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Old 03-15-2012, 05:43 PM   #21
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Asalamu Alaikum,

Don't know about Bashar al Assad but I've read the coming of Sufyani too..its in Qiyamah Jannah Jahannum (most prob. in Bahishti Zewar) by Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi (ra)..

"..At that time, a person from the progeny of Abu Sufyân will be born. He will kill many sayyids and exercise his power and rule over Syria and Egypt.."

Links to the above qoute:

http://www.jamiaashrafia.org/bahisht...Of%20Qiy%C2mah

http://www.nazmay.com/wordpress/isla...ah-jahanum.pdf

Wassalamu Alaikum
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:43 AM   #22
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Salam brothers and sisters

I've been reading a lot about this subject and the events leading to the end of times as described by our prophet Muhammad SAW and an interesting theory comes to mind.*

First some findings.*
1. The Arab spring sets the scene for the arrival of imam al Mahdi who will rule over the Arabs from Madinah.*
2. Note that the Sunni version of al Mahdi differs greatly from that of the shiah and if you read carefully about the shiah description you can see that their version will have special powers such as to raise the dead. Almost godlike. I got a shock when I read this.*
3. Question is whether the shiah will accept a Sunni Mahdi given that it's very different from the Sunni Mahdi. Chances are not many will.*
4. Interestingly the prophet said al Mahdi will rule over the Arab not all Muslims which may exclude the Persian or Iranians.*
5. The prophet also said that dajjal will come from the east supported by 70,000 Jews from Isfahan with Persian shawls. Wow !!! What is this suppose to mean?
6. Also the Mahdi will bring prosperity such that there's literally no poor which is very different from the state of affairs that you see over the Arabs from morocco all the way to Iraq. Arabs are very distinctive.*
7. The story of zulqarnain pinpoints who is yajuj majuj. The most plausible candidate for zulqarnain is Cyrus the great and many now think that yajuj majuj are the khazar tribes residing in north of the caucuses. These khazar people subsequently converted to Judaism and are the forefathers of the askhenazi Jews who make up 95% of Jews worldwide. Chances are they are the yajuj majuj very different from bani Israel and these askhenazi Jews now control Israel and Jerusalem.*
8. Many believe that shiah originated from a jew who purposely converted to plant the doctrine that ali is divine just like what Paul did for christianity.


So could it be that :

1. The Arab spring creates a power vacuum in almost all the Arab countries
2. The death of king Abdullah in Saudi creates a bigger hole
3. Al Mahdi appears in Madinah as the prophet says and gets baiah in Mecca.*
4. The only Arab state that will not submit baiah to him will be Syria ruled by the sufyani - Bashar al Assad
5. Assad sends an army to Mecca to depose al*Mahdi but gets swollowed by the earth
6. Al Mahdi rules the Arab world from Madinah with justice and bring economic prosperity to the Arabs by implementing Allah's laws.*
7. The shiah does not accept his rule as the character differs from what they expect of their Mahdi
8. 7 years into the mahdi's rule, a man appears in Iran claiming to be the shiah messiah backed and supported by the Jews in Isfahan.*
9. There will a great battle between the Sunni and shiah over the two harams one led by the Mahdi and the other led by dajjal, the false messiah. The rest of the world looks on not wanting to intervene a so called civil war between "Muslims"
10. On the 9th year prophet Isa AS appears in Damascus which caused the dajjal to flee to Israel. Remember the Jews never accepted Isa AS as a prophet of god.*
11. The Muslim army invades Israel and kills dajjal in lut but this leads to a brutal war between Muslims and yajuj majuj (Ashkenazi) controlled Israel.*
12. The final battle is fought in jabal tur which many now believe is in north east Saudi with a modern name called jabal al lawz or the mount of almonds.*
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:47 AM   #23
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Please look up Abd Allah ibn Sabaʾ al-Ḥimyarī and his role in setting up the shiah movement.

This is taken from Wikipedia.

Abd Allah ibn Sabaʾ al-Ḥimyarī (or "Sabāʾ", also sometimes called ibn al-Sawdāʾ, ibn Wahb, or ibn Ḥarb)[1] was a 7th-century figure in Islamic history who may or may not have had an actual historical existence and often associated with a group of followers called the Sabaʾiyya.

Modern historical view, is not clear what historical person or persons lay behind this figure.[1] It is believed that Abdulah Ibn Saba may have been actually several figures(e.g. Hodgson), semi legendary (Caetani, Momen Moojan), or legendary and fictional (Taha Hussein, Ali al-Wardi, Bernard Lewis, Wilferd Madelung, Askari)[2] but Israel Friedlander and Sabatino Moscati affirm his existence.[2] His Jewish origin has also been contested and he was not probably Jewish. Except Taha Hussein and inspired by theological and communal sentiments rather than by logic, most modern Sunni writers either repeat or reinterpret the ideas ascribed to Ibn Saba' in later sources. In a similar vain, all Shia writers argue that Ibn Saba' is not a historical figure to rid Shi'aism of the old accusation by their adversaries that it was originally based on Judaic doctrines.[3] Modern Muslim writers also tend to discredit Tabari's account of Ibn Saba as "sheer fiction".[4][dubious – discuss] Regarding his importance in killing of Othman and introducing Shi'a is disputed as surer sources other than Tabari exclude him from any major role. Modern historians assert that Sayf fabricated the episode about killing of Uthman to "exonerate the people of Medina from participation in the caliph's murder".

