[TorryJens]

This is how you responded to my post back on April the 13th 2005:

I am not sure that I understand your nuance. Are you saying that you agree that the Jews are entitled to their own country in order to guarantee their security. However, on the other hand you question whether their history of being persecuted is the justification for this ? If you are saying that then I am not sure whether you are being consistent but nevertheless, I would agree with you that their history of persecution is not the MAIN justification for a country of their own although it's an important element of it. The main justification is that all people are entitled to have self determination if they seek it and in the case of the Jews they had and have a historical entitlement to the land of Israel and that land only. This does not mean that any native Arab Palestinians had no entitlements, it means that they both had entitlements. Unfortunately though, due to the intransigence of their misguided leaders, the Palestinians ended up losing out ..... but Medio described this process (above) more eloquently than me.
Originally Posted by Static (post 131) That is exactly what I'm saying. Their history of persecution is not the main reason they should have a country, although it is certainly one. I don't believe any people are "entitled" to a certain piece of land, and the Arabs that had been living on Palestine are just as "entitled" to it as the Jews, but that besides the point.

Either way, I think the actions on the part of many of the Arabs is completely ridiculous; why does it matter so much that a land mass smaller than many states in the US is no longer under their control? It doesn't.

On this thread: "Why Separation?"

You might want to read our preceding posts on that thread. It seems to me that you've made 180 degree turn from your previous position? Am I right?

[TorryJens]

Absent the childish ad hominems, the suggestion is little more than a prescription for dhimmitude in Jerusalem.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

[S.T.D.]

Don't tell me it cannot be done, because I have been to Israel and seen how the Jews and Arabs interact - it only needs to be sanctioned by the law.

Really? What have you seen? Are you a Jew who lived as a minority in an Arab country? Are you a Jew who lived as a minority in any country in which significant portions of the majority population were suspicious of you, your family, and your motives, or at worst were violently anti-Semitic?

If you answer the latter in the negative, then I suggest you listen to those of us who can answer it in the affirmative.

[Ifroham4]

Soule stop being so immature.

Rather than polluting this thread, I'd much rather you scurry back over to the other thread and finally substantiated your preposterous claims.

Regarding a one-state solution there are a few issues I can see. Israel, being the Jewish state, is going to have a foreign policy that reflects a Jewish view of the world. This will likely come into conflict with what Palestinian Arabs believe on many occasions.

What is "a foreign policy that reflects a Jewish view of the world"? Do you mean things like opposition to antisemitism, rejection of dhimmitude, and a commitment to Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state?

[radikal]

Is that because it would be the twenty third Muslim Arab state instead?