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Old 08-03-2012, 01:01 PM   #1
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Default A Hadeeth which refers to "The Magnetic Pole Shift" of the Earth.
Prophet Mohammad made a very significant prophecy in a Hadith (transmitted in two variations) that the land of the Arabs (Arabian Peninsula) will return to being paradises and rivers. Through analysis of numerical values of words in this prophecy, this is likely to happen.

Narrated by Abu Hurairah, Prophet Mohammad صلى الله عليه وسلم said: " The Hour (of Resurrection) will not occur, until the land of the Arabs returns to being pastures and rivers." (Sahih Muslim).

A variation of this Hadith also appears in Musnad of Imam Ahmad:

"The Hour (of Resurrection) will not occur until the Arabian Peninsula returns, as it used to be, paradises and rivers." (Musnad Ahmad)

"The Quran in verses 131-135 of Sura Al-Shu'ara (Chapter 26) mentions that the land of people of Aad in Arabia used to be like paradise before God destroyed the city and turned Arabia into desert because they disobeyed God. There are lots of indications that the U.S. is similar to Aad and will receive a similar punishment from God:

131. So fear Allah and obey me. 132. And fear Him (Allah) Who has helped you with the things which you know. 133. He has helped you with cattle and children, 134. And (also) with gardens and springs. 135. Surely I fear the torment of a Terrible Day coming upon you. (Chapter 26: 131-135)

At the time of Prophet Muhammad and until today, Arabia has been a desert.

This indicates that the Arabian Peninsula used to be green pastures many centuries ago, instead of its current condition as a desert. More importantly, this means we should expect a major cosmic event in the upcoming years that will cause such a dramatic change in World climate." As a student of Electromagnetism, I can see how it clearly refers to the "cataclysmic pole shift" hypothesis which suggests that there will be geological rapid shifts in the relative positions of the modern-day geographic locations of the poles and the axis of rotation of the Earth, creating calamities such as floods and tectonic events leading to a global climate change" {Shifting of the Poles. National Geographic by Kiger, Patrick J}

This prophecy has already started to materialize...
Allah knows best.
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Old 08-03-2012, 02:55 PM   #2
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I am not sure if it has already started to materialize or not. However people are only punished after they have been invited to the deen and they then reject it. As far as I know America has not been invited to the deen. Years ago I watched a program on TV which showed that the deserts of Arabia used to be covered by forests and rivers and on a BBC religion forum I asked how the Prophet Muhammad would have known this in his time...the trolls just said that this was also known by the Greeks. Interesting hadiths though.
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Old 08-03-2012, 03:21 PM   #3
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The pole has already started to shift towards Serbia (3-5 degrees so far) and the global climate has been affected severely. One can also look at the compass and compare the deviation between True North and Magnetic North.

"this was also known by the Greeks."
- Lol, what difference would that make for someone who couldn't read or write? Moreso, at that time, the Greek works had not even been translated into Arabic (A language that was systemised after the time of Prophet Salallahu 'Alayhi Wa Sallam)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rds-began.html
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:03 PM   #4
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"this was also known by the Greeks."
- Lol, what difference would that make for someone who couldn't read or write? Moreso, at that time, the Greek works had not even been translated into Arabic (A language that was systemised after the time of Prophet Salallahu 'Alayhi Wa Sallam)
I think they were suggesting that such views may have travelled culturally person to person...not necessarily from books. Which we can never really know about or investigate.
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Old 08-03-2012, 05:58 PM   #5
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The only reason the Sahara desert and Arabia are not lands of river and pasture (through human intervention) - is due to a lack of cheap available energy. If we are talking of the future, one can imagine a situation where for example massive water purification plants exist by the sea, powered through an exotic energy source which we do not have access to which turn Arabia into a land of rivers and pasture.
Of course this is in the future, and one can only speculate (if they wish). I don't buy into the theory of magnetic pole shifts having an effect on us. They are a common enough phenomenon. : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal

What we do know is the end of times will be a catastrophic phenomenon, how they do occur - we do not know - and will probably defy any scientific explanation we have access to today, or will do in the future.
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:14 PM   #6
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Hadeeth = words of Men not of Allah , Meaning if the Hadeeth are not back up by the Holy Qur'aan they're no good . Holy Qur'aan 6 ; 159 , 4 ; 87 ,
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Old 08-04-2012, 04:07 AM   #7
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Hadeeth = words of Men not of Allah , Meaning if the Hadeeth are not back up by the Holy Qur'aan they're no good . Holy Qur'aan 6 ; 159 , 4 ; 87 ,
Hadith are not the words of just ANY man but the greatest of men, the Imam of the Prophets, Sayyidina wa maulana Muhammad . If they come from his lips, they are nothing BUT good
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Old 08-04-2012, 04:13 AM   #8
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The hadith also say that man will artificially green the deserts...and this is already in progress. Amazingly the Arabs in the ME could run everything on solar power if they just wanted to do that to save their oil...



