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Old 03-03-2012, 08:13 PM   #21
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I sincerely pity you for your lack of iman!
Since we're talking about iman, have you finally embraced Islam?
Shall we finally embrace you as our brother?
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Old 03-03-2012, 08:21 PM   #22
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Not yet publicly.
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If you affirmed the Shahadah with faith you're Muslim, be it publicly or not..
Then we can advertize it, don't worry!
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Old 03-03-2012, 10:12 PM   #23
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masyaa Allaah.
There are a lot of 'aleems and muftis here. May Allah have mercy upon us.
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:20 AM   #24
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I apologise if my short explanation on our stand on the permissiblitiy of ta'weez is not satisfactory. I do not have any authority to give my own opinion. I merely conveying what my teacher had told/taught us. In my humble opinion, I consider my teacher to be suitably qualified in giving an answer. Although maybe due to my shortcomings, Im not able to convey them (ie his answers) properly.

Just for information, my answers in my postings in this thread I am refering to my teachers book, "Menjawab Persoalan Makhluk Halus, Kaitannya Dengan Penyakit dan Pengubatan" (Answering questions on spirits/jinns, their connection with illness and the treatment), Dato' Dr Haron Din, Darussyifa ' 2009.

On his qualification,
M.A. (Syariah) - Al Azhar, Cairo (1966 - 68)
PhD (Syariah) - University Darul Ulum Qahirah (1972 - 74)
Deputy Dean, Islamic Studies Faculty of Malaysia National University (1977 - 85)
Professor in Malaysia National University (1986 - until pensioned)
Syariah Advisory Committee member for CIMB Bank
Advisory Committee member of Central Bank, Malaysia
Fatwa Committee for Selangor state, Malaysia
Fatwa Committee for Perlis state, Malaysia
Syariah Advisory Committee for Security Commission of Malaysia
Syariah Advisory Committee Vice Chairman for Malaysian Development Bank
Syariah Advisory Committee for RHB Bank
Syariah Advisory Committee Vice Chairman for Public Bank
etc
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:46 AM   #25
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non l'ho ancora fatto per motivi personali abbastanza seri che però preferirei restassero riservati e perchè ho intenzione di fare il grande passo solo quando ne sarò sicuro al 101%.Sono cose che ti cambiano la vita e da cui non c'è possibilità di tornare indietro,quindi uno deve essere ultra-convinto e io non lo sono ancora del tutto.....Diciamo che continuo a documentarmi ed a imparare in attesa che Dio decida se guidarmi o meno.
Non aspettare fratello. Il diavolo mette dubbio nella vostra mente. non sappiamo quando la morte verrà. dispiace per il povero italiano, google ha dei limiti nella traduzione.
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Old 03-04-2012, 03:42 AM   #26
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I apologise if my short explanation on our stand on the permissiblitiy of ta'weez is not satisfactory. I do not have any authority to give my own opinion. I merely conveying what my teacher had told/taught us. In my humble opinion, I consider my teacher to be suitably qualified in giving an answer. Although maybe due to my shortcomings, Im not able to convey them (ie his answers) properly.

Just for information, my answers in my postings in this thread I am refering to my teachers book, "Menjawab Persoalan Makhluk Halus, Kaitannya Dengan Penyakit dan Pengubatan" (Answering questions on spirits/jinns, their connection with illness and the treatment), Dato' Dr Haron Din, Darussyifa ' 2009.

On his qualification,
M.A. (Syariah) - Al Azhar, Cairo (1966 - 68)
PhD (Syariah) - University Darul Ulum Qahirah (1972 - 74)
Deputy Dean, Islamic Studies Faculty of Malaysia National University (1977 - 85)
Professor in Malaysia National University (1986 - until pensioned)
Syariah Advisory Committee member for CIMB Bank
Advisory Committee member of Central Bank, Malaysia
Fatwa Committee for Selangor state, Malaysia
Fatwa Committee for Perlis state, Malaysia
Syariah Advisory Committee for Security Commission of Malaysia
Syariah Advisory Committee Vice Chairman for Malaysian Development Bank
Syariah Advisory Committee for RHB Bank
Syariah Advisory Committee Vice Chairman for Public Bank
etc


No one is doubting your teacher. We accept that it may be the position in the Shafi'i madhhab. In the Hanafi madhhab, though, it is different. We are just responding to the Salafi propaganda that categorically calls it haraam to have ta'weez, regardless of madhhab.
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:34 AM   #27
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No one is doubting your teacher. We accept that it may be the position in the Shafi'i madhhab. In the Hanafi madhhab, though, it is different. We are just responding to the Salafi propaganda that categorically calls it haraam to have ta'weez, regardless of madhhab.
wa'alaykum assalaam.

Thank you.

Another photo of ta'weez. Maybe some huffaz able to recognise the part of ayat alQur'an that has been altered.
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Old 04-03-2012, 07:59 AM   #28
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No one is doubting your teacher. We accept that it may be the position in the Shafi'i madhhab. In the Hanafi madhhab, though, it is different. We are just responding to the Salafi propaganda that categorically calls it haraam to have ta'weez, regardless of madhhab.

