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bahrains27 02-25-2012 07:44 AM

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My Brother in Islam, Do yourself a big favor, please learn International Politics and special interest groups /Lobbies and act like a mature brother. Thank you
DO yourself a favor and learn Islam and realize how much of a deviant you are especially supporting al-Asad = Kufr.

Hsmrcahr 02-25-2012 08:02 PM

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The Stalemate in the power struggle in Syria has pushed the government to escalate its crackdown on rebel-held areas while making the rebels ever more determined to hold on. And it has prompted the Arab League and its western backers to announce financial and material assistance for insurgents.

Their announcement, however, was misleading. For several months now money and arms have been flowing semi-clandestinely to local militias and the “Free Syrian Army”, composed of army deserters. Insurgents are, reportedly, being provided with modern weapons and night-vision and communications equipment, and are being reinforced by veteran fighters from Iraq and Libya, some with al-Qaeda connections.

Arming insurgents is certain to prolong the conflict in Syria and is already transforming what had been campaigning to topple the regime by means of mass protest into a full-scale civil war that could engulf neighbouring Iraq, Lebanon and Jordan, and destablise Turkey.

Arab Spring uprisings have been hijacked by the well-organised Muslim Brotherhood and ultraorthodox Salafis. The latter adhere to the puritanical Wahhabism practised in Saudi Arabia, the font and financier of militant Sunni fundamentalism.

The struggle for Syria is becoming increasingly polarised between East and West, with Russia and China supporting the regime and the US, Salafis and Europe the opposition.
Rawafid once again trying to divide the Muslims (Salafis or "Madhhabi" Sunnis) by saying that it's only "salafi wahhabis" fighting Shi'ah and making takfir of them.
This is not so, this is filthy Shia propaganda trying to win over Sunnis through anti-Salafi propaganda.

Further, Salafis are 1 million times better than Shias: at least, they are Muslims; Rawafid (Alawis on top of them) are not.

May Allah grant complete victory to Syrian Mujahidin (be them Sunnis or Salafis) against Alawi and Ba'athist kuffar, amin.

Pdarassenko 02-25-2012 11:18 PM

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rawafid once again trying to divide the muslims (salafis or "madhhabi" sunnis) by saying that it's only "salafi wahhabis" fighting shi'ah and making takfir of them.
This is not so, this is filthy shia propaganda trying to win over sunnis through anti-salafi propaganda.

Further, salafis are 1 million times better than shias: At least, they are muslims; rawafid (alawis on top of them) are not.

may allah grant complete victory to syrian mujahidin (be them sunnis or salafis) against alawi and ba'athist kuffar, amin.
"the ignorant man does not understand the learned for he has never been learned himself." (78ah427)-----hazrat ali (as)

Pdarassenko 02-25-2012 11:25 PM

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DO yourself a favor and learn Islam and realize how much of a deviant you are especially supporting al-Asad = Kufr.
" He who is able to refrain from the following four things deserves never to be afflicted by Adversity, which are: Haste, Argumentation, Conceit, and Lethargy." (78AH427)--Hazrat Ali (as)

Pdarassenko 02-25-2012 11:31 PM

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you keep telling people to learn about international politics, but what about shi'a politics against the ummah?

Seriously, when any of shi'a keep telling other about "unity" slogan, then how the heck the sunnis are executed in Iran, and sunnis are not allowed to have even one mosque in tehran, of which has over 100 mosques within its district?

Have you ever read scholars refutations about why shi'a is considered misguided and some of them considered as out of Islam?

Forget politics for a moment. Let's save ourselves first. If you follow shi'a just because it's a tradition in your family, probably it's about time to study arguments from both sides?

You should understand that every Muslim loves ahlul bayt, not just shi'a. However, sunnis won't go and slander and create fitna against sahaba, and we sunnis know for a fact that we don't have the full knowldge to judge anything about what happened between Ali http://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/anhu.gif and Muawiyyah http://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/anhu.gif, as such it's better to leave the judgement to Allah http://discussworldissues.com/forums...lies/taala.gif regarding that. Even the Prophet http://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/pbuh.gif reminded us about the feud that will happen are between the Muslims, not between Muslims and non-believers or those whom have left the religion.
" Islam is submission and Submission is trust, Trust is faith and Faith is acceptance, Acceptance is responsibility and Responsibility is Work."----Hazrat Ali (as)

KukkoDrukko 02-25-2012 11:32 PM

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" He who is able to refrain from the following four things deserves never to be afflicted by Adversity, which are: Haste, Argumentation, Conceit, and Lethargy." (78AH427)--Hazrat Ali (as)
still doing taaqiyyah to further "true Islam" political agenda? Btw which imam actually legalized taqiyyah? How did he derived this taqiyyah from the sunnah of the Prophet http://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/pbuh.gif?

you should read and response to all the dalils here (from both sunni and shi'a books); http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-Twelver-Shias

KukkoDrukko 02-25-2012 11:41 PM

on another note;

"Iran opposed to any military action in Syria"

link: http://news.yahoo.com/iran-opposed-m...154813869.html

"Iran reaffirmed Saturday its opposition to any military intervention in Syria, after an international conference suggested sending an Arab force to Tehran's ally to subdue ongoing bloodshed.

