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12-03-2005, 07:02 AM
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 sleep paralysis and obe (unbeknownst to me)
Sleep for maybe 1 and a half hours.
Was In someplace, I think a baseball stadium when I felt something, either from inside the dream or outside the dream, either way I didnt like something about what was happening and fought it. Managed to wake myself up (or so I thought) but could not move. Did not know at all why or what was going on, very confusing. Fought to move for a very long time, eventually got up and searched for the lights as it was very dark, could not find lights at first. Took me a while, found it and flipped the switch, nothing. (:O I flipped them on in my imagination?) Couldnt figure out what was happening, when was thrown back into my body. Again, I couldnt move (still did not know what was going on, very very confusing). Fought it again for a long time, managed to get up again and found the lights, nothing walked out everything is dark and quiet in my home, no lights nothing, wondering where my dad is when thrown back into my body. Did it a third time, walked out, looked around and investigated a third time, no dad, no lights, no tv, no computer, nothing. Thrown back in. Im pissed at this point and throughout the whole time I was feeling something bad near me but couldnt see anything noticeable. Got sick and tired of it, but instead of attacking I called out god. First time, nothing. Second time, nothing. Third time, nothing. Next I called out Jesus Christ, in which I had no reason to believe in, and is a therefore a desperate act. First time: Felt something come upon me immediately. I didnt know what it was. I had heard of poeple getting posessed in moment of prayer, in which I apply this to being in a vulnerable state. So I fought it. I fought it and fought it, and it was hard, like it was trying to consume me, to get inside, but on the outside it felt good. I still fought it, in my fighting I woke my self up in the real sense. I felt my body again, my physical body. Openened my eyes, still very confused, struggled for a long time to move until I could get up and turn on the lights. Came in told my dad, and got on the pc. oath269: (bad word) man you there James Wainio: yah oath269: i just had a hard time James Wainio: oh? good thing you logged on I have to get off soon according to my dad James Wainio: whats going on? oath269: stupid man oath269: i was dreaming oath269: and i was in some place oath269: i think a baseball stadium and something was wrong oath269: cant remember what oath269: and i fought it oath269: and i ended up waking up oath269: except i couldnt move oath269: i didnt know why but i couldnt move oath269: i struggled to move oath269: everything was dark oath269: and i managed to get up after a time oath269: tried to turn on lights but nothing James Wainio: oh (bad word) like sleep paralysis oath269: then thrown back in oath269: yep oath269: exactly oath269: again i tried to get up oath269: for a long time oath269: tried to turn on lights but nothing oath269: walked out oath269: everything dark oath269: no one here oath269: im thinking what the heck is going on? (i thought i was awake) oath269: thrown back into my body again! oath269: tried to get up a third time oath269: went out, no lights oath269: felt for the lights a long time, nothing oath269: went out of the room (pretty much walked right through the door) oath269: no one home oath269: no lights oath269: no tv oath269: no pc James Wainio: You had a dream induced OBE? oath269: i figured the electricity went out for some reason and my dad went to fix it oath269: yep oath269: i thought i was awake James Wainio: Crazy oath269: i was actually obe oath269: it was very confusing oath269: i was scared ♥♥♥♥less, i felt something negative in the area oath269: might have been a fear of the dark but idk oath269: i called on god oath269: nothing oath269: called on him again oath269: nothing oath269: did it a third time, nothing oath269: then jesus oath269: i said Jesus christ oath269: and I dont really believe in jesus oath269: btw oath269: i have seen no proof for his existance oath269: so thats why oath269: all of a sudden i felt something come upon me oath269: i fought it oath269: i struggled with it James Wainio: BTW u gota be acreful what u see in OBE cus you can create stuff just by thought oath269: i thought, well maybe this is a demon since i heard of people praying and things come upon them oath269: thought it was because they were vulnerable oath269: either way i fought it oath269: im so (bad word) tired and worn out man oath269: never thought id wake up more tired than i was when i get to sleep oath269: and im so frustrated that i refuse to go back to sleep oath269: when it came upon me, and i fought it, i managed to wake up James Wainio: If there is something in your house you might want to go out and buy Sage Incense oath269: ok James Wainio: Go burn int in your room oath269: idk if there is, but things are always hanging around me and ♥♥♥♥ oath269: and it could have very well been jesus that came upon me James Wainio: ]Naw if your awake and all go get it now dont procrastinate oath269: the important thing is that i woke up oath269: i cant oath269: the occult shop is closed oath269: unless they have it at walmart? James Wainio: not at mine oath269: i have an occult shop in my town James Wainio: oka we will do a cleaning of your room. Intent can work well enough oath269: and i hate the stupid fairies there oath269: they freak me the (bad word) out oath269: i think they might be evil, i think they watch you James Wainio: Lol ignore the fluffy bunnys James Wainio: thats all it is James Wainio: anything that tries to be menacing oath269: im gonna make a post, and post this along with it ok James Wainio: is just a little (bad word) James Wainio: oka James Wainio: we are going to clean out your room the best I can oath269: sweet oath269: ill work on it monday oath269: and buy some incense and ♥♥♥♥ James Wainio: Im going to use all the reiki I know James Wainio: Get SAGE James Wainio: actaully oath269: your right, i need to surround myself with some holy objects and stuff oath269: ok ok ill get sage oath269: but why sage? James Wainio: just cus its just for clearing James Wainio: its practricly made for it! *Waves his arms around* oath269: ok, ill ask my friend about it tonite when he comes on, he knows about this herbs and stuff James Wainio: You gota burn it its not hard James Wainio: you light the end of the stick but James Wainio: dont blow out the flame James Wainio: then it bruns like a coal James Wainio: burns* James Wainio: err blow it out James Wainio: blow out the flame so it burns on the insede like a coal James Wainio: oka oath269: ok ok oath269: ill make my post now before i forget |
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12-03-2005, 07:13 AM
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I personally wouldn’t have classed this as an attack. I’ve experienced similar things many times. Such experiences generally have lucidity less then waking baseline, and are usually preceded by little sleep.
