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Old 08-10-2011, 01:22 PM   #1
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Assalamu alaikum,

I have some issues going on for which I need advice. I looked on the internet and on this forum but haven't found the answers relevant to my particular situation.

I have some embarassing questions but I am getting so frustrated that it affects my worship. I would greatly appreciate your help and understanding.

1. Very frequently I have this feeling that I passed gas. It's just a feeling that a tiny little bubble just passed. It's very very minute but happens very often. No noise or smell, not even an actual feeling of passing gas like one would normally have. I don't know if i am making any sense here, but it feels like tiny bubble or maybe 2. Does this break my wudu. I am hanafi. It happens so often that sometimes right after wudu or when I start salat. Should I just ignore it? or do wudu again?

2. I have the problem of frequent urination. I have tried modern medicine but to no success, surgery is a last resort success rate for which is questionable. Frequent urination runs in my family but is worse for me. I drink as little water as possible, barely 2 glasses a day. My problem is every 20-30 minutes I get this urge to relieve myself, sometimes it happens every 10-15 minutes. Some days are so bad that the urge is almost constant. I have read that when one has the urge to go to bathromm or when one is hungry they should not pray, as that affects concentration and should pray only after they have relieved themselves. Keeping this in mind, I always feel that my salat is no good because I almost always have this urge to relieve myself. Is it okay to pray like that?

Once I use the bathroom,I am fine for 10 minutes or sometimes just 5, and then again the urge starts developing. I finish the salat but if I want to read quran or do extra salat, it gets very frustrating having to make wudu so often. Is it okay to pray while having this constant feeling.

Especialy now during ramadan, after suhur, I have to use the bathroom every 10 mins atleast 5-6 times and thereafter every 30 mins. Thus I pray fajr, just barely making it and rush to the bathroom, and do wudu and come back and read a qlittle quran and have to rush again, this continues thruout fajr time and it gets very frustrating and I end up just praying my fajr salat and no other worship.

Also if someone has herbal remedy or anything that would help me with these problems, I will be very grateful.

Jazak Allah Khair.
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Old 08-10-2011, 05:30 PM   #2
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sis.

What you are experiencing is waswas ie whispering of the Shaytaan. I too have most of the problems you mentioned, but do not let it trouble you.

Its been discussed in detail here: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...ghlight=nabila

Recite the following frequently:

Suratul Fatiha,
Ayatul Kursi
3 Quls.

your problem will be solved. Don't worry.
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Old 08-11-2011, 02:51 AM   #3
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Assalamu Alaikum,

Jazak Allah Khair brother Azhar for your kind advice. I never thought shaitan could influence us like that, but having read the thread you posted, it seems this is happenning a lot to many people.

InshaAllah I will try to implement what you suggested. may Allah make it easier for you, me and everybody, and accept all our duas this blessed month, ameen.

I am confused about the following though--

1. Like I mentioned in my post, I very frequently have this feeling that I passed gas, just a tiny bit. Does this break my wudu? Do I have to repeat wudu?

2. Will my salat be accepted if I pray while I have an urge to relieve myself, this urge appears very frequently though? or should I just ignore it?

Thank you once again for your help.
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:37 AM   #5
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Let a sister deal such issues. There are many learned sisters on this forum.
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Old 08-11-2011, 04:57 AM   #6
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1. If you have the feeling of passing gas, but it's a very gentle sensation that leaves you in doubt and is, as you say, without sound or smell, ignore it completely. You don’t need to redo your wudhu and the sensation of passing gas in this way does not affect your wudhu.

2. In your situation, if you have the urge to urinate and the feeling is so powerful that you can’t hold it in, then go. But until you get to this stage ignore it and use something to distract yourself from it. The ruling that discourages salah when hungry or when one needs to use the bathroom is for those who don’t have a constant problem. In your situation, if you are suffering from waswasa then giving in to the urge will fuel it. Take it slowly, but work on overcoming the waswasa problem that you have so you slowly build up your defence against it by not giving in to the urge each time. The best way to combat wasaawis is to ignore them and block them. Train yourself to do that in small baby steps and you’ll combat it eventually. If you’re living with a partner or with parents ask someone to help you to do this by setting out times that you can go and preventing you from going inbetween those times.

