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Turkey may be progressing very well materially but are under the constant la'nat of Allah Ta'ala due to forsaking His Rights and not implementing His Laws. one can see already. the Muslim states that adopted democracy also adopted the western worldview, their financial system, military development etc etc. they are drenched in nationalism.they can never aid their countrymen suffering abroad let alone other Muslims. examples of both: aafia siddiqui and burmese Muslims. |
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Thats what exactly what we are trying to say democracy doesnot displace any value of Islam in the least. I know its not good to be opportunistic and debate politics but it is quite ironical that you posted that and we have this immediately. Infact Turkey was foremost in the somalia food famine. They sent their big ship to gaza during its crisis. The more Islamic they become the more excellent they will become. I think turkey shatters every myth about democracy turning people into an evil and immoral society. - The US army gave a lot of help to the Haiti Earthquake victims. recently it is planning to rehabilitate vietnamese victims of Agent Orange. how does that translate to them being 'good'? - the pakistan Army slaughtered and still slaughters thousands of people in pakistan. yet they helped out in the 2005 earthquake and the 2010 floods. and they were a major help. does that make them 'good'? if one was to point to turkey's immorality one would simply point to the private nude beaches and gay parades, open drinking etc. this act of benevolence is neither ironic nor does it shatter any myth. it simply shows a humanitarian side to turkey's govt. to gauge the "islamicness" of its people via this act is not possible. i can point to another secular democracy called pakistan who will not interfere in burma in anyway because 'they have good relationships' with the generals. i commend turkey on this act. but i also remember they sent their troops to afghanistan as well. yet i did not mention this in my first post on this thread, yet when i saw you grinding your own axe using this good news i had to speak. as for 'aid' i meant actual military aid which these secular countries cannot think of for the reasons i underlined in my post which you quoted. |
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on your head be it then. they can never aid their countrymen suffering abroad let alone other Muslims. examples of both: aafia siddiqui and burmese Muslims ![]() |
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brother be realistic, if the islamic government of turkey practiced full islam they woudl be overthrown. change needs to be gradual. id rather the present government than the secular tyrants in before why wouldn't they be overthrown when they 'sprout wings'? the accepting of american worldview and system of governance puts an upper limit to 'full islam'. |
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I was just pointing to the fact that you said that turkey can never help other muslims and immediately there was a post of things otherwise. Dont be angry habibi - we are not always right. ![]() no i wasn't angry. your post was typical of the error people make when they do not realize the basic simple law: 'the world is a deception' and see worldly results as a sign of haq. what i said back in that thread i mean it still about military aid. the Muslims of burma are given food not liberty. and this commendable action by turkey does not change that fact one bit. nor does it show anything 'otherwise'. |
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Let us leave Turkey's balancing act of being part of NATO alliance and being Islamic to a separate thread. Focus on Myanmar Muslims here. We are all charged up at the moment. There was a march in our institution to hand over a memorandum to local authorities to be communicated to Myanmar Embassy. People are concerned and taking note of the situation. With time passing our organization should be getting better, Lord Most High willing. Nearly every organization of Muslims in India have spoken up, both about Assam and Myanmar and people are taking action towards relief work too.
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The most amazing thing here isnt that Turkey is actually doing something... Let us leave Turkey's balancing act of being part of NATO alliance and being Islamic to a separate thread. Focus on Myanmar Muslims here. |
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