According to Tabari, based on traditions collected by Sayf ibn Umar, Ibn Saba' was a Yemenite Jew who embraced Islam. During the time of Ali ibn Abi Taleb, he introduced a number of concepts that later were ascribed to more extreme factions of Shia Islam, or ghulat. According to these traditions, the exaltation of Ali, his divine appointment by the Islamic prophet Muhammad as a successor, the concept of ghayba and return (rajʿa) were first formulated and expressed by Ibn Sabaʾ and his followers (the Sabaʾiyya).[3][1][5] He and his followers are sometimes said to be the ones who enticed the Egyptians against Uthman on the ground of Ali's special right of succession, and participated in further instigation at later conflicts.[1]

In Shia' views, the claim that Ibn Saba' as a convert Jew is the founder of Shia is propaganda. Although the existence of Abdullah Ibn Saba' is seriously under question, even if such a person existed, the stories propagated about this person are legendary, false, fabricated, and fictitious. In traditional Shi'a sources, he is sometimes viewed as an extremist Shia (ghulat), himself cursed by Jaʿfar al-Ṣādiq. Nevertheless, Ibn Sabaʾ became the subject of a tradition used by different Shia factions to both attack and defend extreme Shia groups. According to this tradition, and depending on the different interpretations, Ali either burned or exiled him and his followers for declaring Ali as God.[1]
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:04 PM   #24
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Al-Harith bin Abdullah said:*" A man from the progeny of Abi Sufyan comes out, from the drought valley, with (an army carrying)*red banners. He has thin arms and thin legs, with long neck, very yellowish (meaning pale) in complexion, on him (can be seen) the mark or sign of worship."*(Nuaim bin Hammad'sKitab Al-Fitan)

http://www.discoveringislam.org/signs_before_mahdi.htm
are we thinking of the same one???!!!

this is funny as when someone said Mulla Omar is the Dajjal

I have a more sensible proposition - he is really hitler - just look how he waves http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...QEwBg&dur=3222
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:25 PM   #25
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are we thinking of the same one???!!!

this is funny as when someone said Mulla Omar is the Dajjal

I have a more sensible proposition - he is really hitler - just look how he waves http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...QEwBg&dur=3222
now I have recovered from the shock of reading this post I have to say, really he is a bit like him isn't he, I think I was wrong before to reject the idea

if he hold onto power for a long time (Allah save us from this) - maybe he would take on the full appearance too InshaAllah.
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:49 PM   #26
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Salaam Brother Qamar Ariff,


My research also revealed what you described in your post. I got really shocked when I found that the history of Khazar tribe before 6th century is mysteriously missing. Our Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon in him) was born in 6th century and he passed away in 7th century. It seems that
the hadith about his dream on Yajuj & Majuj’s digging out hole is very much authentic. Allah said that they are exceptionally strong and it’s only
Allah who can defeat them. Research shows that the people of Khazar tribe are genetically more intelligent than the rest of the mankind although
they have become ethnically diversified. Googling the lists famous people of the tribe really prove that.







Salam brothers and sisters

I've been reading a lot about this subject and the events leading to the end of times as described by our prophet Muhammad SAW and an interesting theory comes to mind.*

First some findings.*
1. The Arab spring sets the scene for the arrival of imam al Mahdi who will rule over the Arabs from Madinah.*
2. Note that the Sunni version of al Mahdi differs greatly from that of the ****e and if you read carefully about the ****e description you can see that their version will have special powers such as to raise the dead. Almost godlike. I got a shock when I read this.*
3. Question is whether the ****e will accept a Sunni Mahdi given that it's very different from the Sunni Mahdi. Chances are not many will.*
4. Interestingly the prophet said al Mahdi will rule over the Arab not all Muslims which may exclude the Persian or Iranians.*
5. The prophet also said that dajjal will come from the east supported by 70,000 Jews from Isfahan with Persian shawls. Wow !!! What is this suppose to mean?
6. Also the Mahdi will bring prosperity such that there's literally no poor which is very different from the state of affairs that you see over the Arabs from morocco all the way to Iraq. Arabs are very distinctive.*
7. The story of zulqarnain pinpoints who is yajuj majuj. The most plausible candidate for zulqarnain is Cyrus the great and many now think that yajuj majuj are the khazar tribes residing in north of the caucuses. These khazar people subsequently converted to Judaism and are the forefathers of the askhenazi Jews who make up 95% of Jews worldwide. Chances are they are the yajuj majuj very different from bani Israel and these askhenazi Jews now control Israel and Jerusalem.*