If on the other hand, it's not a waswas issue and you have a genuine, uncontrollable medical problem then you may fall under the ruling of a ma’dhoor. To determine if you do qualify, you will need to check to see if you are constantly urinating so that in one salah time you do not even have enough time to make wudhu and pray the fardh raka’ats of salah which probably take 10-12 mins. If this is the case then you will qualify as a ma’dhoor for subsequent prayer times as long as the problem remains and means that your wudhu will remain intact even if your problem reoccurs multiple times.

Lastly, don’t let the issues you have prevent you from ibadah. Wasaawis are from shaytaan and if he prevents you from praying due to your doubts then he has won. Set yourself a target of reciting Quran for a certain number of hours or reciting a certain number of juz in one sitting. After that, even if you break your wudhu, continue to recite without touching the Quran itself. Place the Quran on a table and use a cloth to turn the pages, or a ruler or the eraser at the tip end of a pencil to turn the pages. This will mean that you can continue your ibadah even if you have difficulty in making wudhu repeatedly.

The one thing to remember about wasaawis is that, the more you give in to them, the stronger they become.
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Old 08-11-2011, 05:44 AM   #7
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Assalamu Alaikum,

1. Like I mentioned in my post, I very frequently have this feeling that I passed gas, just a tiny bit. Does this break my wudu? Do I have to repeat wudu?


The Scholars have written that one should be able to take an oath by Allah to say that one's Wudu’ is broken, for the Wudu’ to be regarded as broken. If one is unable to take such an oath, one's Wudu’ will be deemed to be unbroken and hence, valid.

Read these articles, espcially the sections about wudhu:

Overcoming Waswaas – OCD from an invisible angle!

http://islamandpsychology.blogspot.c...invisible.html

Overcoming Waswaas – The Whispers in Ibaadaat

http://islamandpsychology.blogspot.c...n-ibaadat.html

Islamic Solution for OCD (Waswaas) – A Comprehensive Guide

http://islamandpsychology.blogspot.c...d-waswaas.html

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Old 08-11-2011, 01:33 PM   #8
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Jazak Allah Khair everybody for your reply.

You have no idea how much your replies have helped me. I had absolutely no clue that this could be waswas.

Sister Ummhasan, thank you so much for your advice. InshaAllah, knowing all that you have told is going to make my life so much easier. inshaAllah i will not fret over doubts. I didn't know I could recite Quran without touching it even if I didn't have wudu. Alahmdulillah, this is going to help me, atleast in the beginning while I work on controlling the thoughts. pls pray for me that Allah make me stronger...I am very weak hearted, I get influenced easily and get scared easily.

The one thing to remember about wasaawis is that, the more you give in to them, the stronger they become. This is exactly what I have been doing, I hv been fueling it all these years. The more I do it, worse it gets. It has gradually worsened over the years. My situation would have gotten worse if I had not seeked help now.

Brother Khali, Jazak Allah khair for your links, they are very informative. One of them says "So, repeating your wudu on doubts (whether severe or slight) is in itself a disobedience to the hukm of Prophet Muhammad and not an act of piety like Satan makes you feel." Now I feel I was so wrong and I am upset that all this while I was thinking that repeating wudu so often over doubts was actually piety but infact it is disobedience. subhanAllah, I have been so, so wrong. may allah forgive me and make me stronger, and my imaan so strong that shaitan couldn't play any tricks.

I am very glad I asked my question now rather than waiting until it was too late, and extremely thankful for your help. May Allah(swt) reward you all for your kindness. I have already started implementing some of your advice and inshaAllah, things will get better.

salaams
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:18 PM   #9
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Remember all of us in your duas sister. you will be fine.

Offtopic: Ramadan is the month of mercy and forgiveness, take a look at the best Dua for forgiveness that our beloved Rasoolullah taught us. : http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-and-Magrib%29
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Old 08-12-2011, 02:56 PM   #10
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Remember all of us in your duas sister. you will be fine.

