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Old 10-27-2010, 05:55 AM   #1
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Default Not to stir the pot about the "Gator Myth" but...
Ok, I had a thought on this and the origin of where the term "gator pit" came from...I will try to make some sense of this.

Yes, "gator pits" seems to be a term just thrown around where anyone would like. But this seems like the same thing with Dobermanns with the "Warlock Doberman".

Given that Zion posted a ped with a dog NAMED Alligator this seems like a reasonable hypothesis.

Borong's Warlock was a standard sized Doberman Pinscher. He was a Ch. that was so popular, many people sought to breed their bitches to him. This is where the "Warlock line" came from. Now, because he was so popular, EVERYONE bred to him, including BYBs. Because of this, you are now seeing poorly bred dogs. Nowadays, "Warlock Doberman" means grossly oversized dogs that are no longer Dobermans.

My point in saying all this is that a dog named Alligator, or Gator, what have you, may have been a popular dog that the same thing happened to. It was cool to have a dog out of "gator" and then it morphed into this ugly oversized BYB dog. Same with "Dagger" and "Eddington" lines. Though god knows where those monstrosities came from.

Here is an example of the Dobermans I was talking about. May not necessarily be "Warlock" but what they "look like".


Roxann here stands at 33" and weighs 160lbs. Yes I know she is grossly overweight.


And a standard sized Dobermann with me. I am 5'3. Silence stands 28" and weighs 85lbs.


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P.S. please do not get this thread closed by name calling.
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Old 10-27-2010, 05:56 AM   #2
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the pot is stired..no.. j/k.

that is a big ass dobe though
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Old 10-27-2010, 06:01 AM   #3
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It makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit. No Dobe should be over 100lbs regardless of lines. