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Old 04-16-2012, 12:04 PM   #1
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Default Help for the Salik - Feeling Dirty


Yesterday I had a wonderful conversation with one of my Mashaikh (may Allah give him aafiya). I told him about me wanting to call my Shaykh (db) but feeling too dirty (full of sins) that i didnt call and put it off for another time. Again, next time same feeling, same thing. So calling Shaykh (db) has been put off for sometime.

This feeling of being "dirty" affects most Saalikeen.

Below is his reply, i thought it might benefit people:

Strange syndrome
A man full of dirt was standing in front of a river
Saying
I wish I was clean enough to clean my dirt with your pure water
The river replied
Come inside me whatever you are
And my water will clean you in an instant



The more dirty you are, the more you need to talk to your Shaikh



Concentrate more on your Mamoolat
One goes ahead through Mamoolat
Even the Suhba of Shaikh works for those who are regular in Mamoolat
Otherwise the Faiz comes from Shaikh, but does not stay
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Old 04-16-2012, 12:54 PM   #2
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what is terms and conditions to maintain company of shaykh for woman, specialy when shaykh is not in the same city?
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:00 PM   #3
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The topic of how Women should benefit from a Shaykh has been discussed in some detail in another thread. I hope someone can post the link here.

For women, Suhbat is listening to his bayans, reading his books, reading books recommended by him, writing regularly.

When you write, your Mahram should read it, sign it and then he should send it to Shaykh. If its email, you forward it to Mahram, he reads and forwards to Shaykh, Shaykh replies to Mahram, he reads reply and forwards to you. This is the best.
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:05 PM   #4
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i ll try to search the theard
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:12 PM   #5
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dear respected brother ahlezikr db I have a slight query. I was reading a book by hazrat hakeem akhtar saab db where many ladies are writing many private details e.g. their attraction towards the opposite gender etc and in there one lady writes that she is always scared that somebody will intercept the post and read her letter and obviously the letter contains things like the sister not being able to control her gaze etc. If the mahram reads this this could cause family problems etc. In there hazrat hakim akhtar db writes that nobody else should read the letter....can somebody clarify please. I mean if somebody hears the kind of stuff I tell my shaykh then I would be left with no friends and for most people this would be the case I think. Also the most perfect islaah can only happen when one is open with one's shaykh.
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:28 PM   #6
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dear respected brother ahlezikr db I have a slight query. I was reading a book by hazrat hakeem akhtar saab db where many ladies are writing many private details e.g. their attraction towards the opposite gender etc and in there one lady writes that she is always scared that somebody will intercept the post and read her letter and obviously the letter contains things like the sister not being able to control her gaze etc. If the mahram reads this this could cause family problems etc. In there hazrat hakim akhtar db writes that nobody else should read the letter....can somebody clarify please. I mean if somebody hears the kind of stuff I tell my shaykh then I would be left with no friends and for most people this would be the case I think. Also the most perfect islaah can only happen when one is open with one's shaykh.


I understand what you are saying. In this day and age, it is recommended to follow the Usool i outlined. It is Hazrat Thanvi (rah)'s method. We have seen too many problems when there is direct contact.

Also, for women, it is not the tarteeb for men. Their islah is done faster and by simple methods alhamdulillah.

For someone of the stature of the Shaykh (db) you mentioned, it might be okay to have direct communication. But generally I think it should be discouraged. Some Shuyookh are contactable through their Wives, which is a very good option.
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Old 04-16-2012, 02:13 PM   #7
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Shaikh London,
My Shaikh (DB) told that some of the things should not put on paper.
When it is said that some things should not be put on paper then it implies that there are some things that are for verbal communication only.
And then there is a danger from other side also.
There were some girls who were talking to a Mufti and they kept asking such questions that he ultimately said that put your questions in writing in a letter and then I shall answer them - he just could not put up with the frankness of the queries.
Clearly there is a devil and deep sea situation and delicate balance might be required in some cases.
May Allah(SWT) grant us all 'aafiya.
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Old 04-16-2012, 03:37 PM   #8
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will it not be enough if the male mahram of the saalika gives permission to her initially to write or phone the shaikh and later she continues directly, particularly when she has to discuss something which can cause the mahram to get upset (may be about his own disobedience or mistreatment to her)?
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Old 04-16-2012, 04:04 PM   #9
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will it not be enough if the male mahram of the saalika gives permission to her initially to write or phone the shaikh and later she continues directly, particularly when she has to discuss something which can cause the mahram to get upset (may be about his own disobedience or mistreatment to her)?

In the end i guess it depends on the Shaykh. Some Mashaikh like Hazrat Thanvi (rah)'s view, others dont mind their Mureedas speaking to them directly.
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Old 04-16-2012, 05:14 PM   #10
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Concentrate more on your Mamoolat
One goes ahead through Mamoolat
Even the Suhba of Shaikh works for those who are regular in Mamoolat
Otherwise the Faiz comes from Shaikh, but does not stay
So,mamulat have to do with faiz coming from shaykh, which (faiz )help saalika for islah,
then saalika should to be more cognizant and regular with her prescribed mamulat.
If I think this way, this way she can benefits as well likely to male saalik who attain personally majaleesh of shaykh ,what I assumed is righteous,?
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Old 04-16-2012, 06:22 PM   #11
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So,mamulat have to do with faiz coming from shaykh, which (faiz )help saalika for islah,
then saalika should to be more cognizant and regular with her prescribed mamulat.
If I think this way, this way she can benefits as well likely to male saalik who attain personally majaleesh of shaykh ,what I assumed is righteous,?

Yes, you are thinking correctly. If Shaykh lives close and your Mahram can take you to a Majlis monthly even, its an added plus
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