Iran "rejects any kind of military intervention in Syrian affairs," a foreign ministry statement said.

Tehran also "denies rumours of (its) sending arms and militarily intervening in Syria as a sheer lie," as charged by the West."


except that Iran's naval fleet just got back from Syria a few days ago.

Pdarassenko 02-26-2012 12:24 AM

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Brother hatelife, no offense intended but maybe you should not say that to the brother, you don't know him, his aqeedah or whether he is a Rafidite or not.

Only Allah knows who is going to hell.

If he supports the tyrant Assad he may not even a Muslim, but rather an Alawite agent of the Syrian government, but that is between him and Allah.

Also maybe it not nice to curse an army that has lost much blood defending Lebanon against Israeli expansionism, whether it has faults or not.
Brother in Islam, Salmun-Alay-Kum, "Value of each man depends upon the art and skill which he has attained".---Hazrat Ali (as)

Pdarassenko 02-26-2012 12:30 AM

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on another note;

"Iran opposed to any military action in Syria"

link: http://news.yahoo.com/iran-opposed-m...154813869.html

"Iran reaffirmed Saturday its opposition to any military intervention in Syria, after an international conference suggested sending an Arab force to Tehran's ally to subdue ongoing bloodshed.

Iran "rejects any kind of military intervention in Syrian affairs," a foreign ministry statement said.

Tehran also "denies rumours of (its) sending arms and militarily intervening in Syria as a sheer lie," as charged by the West."


except that Iran's naval fleet just got back from Syria a few days ago.
"One who imagines himself to be all knowing will surely suffer on account of his ignorance"---Hazrat Ali (as)

Pdarassenko 02-26-2012 12:34 AM

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still doing taaqiyyah to further "true Islam" political agenda? Btw which imam actually legalized taqiyyah? How did he derived this taqiyyah from the sunnah of the Prophet http://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/pbuh.gif?

you should read and response to all the dalils here (from both sunni and shi'a books); http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-Twelver-Shias
"Like your body your mind also get tired and fagged ; in such case find educational diversion for it".-------Imam Ali (as)

Pdarassenko 02-26-2012 01:05 AM

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DO yourself a favor and learn Islam and realize how much of a deviant you are especially supporting al-Asad = Kufr.
"Acquire wisdom and truth from whomever you can, because even an apostate can have them, but unless they are passed over to a faithful Muslim and become part of wisdom and truth that he possesses, they have a confused existence in the minds of apostate".------Imam Ali (as)

KukkoDrukko 02-26-2012 05:35 AM

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"Acquire wisdom and truth from whomever you can, because even an apostate can have them, but unless they are passed over to a faithful Muslim and become part of wisdom and truth that he possesses, they have a confused existence in the minds of apostate".------Imam Ali (as)
you can be honest and speak your mind here. Isn't it hard to keep doing taqiyyah all the time? There's a reason why some wise people say the truth is liberating and honesty is the best policy. And http://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/insh.gif true Muslims who practice true Islam wouldn't have that burden to keep lying to people around him and don't have to be slippery like a snake with some hidden agenda because the aim of a true Muslim is to emulate the manners and characters of the beloved Prophet http://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/pbuh.gif http://discussworldissues.com/forums...icon_smile.gif..

chuviskkk 02-26-2012 10:16 AM

Abu Hurairah Radiallahu Anhu has narrated that the Prophet (sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam) said, 'A man will emerge from the depths of Damascus. He will be called Sufyani. Most of those who follow him will be from the tribe of Kalb. He will kill by ripping the stomachs of women and even kill the children. A man from my family will appear in the Haram, the news of his advent will reach the Sufyani and he will send to him one of his armies. He (referring to Imam Mahdi) will defeat them. They will then travel with whoever remains until they come to a desert and they will be swallowed. None will be saved except the one who had informed the others about them.' [Mustadrak of Imam Haakim, 8586, authentic upon conditions of shaikhain]

Insha Allah the time of Imam Mahdi's appearance is at hand. Look at the fitnah of bashar al assad, who is slaughtering the Muslim women and children in Syria. We should pray to Allah to deliver the people of Syria from this massacre.