In such experiences I feel a threat (could be fear induced through waking up in paralysis state from an uncomfortable dream, and not realising at first what is happening – which invokes a fear reaction), and usually experience false awakenings (or many layers of false awakenings) which seems to be what you did. The last time this happened, I was by my bed after waking up in a paralysis state, and it felt like ‘something’ was crushing my consciousness, it felt like tremendous pressure on all sides of my head/mind – which seemed to be knocking me towards unconsciousness – my vision/thoughts were getting dim. The dream, which woke me up into the paralysis state was one of being attacked by a presence – it was uncomfortable. This was due to very intense vibrations focused around my head, and when one takes into account false awakenings, fear and a slightly lower lucidity – it can be seen where the experience came from. All I’m saying is, not everything which seems like an attack is caused by an ‘outside’ entity. And I’ve experienced similar things enough to personally prove this to myself. You opinion might differ – but going down the route of thinking of negs attacking you can cause such things to happen (or seem to happen). |
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12-03-2005, 07:36 AM
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I personally wouldn’t have classed this as an attack. I’ve experienced similar things many times. Such experiences generally have lucidity less then waking baseline, and are usually preceded by little sleep. Normally, as being very aggressive, I would have released a large sum of energy in all directions all around me or something of the sort, as of late however, I am having difficulty finding ability to cause harm to another. It has to do with acceptance, I am accepting of everything, and in the process of fighting things, I also fight a strong aspect of myself. |
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12-03-2005, 01:34 PM
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After reading my article, I have come to the conclusion that I may have very well been dreaming at the same time as I was out of body. In which I had a possible confrontation in the dream which reflected onto my astral body. I was first reminded of this by Robert Bruce, when he speaks of this happening in one of his audio interviews. This is a definite possibility, but its still possibility as it was quite dark in my room, im going to investigate this further as I went in my room earlier and "tapped in" to the more sensitive aspect of myself and definitely felt some 'thick' energy that didnt seem so pleasant. I suppose it could have been an accumulation of events and also have to consider the fact that I called upon Jesus Christ in which I had something powerful come upon me, and in which I do not believe in this because I have never seen Christ or heard any mention of him elsewhere besides from mankind, and that is only in the books. (not to be confused, I do think a man called Jesus existed but as for being the son of god, I consider god my father and that I am his son, as anyone may)
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12-03-2005, 02:41 PM
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In such situations I have prayed before (asking Christ for help) - or used 'protection' (shielded), so I agree there is nothing wrong with doing that
 The belief that such things will/might help, can actually turn the situation around and make it more positive.It's good to see you are keeping an open mind on this, it's a good sign of your development
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12-03-2005, 05:15 PM
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In such situations I have prayed before (asking Christ for help) - or used 'protection' (shielded), so I agree there is nothing wrong with doing that  as I dont feel very popular lately :cry: I do have an open mind as much as possible, regardless my creed is truth and I follow it above all else, if I havn't seen it, it doesnt exist, but as such, anything is possible. Another thing happened earlier when I went to investigate my room which I did not mention, but now as was thinking about making a post since something else just happened, I saw your post so will go ahead with this. I went into my room, and stopped, stood there for a minute or so and felt and watched. After that minute or so, I saw, on my floor, was a piece of cloth that was a dryer sheet- from my laundry apparently- that moved quite a distance. I went in closer and wondered about the source of energy that caused it to move as there was no movement from me or anything else to cause any sort of wind or disturbance that I saw and since I was in an aware and watching state I would expect I should know. Either way, I sort of blew it off. Then, just now, at work. Something else moved around me, something heavy actually, but still small. It was a stapler puller, and I barely caught a glimps of it as it fell. It was originally inside a glass jar. It landed outside of it. The next question is, was it me, or something else? As I have had things move around me quite often and it is a great urge for me to be free of my physical limitations so that I may perform feats such as this, and greater. I was quite angry tonite, as there are a lot of people here at work pissing me off. Drunks and such (I work at a hotel, at nite time). Not only that I have recently realized that people are like mirrors and reflect. And that My friend Tom says that the clearer you are the more and better you reflect, in which I have been very spiritual and learned much in a very short time and people have been acting very strange to me, even though I am not hurting them. This one lady called me a name earlier, it was very mean and rude, and I didnt say a dam thing, I only answered her questions and this once (since some of them were drunk) I said, "one at a time please" because they were all talking to me at once and I couldnt hear anything. So, If you look into a mirror, and you like what you see in the mirror, then you that is fine. But most likely, if the 'mirror' is very clear, you will see your faults, and most will not like them. Blessed are those who fix their faults and accept them for the time being, do not shun your faults and deny their existance. They are there, and you (not saying this to anyone in particular) know they are, and so do we. But if we tell you, you become more delusional. So what do we do? We cannot help someone who does not want to be helped, cannot share with one who doesnt wish to receive. Regardless, they are there, and we all have them, as no one is perfect. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." No matter whether we believe in something or not, the phenomenon takes place irrespective of our knowledge or belief P.S. Does anyone know a possible reason why I cannot get into the astral (I am in real time) as I often get pulled back into my body, particularly when I try to leave it. Ive never seen any people in real time, at first I could not see anything, but now that my clairaudience is developing I see enough but all of these times it has been dark when I went obe so I still see very little. Whats strange is, if its a real time why was my father not there and why were the lights not on. |
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12-03-2005, 11:05 PM
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Oath: as I dont feel very popular lately Is it something we said?
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