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Old 08-17-2012, 11:29 PM   #21
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Exactly. It's their heart during hard times and endurance when there's a long row to hoe, but it's their emotional dependence that's touching.

Other people with other breeds have to maul and smother and bother and beg their dogs for attention. Pits would rather sleep on a cold floor in your bedroom than in a $150 dog bed in the living room that isn't from you.

...and they get even more attached to kids.
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:36 PM   #22
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Can't find a dated article with pits being called "nanny dogs" and I've only heard about it online, but this is worth looking at, nice old photos:

http://www.ywgrossman.com/newblog/?p=1154
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:41 PM   #23
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Can't find a dated article with pits being called "nanny dogs" and I've only heard about it online, but this is worth looking at, nice old photos:

http://www.ywgrossman.com/newblog/?p=1154
THAT article is what started all this nanny dog BS. Never heard of it until that article (the original) was released a year or 2 ago.
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:48 PM   #24
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Well, I'm not interested enough to find the history of the "nanny dog" tag, but I know pits are good with kids, so I enjoyed the photos. I think those old dogs represented well.
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:51 PM   #25
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But they're not a nanny dog. They shouldn't be left unattended with children as "nanny" would suggest. And regardless of how good they are with children, this is one of those positive myths where it's not true info even if it's a "feel good" type story.

I agree with fieldmarshall. The positive myths do just as much damage as the negative ones. They just damage a different way.
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:54 PM   #26
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As never should Any breed.

But they're not a nanny dog. They shouldn't be left unattended with children as "nanny" would suggest.
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:56 PM   #27
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One of the worst things i hate about Pitbull information sites on the internet is, they try to fight the negative myth's about the breed with positive myths of their own. Misinformation is still misinformation, and most of these people do more harm than good.
I've left Left many pages of FB for this very reason.
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Old 08-18-2012, 12:02 AM   #28
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Guess my Mother and father, Aunt and Uncle, and Grandparents on both side weren't good to us. We usually had 2 or 3 dogs -- sometimes more -- hanging out with us as we covered the ranch on horses with rifles.

I'll probably get railed by you for saying this, but I won't let my kids wonder around without at least a dog or two, pit bull I mean.
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Old 08-18-2012, 12:08 AM   #29
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But they're not a nanny dog. They shouldn't be left unattended with children as "nanny" would suggest. And regardless of how good they are with children, this is one of those positive myths where it's not true info even if it's a "feel good" type story.

I agree with fieldmarshall. The positive myths do just as much damage as the negative ones. They just damage a different way.
Yep! Totally agree!
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Old 08-18-2012, 12:10 AM   #30
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Guess my Mother and father, Aunt and Uncle, and Grandparents on both side weren't good to us. We usually had 2 or 3 dogs -- sometimes more -- hanging out with us as we covered the ranch on horses with rifles.

I'll probably get railed by you for saying this, but I won't let my kids wonder around without at least a dog or two, pit bull I mean.
Dogs are animals first. You should always expect them to be.
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Old 08-18-2012, 12:13 AM   #31
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...and people are animals, but you wouldn't say "no child should be allowed to be alone with a person," because...
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Old 08-18-2012, 12:15 AM   #32
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Dogs are not people. People are not dogs. By humanizing our pets, we stop allowing them to be ANIMALS.
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Old 08-18-2012, 12:39 AM   #33
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Now I'm going in circles. Are dogs animals and people aren't or aren't people animals and dogs are or are people dogs and animals aren't?

Dogs have to be trustworthy around children, with or without me attending, or I'll send them to the happy hunting ground, but that doesn't happen.

Fortunately, I've never been around a pit that couldn't be trusted around kids. I probably trusted my dogs as much as I've trusted any friend. I haven't ever felt like my pits were dangerous to me, even as a kid.

I've never seen a pit turn on a child. Kids, by nature pits know to let any and everything happen. Biting a child isn't in their nature... unless you really screw up their mind.

