive their power from Illuminati collaboration. China has appeared autonomous because the Illuminati developed the country internally, funding 'revolutionary' political parties spouting nationalist slogans.

Lord Bertrand Russell revealed this plan in a report on China published in 1920: 'Out of the renaissance spirit now existing in China, it is possible, if foreign nations can be prevented from wreaking havoc, to develop a new civilization better than any that the world has yet known.' The fascist superpower we know today was created in the second half of the 20th century by the bogus Cold War dialectic of communism vs. capitalism.

The stage was set in 1898 when Britain and China signed a contract stipulating that Hong Kong would be handed back to the Chinese in 1997. This meant that the fierce Communism of the mainland and laissez faire capitalism of Hong Kong were always destined to merge. The process of unification gave rise to the current China power elite. What follows is background of the three main factions.

The three elements of leadership, according to the article, are the communist leadership, including Mao who was supposedly a "Soviet agent," the Hong Kong Tycoons (later entrants) and the criminal Triads.

The Hong Kong Tycoons represent Western economic know-how and the Triads provide the muscle that has allowed the Tycoons to thrive within the larger regional environment of the ChiCom-leveling enterprise.

This is slightly different than what we've envisioned, in that we believed that the great Chinese leader-families were indigenous to Mainland China, but it makes a lot of sense. The great Asian families fled to Hong Kong, allied themselves with the Triads and gradually regrouped and took control.

What gained them entrance was ChiCom mismanagement, in my view. The ChiComs ended up with credit for the Great Leap Forward that starved 50 million Chinese as well as for the repression of Tiananmen Square. The only way for the ChiComs to regroup was to implement some form of market capitalism, and this they've done. But that's ending as well, I would think.

The ChiComs have blasted their economy into orbit with central banking super money and the monetary stimulation they've implemented has turned China into a kind of skyscraper graveyard. At this rate there'll be one full building for every man, woman and child in China, with more on the way. Maybe a train per person, too.

The article ends by noting that the mainstream media "portrays China as hostile to Western power." It adds that "by studying the triumvirate Chinese elite and their intimate ties to the Illuminati, it is clear that modern China is an Illuminati creation."

I disagree with this latter formulation, as it's never clear to me why those who write for Makow inevitably adopt the Illuminati paradigm. There is evidently and obviously a kind of criminal conspiracy to rule the world being run out of London, Washington DC and Tel Aviv, among other places. It's really not necessary to confuse the issue, in my view, by adding in complicating factors about the "Illuminati," Freemasonry, etc.

The last sentence reads, "The Chinese elite must never stray from the NWO agenda, for it follows that if the Illuminati made them, they can break them too." For clarity's sake, I would rephrase the statement to read, "The Western power elite that made them can break them, too."

I would also add that understanding China's role within the larger realm of Anglosphere directed history is very important. The Western rulers of this gloomy globe know full well that China's economy is bound to implode sooner or later.

If the top Chinese are actually in league with Western powers that be, we should begin to see a kind of coordinated take-down of the world's economy. In fact, absent China (arguably), this is well on its way. One can argue as to whether it is a purposeful collapse or not but for me the arguing is done.

Once the Chinese economy collapses – and inevitably it must sooner or later – the elites may wish to take the next step toward building a fully integrated global government. This may well include a one-world currency, central bank and political and military structure.

I think China may be key to this because in order to implement such an ambitious structure, the globe's misery level is going to have to be considerably heightened. A Chinese economic collapse would certainly aid the cause. If, in fact, the top Chinese are working in league with top Western banking families, this sort of scenario becomes considerably less far-fetched.

[lisualsethelp]

They are getting royal treatment because they have money...

[Habalinnyf]

its a matter of population density, if you supply money; you can build start more business's and with a cheap workforce, that loan will be payed off quick. Its all a matter of little spending for maximum profit. Not to mention the interest they will collect on loans.

[TEFSADDERFISA]

They are getting royal treatment because they have money...

No , they are getting royal treatment , because the Chinese ruling elite has no moral backbone to fight against the usury based banking. Moreover, they are willing to suppress anything related to Divine-- acting as the police force for the one-world dictatorship controlled by the central banking cartels. Check what the Chinese govt is doing to Uighur Muslims.

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China restricts Ramadan fasting for Uighurs in Xinjiang.

Authorities in China's restive northwestern region of Xinjiang have banned Muslim officials and students from fasting during Ramadan, prompting an exiled rights group to warn of new violence.

Guidance posted on numerous government websites called on Communist Party leaders to restrict Muslim religious activities during the holy month, including fasting and visiting mosques.

[Edisesyethisp]

Rich Muslim nations such as Qatar should have focused on extending their reach like China but you know that Qatari Sheikh is only interested in pleasing Israelis and Americans