There also another opinion in Shafi'i Madhab permitting rukya. Here is a quote from Umdat As Salik:

PROTECTIVE OR HEALING WORDS (RUQYA) AND AMULETS (from e8.2)

w17.1 (Mansur 'Ali Nasif: ) Protective or healing words are permitted by Sacred Law and are called for when there is need for them, provided three conditions are met:
(a) that they consist of the word of Allah Most High, His names, or His attributes (n: the hadiths prohibiting amulets being interpreted as referring to the beads and so forth that were used in the pre-Islamic period of ignorance (dis: w17.3));
(b) that they be in Arabic;
(c) and that the user not believe the words have any effect in themselves (n: which is unbelief, as at 08.7(17)), but are rather empowered to do so by Allah Most High.

Amulets are like protective or healing words (ruqya) in the need for these eonditions. And Allah knows best

(al- Taj al-jami' Ii al-usul fi ahadith al-Rasul (y100), 3.219).


But as brother Silat mentioned its good to follow the stricter opinion. I personally haven't used any amulets yet.
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:35 PM   #29
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wa'alaykum assalaam.

Thank you.

Another photo of ta'weez. Maybe some huffaz able to recognise the part of ayat alQur'an that has been altered.
P161211_21_PP_600.jpg
I guess nobody has been able to recognise the part of ayat alQur'an...

Can anyone see "... subhanal ladzi faradha 'alaykal qur'aana laraaduka ilaa ma'aad... "
Can anyone see whats if there's any problem with that ?
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:44 PM   #30
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Assalamu alaykum


But as brother Silat mentioned its good to follow the stricter opinion. I personally haven't used any amulets yet. Alhamdulillah till now I am saved, I didn't use any amulet (rather hated them for most part of life). But you have to see people struggling due to sihr attack from their opponents, possessed by jins etc. We are discussing here the permissibility of amulets written by genuine scholars.
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Old 04-03-2012, 05:01 PM   #31
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There also another opinion in Shafi'i Madhab permitting rukya. Here is a quote from Umdat As Salik:

PROTECTIVE OR HEALING WORDS (RUQYA) AND AMULETS (from e8.2)

w17.1 (Mansur 'Ali Nasif: ) Protective or healing words are permitted by Sacred Law and are called for when there is need for them, provided three conditions are met:
(a) that they consist of the word of Allah Most High, His names, or His attributes (n: the hadiths prohibiting amulets being interpreted as referring to the beads and so forth that were used in the pre-Islamic period of ignorance (dis: w17.3));
(b) that they be in Arabic;
(c) and that the user not believe the words have any effect in themselves (n: which is unbelief, as at 08.7(17)), but are rather empowered to do so by Allah Most High.

Amulets are like protective or healing words (ruqya) in the need for these eonditions. And Allah knows best

(al- Taj al-jami' Ii al-usul fi ahadith al-Rasul (y100), 3.219).


But as brother Silat mentioned its good to follow the stricter opinion. I personally haven't used any amulets yet.
is that for ruqyah or amulets ?
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #32
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Default Some photos of talisman, taweez/wafaq, etc...
Just sharing some photos of talisman, wafaq, etc, neutralizing and disposing them.

1- neutralizing a "talisman" in form of egg wrap in yellow cloth with knots tied at certain places.
Given by a patient who received it from a "healer". Supposedly to ward of evil spirits.
TelurAyam_PP_FB.jpg

2- neutralizing talisman, wafaq/taweez in water that has been ruqyah-ed.
The talisman, wafaq supposedly for protection agains evil.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #33
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Neutralizing talisman (orange cloth) and wafaq/taweez (large piece of cloth with arabic characters/words etc).
Given by patients who came for treatment who got them from "healers". Supposedly to ward off evil spirits.
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Some talisman were supposedly to make one become strong, make body impenetrable to weapon etc...
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #34
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Youtube video of talisman, amulets and other items associated with sihr
- MAY ALLAH SAVE US FROM ANY FORM OF SHIRK.

http://youtu.be/_aIRh56HJXo
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #35
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looks like black magic - creepy, i hope you know talismans and stuff like those are forbidden??
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #36
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looks like black magic - creepy, i hope you know talismans and stuff like those are forbidden??
yes, I do know, alhamdulillaah.
Jazaakillaahu khoyron for the concern.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #37
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yes, I do know, alhamdulillaah.
Jazaakillaahu khoyron for the concern.
wa iyaak oh okay ^^ i thought you were promiting it, audubillah, i got scared lol
Only ruqya is allowed other than that is shirk
salam alaikom
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #38
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Disposing (distroying) via burning, amulets/talisman, wafaq/taweez etc that could be associated with sihr and shirk.

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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #39
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wa iyaak oh okay ^^ i thought you were promiting it, audubillah, i got scared lol
Only ruqya is allowed other than that is shirk
salam alaikom
wa 'alaykom salam.
No, Im not promoting.
May ALLAH safeguard all of us from shirk and any a'maal associated with shirk.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #40
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Date: 28th Feb, 2012
Time: 4:42 am
Location: home, Malaysia

A shallot (red small onion) pierced with a 1 1/2 inch nail.
One of several talisman that was "neutralized" belonging to one of the students of a private college last nite.
Several students were down with hysteria the night before.

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