Offtopic: Ramadan is the month of mercy and forgiveness, take a look at the best Dua for forgiveness that our beloved Rasoolullah taught us. : http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-and-Magrib%29
Jazak Allah Khair brother for this beautiful dua. I also started reading the book you posted the link for, on one of the other similar discussions, "Combating whisperings of Shaytan"..subhanAllah it is a very uplifting book and very helpful, Alhamdulillah.

may Allah reward you greatly for your kindness.
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Old 08-12-2011, 04:05 PM   #11
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Assalamu alaikum,

I have some issues going on for which I need advice. I looked on the internet and on this forum but haven't found the answers relevant to my particular situation.

I have some embarassing questions but I am getting so frustrated that it affects my worship. I would greatly appreciate your help and understanding.

1. Very frequently I have this feeling that I passed gas. It's just a feeling that a tiny little bubble just passed. It's very very minute but happens very often. No noise or smell, not even an actual feeling of passing gas like one would normally have. I don't know if i am making any sense here, but it feels like tiny bubble or maybe 2. Does this break my wudu. I am hanafi. It happens so often that sometimes right after wudu or when I start salat. Should I just ignore it? or do wudu again?

2. I have the problem of frequent urination. I have tried modern medicine but to no success, surgery is a last resort success rate for which is questionable. Frequent urination runs in my family but is worse for me. I drink as little water as possible, barely 2 glasses a day. My problem is every 20-30 minutes I get this urge to relieve myself, sometimes it happens every 10-15 minutes. Some days are so bad that the urge is almost constant. I have read that when one has the urge to go to bathromm or when one is hungry they should not pray, as that affects concentration and should pray only after they have relieved themselves. Keeping this in mind, I always feel that my salat is no good because I almost always have this urge to relieve myself. Is it okay to pray like that?

Once I use the bathroom,I am fine for 10 minutes or sometimes just 5, and then again the urge starts developing. I finish the salat but if I want to read quran or do extra salat, it gets very frustrating having to make wudu so often. Is it okay to pray while having this constant feeling.

Especialy now during ramadan, after suhur, I have to use the bathroom every 10 mins atleast 5-6 times and thereafter every 30 mins. Thus I pray fajr, just barely making it and rush to the bathroom, and do wudu and come back and read a qlittle quran and have to rush again, this continues thruout fajr time and it gets very frustrating and I end up just praying my fajr salat and no other worship.

Also if someone has herbal remedy or anything that would help me with these problems, I will be very grateful.

Jazak Allah Khair.
If I remember the name correctly the Hansup jinnaath wait for a person to start the salaah and then put their mouth to the persons anal cavity and blow in it making them feel like they have passed gas whereas they havent. Either it is the Hansup or the Walhaan but I think Walhaan jinnaath bother a person during wudhu time and not salaah time.

In any case, try for mazoor (one who is excused) case, it might work in your favor.

Read this if Allah swt wills it will work in your favor http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/entr...ch-of-the-Jinn
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Old 08-13-2011, 12:41 AM   #12
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If I remember the name correctly the Hansup jinnaath wait for a person to start the salaah and then put their mouth to the persons anal cavity and blow in it making them feel like they have passed gas whereas they havent. Either it is the Hansup or the Walhaan but I think Walhaan jinnaath bother a person during wudhu time and not salaah time.
those sons of!!!!:@...well atleast those hansup lot know where their mouths shd be...im so mad ryt nw
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Old 08-13-2011, 02:06 AM   #13
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If I remember the name correctly the Hansup jinnaath wait for a person to start the salaah and then put their mouth to the persons anal cavity and blow in it making them feel like they have passed gas whereas they havent. Either it is the Hansup or the Walhaan but I think Walhaan jinnaath bother a person during wudhu time and not salaah time.

In any case, try for mazoor (one who is excused) case, it might work in your favor.