The only reason the Sahara desert and Arabia are not lands of river and pasture (through human intervention) - is due to a lack of cheap available energy. If we are talking of the future, one can imagine a situation where for example massive water purification plants exist by the sea, powered through an exotic energy source which we do not have access to which turn Arabia into a land of rivers and pasture.
Of course this is in the future, and one can only speculate (if they wish). I don't buy into the theory of magnetic pole shifts having an effect on us. They are a common enough phenomenon. : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal

What we do know is the end of times will be a catastrophic phenomenon, how they do occur - we do not know - and will probably defy any scientific explanation we have access to today, or will do in the future.
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Old 08-06-2012, 07:14 AM   #9
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Prophet Mohammad made a very significant prophecy in a Hadith (transmitted in two variations) that the land of the Arabs (Arabian Peninsula) will return to being paradises and rivers. Through analysis of numerical values of words in this prophecy, this is likely to happen.

Narrated by Abu Hurairah, Prophet Mohammad صلى الله عليه وسلم said: " The Hour (of Resurrection) will not occur, until the land of the Arabs returns to being pastures and rivers." (Sahih Muslim).

A variation of this Hadith also appears in Musnad of Imam Ahmad:

"The Hour (of Resurrection) will not occur until the Arabian Peninsula returns, as it used to be, paradises and rivers." (Musnad Ahmad)

"The Quran in verses 131-135 of Sura Al-Shu'ara (Chapter 26) mentions that the land of people of Aad in Arabia used to be like paradise before God destroyed the city and turned Arabia into desert because they disobeyed God. There are lots of indications that the U.S. is similar to Aad and will receive a similar punishment from God:

131. So fear Allah and obey me. 132. And fear Him (Allah) Who has helped you with the things which you know. 133. He has helped you with cattle and children, 134. And (also) with gardens and springs. 135. Surely I fear the torment of a Terrible Day coming upon you. (Chapter 26: 131-135)

At the time of Prophet Muhammad and until today, Arabia has been a desert.

This indicates that the Arabian Peninsula used to be green pastures many centuries ago, instead of its current condition as a desert. More importantly, this means we should expect a major cosmic event in the upcoming years that will cause such a dramatic change in World climate." As a student of Electromagnetism, I can see how it clearly refers to the "cataclysmic pole shift" hypothesis which suggests that there will be geological rapid shifts in the relative positions of the modern-day geographic locations of the poles and the axis of rotation of the Earth, creating calamities such as floods and tectonic events leading to a global climate change" {Shifting of the Poles. National Geographic by Kiger, Patrick J}

This prophecy has already started to materialize...
Allah knows best.
The prophet Muhammad never spoke about Hadeeth because they were written wayyyyyyyyy after his death .
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:40 PM   #10
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The prophet Muhammad never spoke about Hadeeth because they were written wayyyyyyyyy after his death .
Thank you
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:43 PM   #11
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The prophet Muhammad never spoke about Hadeeth because they were written wayyyyyyyyy after his death .
The Quran wasn't compiled until after his death; are you saying he never "spoke about" the Quran either?
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Old 08-06-2012, 09:18 PM   #12
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Hadith are not the words of just ANY man but the greatest of men, the Imam of the Prophets, Sayyidina wa maulana Muhammad . If they come from his lips, they are nothing BUT good
Hadeeth = Only Word's Men and not fron Allah , Any Hadeeth that are not back up by The Holy Qur'aan means nothing .

Holy Qur'aan ( Revealed In The Year 625 - 627 A.D. ) Al Nisaa ~ The Enosite Women ) . 4 ; 87 , Where It States ; The Source , Allah ; No Ilaaha ( Allahs ) Sources Would Exist , Except By Way Of Him -The Creative Force Of Will ) He Will Gather You All , Unto A Day Of Resurrection . There Is No Doubt In It , And Who Is More < Asadaqu - arabic > '' Truthful '' , Than Allahs ( Hadiyth -Tale , Not Man's Hadiyth ) .
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Old 08-07-2012, 12:17 AM   #13
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Holy Qur'aan 4 ; 87 - 91 , , Revealed In The Year 625 - 627 A.D. Al Nisaa ( The Enosite Women ) . Where It States , The source has the best of Hadiyths , Also Refer to 4 ; 92 - 100 , Where It States ; Don't kill another faithful one .