So could it be that :

1. The Arab spring creates a power vacuum in almost all the Arab countries
2. The death of king Abdullah in Saudi creates a bigger hole
3. Al Mahdi appears in Madinah as the prophet says and gets baiah in Mecca.*
4. The only Arab state that will not submit baiah to him will be Syria ruled by the sufyani - Bashar al Assad
5. Assad sends an army to Mecca to depose al*Mahdi but gets swollowed by the earth
6. Al Mahdi rules the Arab world from Madinah with justice and bring economic prosperity to the Arabs by implementing Allah's laws.*
7. The ****e does not accept his rule as the character differs from what they expect of their Mahdi
8. 7 years into the mahdi's rule, a man appears in Iran claiming to be the ****e messiah backed and supported by the Jews in Isfahan.*
9. There will a great battle between the Sunni and ****e over the two harams one led by the Mahdi and the other led by dajjal, the false messiah. The rest of the world looks on not wanting to intervene a so called civil war between "Muslims"
10. On the 9th year prophet Isa AS appears in Damascus which caused the dajjal to flee to Israel. Remember the Jews never accepted Isa AS as a prophet of god.*
11. The Muslim army invades Israel and kills dajjal in lut but this leads to a brutal war between Muslims and yajuj majuj (Ashkenazi) controlled Israel.*
12. The final battle is fought in jabal tur which many now believe is in north east Saudi with a modern name called jabal al lawz or the mount of almonds.*
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Old 06-13-2012, 11:11 PM   #27
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:O i thought there would be one mehdi only ?? will there be two mehdis ?
the shia mahdi AKA the DAJJAL!!!
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Old 06-13-2012, 11:23 PM   #28
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Salam brothers and sisters

I've been reading a lot about this subject and the events leading to the end of times as described by our prophet Muhammad SAW and an interesting theory comes to mind.*

First some findings.*
1. The Arab spring sets the scene for the arrival of imam al Mahdi who will rule over the Arabs from Madinah.*
2. Note that the Sunni version of al Mahdi differs greatly from that of the ****e and if you read carefully about the ****e description you can see that their version will have special powers such as to raise the dead. Almost godlike. I got a shock when I read this.*
3. Question is whether the ****e will accept a Sunni Mahdi given that it's very different from the Sunni Mahdi. Chances are not many will.*
4. Interestingly the prophet said al Mahdi will rule over the Arab not all Muslims which may exclude the Persian or Iranians.*
5. The prophet also said that dajjal will come from the east supported by 70,000 Jews from Isfahan with Persian shawls. Wow !!! What is this suppose to mean?
6. Also the Mahdi will bring prosperity such that there's literally no poor which is very different from the state of affairs that you see over the Arabs from morocco all the way to Iraq. Arabs are very distinctive.*
7. The story of zulqarnain pinpoints who is yajuj majuj. The most plausible candidate for zulqarnain is Cyrus the great and many now think that yajuj majuj are the khazar tribes residing in north of the caucuses. These khazar people subsequently converted to Judaism and are the forefathers of the askhenazi Jews who make up 95% of Jews worldwide. Chances are they are the yajuj majuj very different from bani Israel and these askhenazi Jews now control Israel and Jerusalem.*

So could it be that :

1. The Arab spring creates a power vacuum in almost all the Arab countries
2. The death of king Abdullah in Saudi creates a bigger hole
3. Al Mahdi appears in Madinah as the prophet says and gets baiah in Mecca.*
4. The only Arab state that will not submit baiah to him will be Syria ruled by the sufyani - Bashar al Assad
5. Assad sends an army to Mecca to depose al*Mahdi but gets swollowed by the earth
6. Al Mahdi rules the Arab world from Madinah with justice and bring economic prosperity to the Arabs by implementing Allah's laws.*
7. The ****e does not accept his rule as the character differs from what they expect of their Mahdi
8. 7 years into the mahdi's rule, a man appears in Iran claiming to be the ****e messiah backed and supported by the Jews in Isfahan.*
9. There will a great battle between the Sunni and ****e over the two harams one led by the Mahdi and the other led by dajjal, the false messiah. The rest of the world looks on not wanting to intervene a so called civil war between "Muslims"
10. On the 9th year prophet Isa AS appears in Damascus which caused the dajjal to flee to Israel. Remember the Jews never accepted Isa AS as a prophet of god.*
11. The Muslim army invades Israel and kills dajjal in lut but this leads to a brutal war between Muslims and yajuj majuj (Ashkenazi) controlled Israel.*
12. The final battle is fought in jabal tur which many now believe is in north east Saudi with a modern name called jabal al lawz or the mount of almonds.*
I mostly agree except point 9 as dajjal rules teh world and can enter everywhere except the haramayn and travels round teh world rapidly
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Old 06-13-2012, 11:26 PM   #29
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also dont forget teh dajjal doesnt come out till muslims conquer rome inshallah
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