Pdarassenko 02-26-2012 03:53 PM

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Abu Hurairah Radiallahu Anhu has narrated that the Prophet (sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam) said, 'A man will emerge from the depths of Damascus. He will be called Sufyani. Most of those who follow him will be from the tribe of Kalb. He will kill by ripping the stomachs of women and even kill the children. A man from my family will appear in the Haram, the news of his advent will reach the Sufyani and he will send to him one of his armies. He (referring to Imam Mahdi) will defeat them. They will then travel with whoever remains until they come to a desert and they will be swallowed. None will be saved except the one who had informed the others about them.' [Mustadrak of Imam Haakim, 8586, authentic upon conditions of shaikhain]

Insha Allah the time of Imam Mahdi's appearance is at hand. Look at the fitnah of bashar al assad, who is slaughtering the Muslim women and children in Syria. We should pray to Allah to deliver the people of Syria from this massacre.
Man is a wonderful creature; "He sees through the layers of fat (eyes), hears through a bone (ears) and speaks through a lump of flesh (tongue)".--------Imam Ali (as)

KukkoDrukko 02-26-2012 03:56 PM

so reza,

are you with assad?

You can be honest about it.

Pdarassenko 02-26-2012 04:00 PM

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Abu Hurairah Radiallahu Anhu has narrated that the Prophet (sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam) said, 'A man will emerge from the depths of Damascus. He will be called Sufyani. Most of those who follow him will be from the tribe of Kalb. He will kill by ripping the stomachs of women and even kill the children. A man from my family will appear in the Haram, the news of his advent will reach the Sufyani and he will send to him one of his armies. He (referring to Imam Mahdi) will defeat them. They will then travel with whoever remains until they come to a desert and they will be swallowed. None will be saved except the one who had informed the others about them.' [Mustadrak of Imam Haakim, 8586, authentic upon conditions of shaikhain]

Insha Allah the time of Imam Mahdi's appearance is at hand. Look at the fitnah of bashar al assad, who is slaughtering the Muslim women and children in Syria. We should pray to Allah to deliver the people of Syria from this massacre.
Man is a wonderful creature; "He sees through the layers of fat (eyes), hears through a bone (ears) and speaks through a lump of flesh (tongue)".--------Imam Ali (as)

Pdarassenko 02-26-2012 04:04 PM

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so reza,

are you with assad?

You can be honest about it.
No I am not at all.
"Every person who is tempted to go astray, does not deserve punishment".-----Imam Ali (as)

KukkoDrukko 02-26-2012 04:15 PM

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No I am not at all.
"Every person who is tempted to go astray, does not deserve punishment".-----Imam Ali (as)
since your other article from a different forum was posted here and made known to the members here, you may come out clean about 250 millions of True Muslims and your political aims. If you agree that alawites are not Muslims that as we know even khomenei made takfeer on them, then shouldn't you support the people of Syria and to mobilize hezbollah and all other groups to support the Muslims there?

I'm not sure if you're interested to reply to the thread regarding sunnis vs rafidis; link: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-Twelver-Shias

and there are various videos on the aqeedah issues of the rafidis (one of them: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...l=1#post728646)

If you're on haqq, you wouldn't try to hide anything and would tell it as it is, as haqq will shine over bathil every time http://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/insh.gif.

Honest advice, you should study arguments from both sides about the deen and the foundation of the deen, as ultimately we all will be held accountable for our own choices.

You do realize that the persians before has produced many big names and high calibre sunni ulama which is very influential till today, right? But if you start mixing nationalism with deen and to come out with your own version of the deen, then it'll be hard for any other Muslim to take you seriously.

Pdarassenko 02-26-2012 04:20 PM

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" Islam is submission and Submission is trust, Trust is faith and Faith is acceptance, Acceptance is responsibility and Responsibility is Work."----Hazrat Ali (as)
----"For those who refused to side with any party, Imam Ali or his enemies, Imam Ali said: They have forsaken religion and are of no use to infidelity also".------Hazrat Ali (Karam-allaho-Wajaho)

KukkoDrukko 02-26-2012 04:25 PM

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----"For those who refused to side with any party, Imam Ali or his enemies, Imam Ali said: They have forsaken religion and are of no use to infidelity also".------Hazrat Ali (Karam-allaho-Wajaho)
All sunni ulama have agreed that Ali was right in Ali vs Muawiyah case, however we sunni don't judge the big case as this by ourselves driven by just emotions and hearsay without clear proofs and would let the case to be judged by Allah http://discussworldissues.com/forums...lies/taala.gif Himself. Especially when the Prophet http://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/pbuh.gif clearly indicated that the fights was between two Muslim groups, not between Muslims and those who left Islam, or Muslims vs mushrikeen.

Are you more knowldgeable than Allah http://discussworldissues.com/forums...lies/taala.gif to hand down any judgement towards any of the companions of the Prophet http://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/pbuh.gif of whom Allah http://discussworldissues.com/forums...lies/taala.gif has indicated in the Quran that He Allah http://discussworldissues.com/forums...lies/taala.gif is pleased with them?


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