Holy Qur'aan 2 ; 217 -225 , Revealed In The Year 624 - 626 A.D. Al Baqarah ( The Heifer ) ,
Where It States ; Questions about sharing Fighting , Intoxicans , Gambling , And Menstruation .

Holy Qur'aan 9 ; 70 - 73 , Revealed In The Year 631 A.D. Al Tawbah ( The Acceptance Of Reoentance ) , Where It States ; The kindred , Before you who were in a state of unjustness ~ Janaat is promised for the faithful , Also refer to 9 ; 74 - 79 , Where It States ; The hypocrites tried to assassinate Muhammad from his return from tabuk ~ The source gave the hypocrites his grace ~ Allah is the knower of the unseen .

Holy Qur'aan 88 ; 21 - 26 , Revealed In The Year 613 A.D. Ghaashiyah ( The Overwhelming Event , Where It States ; Ahmad remind them ~ Muhammad doesn't have the power to compel them ~ He who turns away from the faith will have the greatest pain ~ Their return and the taking of the their hisaab is to the heavenly host .

Holy Qur'aan 5 ; 45 - 54 Revealed In The Year 627 A.D. Maaidah ( The Table Of Food ) , Where It States ; If someone Tries to Hurt you , Retaliation is a Must .

Holy Qur'aan 9 ; 65 - 69 Revealed In The Year 631 A.D. Al Tawbah ( The Acceptance Of Repentance ) , Where It States ; The hyocrites mocking Muhammad on their way to the battle of tabuk ~ Hevenly host will punish the hypocrites .

Holy Qur'aan , 2 ; 256 - 260 Revealed In The Year 624 - 626 A.D. Al Baqarah ( The Heifer ) , Where It States ; Don't use force to make Enosite accept the peaceful way of life .

Holy Quraan 10 ; 97 - 99 Revealed In The Year 620 A.D. Where It States ; The unfaitjful still don't have faith , Even after a sign from the source comes to them ~ Yonah's Enosites were given a temporary were given a temporary provision , When they had faith . Also refer to 10 ; 100 - 103 , Where It States ; The source puts doubt in their minds ~ The faithful ones will be daved by the Heavenly Host .

Holy Qur'aan 9 ; 25 - 29 Revealed In The Year 631 A.D. Al Tawbah ( The Acceptance Of Repentance ) , Where It States ; The source Aid at Hunayn ~ The associates can't go near the Sacred Masjid .

Hadiyth ~ 4 ; 42 , 4 ; 78 , 4 ; 140 ,

Holy Qur'aan 4 ; 42 , Revealed In The Year 625 - 627 A.D. Al Nisaa ( The Enosite Women ) . Where It States , On that day ( The Last Day ) ; those who concealed what they knew to be the facts , and disobeyed the one sent , ( Muhammad ) , will desire that the Earth '' Tiamat ' be made equal ( destroyed ) with them . And they will not be able to hide their ( Hadiythaann Tales - The Kafir also have a Hadith they try to hide ) , from The Source Allah . ( He will know all that they have said ) .

Holy Qur'aan 4 ; 140 , Revealed In The Year 625 - 627 A.D. Al Nisaa ( The Enosite Women ) . Where It States And inded He sent down upon you all , in the Scripture ( Qur'aan ); that when you hear The Source Allah's signs ( verses of the Qur'aan ) being concealed and mocked at , so don't squat ( sit ) with those ( Enosites who concealed the facts about the Qur'aan ) ; until they enter unto other terms ( The Sources Hadiyth - Tales - ( the Qur'aan ) . If you don't , then indeed you would be like them .Surely , The Source , Allah will gather all the hypocrites , ( those who were peaceful ones , and then turned back from real Islaam , the Millat Abrawhawm ) , and all those who conceal what they know to be the facts ( and made up this new Islaam , in Jahannam '' Hell '' all together .

Hadiyth comes from the word Hadatha meaning '' Existence , Began To Be ; Had A Beginning . Began , Or Originate , Existed Newly For The First Time '' , It plural is < Ahaadiyth - aramic > . Ahaadiyth are supposedly records of actions , Utterances and Customs of The Prophet Muhammad ; Any action done in his presence and the presence of his Conpanions . As the Qur'aan / Koran didn't give details on certain practical matters , The Faithful , The Followers of Muhamma , Thus , When confronted with a situation in which a certain decision was necessary .