Read this if Allah swt wills it will work in your favor http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/entr...ch-of-the-Jinn
damn, i never knew this was possible

i use to get the need to let gass after doing wudu alot of the time
i never new this could be waswas

ima fart on the jinns face next time aha
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Old 08-13-2011, 03:53 AM   #14
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If I remember the name correctly the Hansup jinnaath wait for a person to start the salaah and then put their mouth to the persons anal cavity and blow in it making them feel like they have passed gas whereas they havent. Either it is the Hansup or the Walhaan but I think Walhaan jinnaath bother a person during wudhu time and not salaah time.

...
I think you mean "Khanzab". Here is a Hadeeth mentioned in a book on Khushu by Sh Salih al-Munajjid:

Abul-As reported that he said: O Messenger of Allah (), Satan interupts me when I pray, and I get confused in my recitation. The Messenger of Allah said: "That is a devil whose name is Khanzab. I f you sense his presence, seek refuge with Allah from him and spit (symbolically, without spittle) towards your left three times. (Abul-As) said: I did that and Allah took him (that devil) away from me"

(Muslim, hadith no 2203)
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I think you mean "Khanzab". Here is a Hadeeth mentioned in a book on Khushu by Sh Salih al-Munajjid:

Abul-As reported that he said: O Messenger of Allah (), Satan interupts me when I pray, and I get confused in my recitation. The Messenger of Allah said: "That is a devil whose name is Khanzab. I f you sense his presence, seek refuge with Allah from him and spit (symbolically, without spittle) towards your left three times. (Abul-As) said: I did that and Allah took him (that devil) away from me"

(Muslim, hadith no 2203)
Khanzab! There you go!! man I totally need to review my material.
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Old 08-16-2011, 12:30 PM   #16
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Sister Saihah

MashAllah ou have some excellent advice there, and i'd just like to add two things that will put things more into perspective of what your experiencing

it is said that the shaytan [i think there is a hadith to that effect] even puts his finger in people's [who are performing salaat] anus and makes that 'pop' feeling, so this is why it happens; it's completely natural so dont worry about it

And 2; with your frequent urge to relieve yourself, you have a bladder problem [or some other related problem; there is an advert to that effect on london busses] so you should go see your doctor about it

Since the urge to releive yourself is too frequent, then that is an abnormality and it would fall under a catogory of illness, and there are usally exceptions for illnesses, thus it may be likely that you would not have to do wudhu time and time again and it would be ok to pray with the strong pressure [where otherwise it would be makruh], but you should get that verified from a Shaykh

Salaam!
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Jazak Allah Khair brother for your reply.

it is said that the shaytan [i think there is a hadith to that effect] even puts his finger in people's [who are performing salaat] anus and makes that 'pop' feeling, so this is why it happens; it's completely natural so dont worry about it I never knew it was so common until all you brothers and sisters here told me so. I once mentioned my problem to someone, and they told me it was in my mind! I finally decided to ask here and I am glad to know I am not insane

And 2; with your frequent urge to relieve yourself, you have a bladder problem [or some other related problem; there is an advert to that effect on london busses] so you should go see your doctor about it

Since the urge to releive yourself is too frequent, then that is an abnormality and it would fall under a catogory of illness, and there are usally exceptions for illnesses, thus it may be likely that you would not have to do wudhu time and time again and it would be ok to pray with the strong pressure [where otherwise it would be makruh], but you should get that verified from a Shaykh I am a medical student myself, Alahmdulillah and also saw a doctor too. From all that I know and have been told, my problem is most likely genetic since both my parents have this issue. but theirs started very late in life. Mine is extreme sometime and now I know it is waswas because since I have started ignoring it, like people here advised, I have noticed a slight decrease in the urge. Previosuly I used to rush to the bathroom at the slightest feeling (which bacame a viscious cycle) but now I ignore and Alahmdulillah, and I think things are getting better gradually.

With both my problems I have noticed that more I ignore, better I feel.

brother, and everybody here for helping me. You all have been very kind and understanding, and have helped me a lot. You all are in my prayers inshaAllah. Please remember me in your duas too.

Salaam
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