Just can't agree with the idea that a pit can't be trusted around children.
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Old 08-18-2012, 12:56 AM   #34
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This blog does have some info on it but it is bias And does want to paint apbts in a bad light, the person writing the blog supports BSL

The whole nanny dog thing is kind of dumb.any dog breed has the potential to be harmful to kids
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Old 08-18-2012, 01:18 AM   #35
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Never said they can't be trusted around children. I said you shouldn't leave any dog unattended with a child.

Humans are capable of rational thoughts. Dogs are not. Dogs are not the same as people.
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Old 08-18-2012, 02:43 AM   #36
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Never said they can't be trusted around children. I said you shouldn't leave any dog unattended with a child.

Humans are capable of rational thoughts. Dogs are not. Dogs are not the same as people.
anyone who cant comprehend something as simple as this really fails at life.
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Old 08-18-2012, 02:56 AM   #37
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Never said they can't be trusted around children. I said you shouldn't leave any dog unattended with a child.

Humans are capable of rational thoughts. Dogs are not. Dogs are not the same as people.
excatly. no matter what kind of dog it should not be left with kids unattended. some times kids can push a good dog too far and hurt the dog and then it reacts then it is always the dogs fault in the eyes of parents or general public.

now, Peanut is the best friend to my just about 3 year old neice. they get along great and play but she never gets to play with him with out me around beause her espeically can be really misbehaven and can go from playing nice to hurting her playmates and the dogs in seconds. the other day she got mad at Peanut for licking her when she fell down and while he was loving on her she started yelling at him and balled up her fist and tried to swing on him. i seen her doing that and game over she was now in rough mode she doesn't get to play with dogs when she is being like that. i took the dogs away from her. (i am trying to teach her that is not acceptable)
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Old 08-18-2012, 03:02 AM   #38
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Let your dog out of a crate and leave it around your kids, never. Cut your dogs loose off a chain and leave your kids with them, never. Bring the dogs in from a long night of work and cut your kids loose on horses and let the dogs do what they please... easy decision.
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Old 08-18-2012, 03:07 AM   #39
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excatly. no matter what kind of dog it should not be left with kids unattended. some times kids can push a good dog too far and hurt the dog and then it reacts then it is always the dogs fault in the eyes of parents or general public.

now, Peanut is the best friend to my just about 3 year old neice. they get along great and play but she never gets to play with him with out me around beause her espeically can be really misbehaven and can go from playing nice to hurting her playmates and the dogs in seconds. the other day she got mad at Peanut for licking her when she fell down and while he was loving on her she started yelling at him and balled up her fist and tried to swing on him. i seen her doing that and game over she was now in rough mode she doesn't get to play with dogs when she is being like that. i took the dogs away from her. (i am trying to teach her that is not acceptable)
this is a perfect example!
My gram told me that when she was younger her neighbor had a saint bernard, and they left it alone with their toddler, the toddler shoved a pencil into the dogs ear and the dog killed the kid....Needless to the dog was blamed and euthanized
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:05 PM   #40
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I was "left alone" with our family dog. I don't imagine as a baby or a toddler, but I was left alone once I was 6 or older.

My niece and nephew are 11 and older and they are perfectly capable of taking Hades for a walk around the block, couldn't tell you how many kids walk dogs ALONE in my town. It's insane.... /sarcasm

While I understand the do gooder perception of don't ever leave kids alone with dogs, it's not realistic, at least where I live. Most families have dogs for kids, most families have appropriate breeds of dogs for those families despite the general publics lack of intelligence as we so often see, and yes, children often walk those dogs.

It's tragic, hearing of dogs seriously injuring or killing children, but my gut tells me there's usually much more to those stories.

I couldn't tell you how many elderly people that came to dog classes told stories of getting bit by farm dogs as children and then getting the belt for upsetting the working dog. They made it out alive.

I suppose I'm just in one of those moods right now where I find everyone is so over protective and sensitive and it annoys me. You have a dog that you know you can't trust with kids ever, be responsible. You live on a hundred acres and your 10 year old is heading out to play, have a dog that you know inside and out and it's never displayed any signs of being uncomfortable, fearful or overly "dominant" (which can result in corrective bites), let the dog go with them, I personally don't feel that that's an outrageous, irresponsible decision.
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