Men would relate what The Prophet Muhammad did in the same or similar case . The most reliable narrator's account would be accepted . As time went on many such narrations were collected and written down by several writers ; Hence , Forthforming patterns for future generations . However , Unscrupulous Men , Seeking to advance their own ideals and cause Disunity in the communities , Also produced their own versions of ( Hadiyth ) . It became necessary to record the Ahaadiyth according to the reliability of both the narrator and the transmitter .

The authenticity of transmission became an entirely separate subject and even in this , there were still many Disagreements . In all the Hadiyth has caused much Sectism in Islaam ; And the Qur'aan / Koran itself even ststes , '' Not To Form Into Sects ,

Holy Qur'aan 6 ; 159 ,Revealed In The Year 627 A.D. Al Anaam ( The Cattle ) Where It States ; Surely , those who divided their Diyn Means Of Judgement , and became many < Shiya'aan ' Things , Sunni , ****e , Wahhabi , Ahmadiyyah Etc Etc , You should not be of any of them in the things they became . Surely all their affairs are with Allah , Then he will inform them of what they did .

And The Qur'aan , Koran is the best Hadiyth , Qur'aan 4 ; 87 , Revealed In The Year 625 - 627 A.D. Al Nisaa ( The Enosite Women ) . Where It States , The source has the best of Hadiyths .
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Old 08-07-2012, 12:23 AM   #14
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Hadeeth = Only Word's Men and not fron Allah , Any Hadeeth that are not back up by The Holy Qur'aan means nothing .

Holy Qur'aan ( Revealed In The Year 625 - 627 A.D. ) Al Nisaa ~ The Enosite Women ) . 4 ; 87 , Where It States ; The Source , Allah ; No Ilaaha ( Allahs ) Sources Would Exist , Except By Way Of Him -The Creative Force Of Will ) He Will Gather You All , Unto A Day Of Resurrection . There Is No Doubt In It , And Who Is More < Asadaqu - arabic > '' Truthful '' , Than Allahs ( Hadiyth -Tale , Not Man's Hadiyth ) .
Stop blaspheming, hadith of Rasulullah is not any MAN, "he speaks neither from his Hawaa".
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:37 AM   #15
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Stop blaspheming, hadith of Rasulullah is not any MAN, "he speaks neither from his Hawaa".
Picking out certain part of my post doesn't change athing . Only chapter & verse from the Holy Qur'aan speak the truth not words of men meaning any Hadeeth not back up with the Holy Qur'aan is a waste of time
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Old 08-07-2012, 06:20 AM   #16
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And your understanding is the understanding of a man so.... what is your point???

We as Sunni Muslims consider hadith to be the understanding of the Quran... and you to have a particular understanding of the Quran... So the hadith comes from a man... Your understanding comes from a man as well... Why should I follow your understanding of the Quran over the hadith if they both come from a man????

What gives your understanding superiority over someone else's understanding????
The word's of Allahu Subhaanahu Wa Ta'Ala Over Ride any Hadeeth , Unless it back up with The Holy Qur'aan , That's my Superiority . You being Sunni doesn't Impress me at All .
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Old 08-07-2012, 06:42 AM   #17
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Picking out certain part of my post doesn't change athing . Only chapter & verse from the Holy Qur'aan speak the truth not words of men meaning any Hadeeth not back up with the Holy Qur'aan is a waste of time
How do you know how to pray brother?
I don't think a full description of the actions of Salat is in the Quran - so what do you do?
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Old 08-07-2012, 06:52 AM   #18
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How do you know how to pray brother?
I don't think a full description of the actions of Salat is in the Quran - so what do you do?
What does that have to do with this Post ?
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:33 AM   #19
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What does that even mean???

Is it your understanding of the Quran overrides your understanding of the hadith?

Perhaps you can give an example of what you mean??? Provide a hadith and then provide the Quranic verse that overrides it...
That my point all then are nothing but words of men not of Allahu Subhaanahu Wa Ta'Ala . If you knew the Qur'aan you would know this alread plus they're 1000's of Hadeeth from diffrent Sect of Muslims they're more then 82 diffrent sect of muslim so if you think you said something slick you didn't .
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:41 AM   #20
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Do you know Arabic???
Again What does that have to do with this Post ?
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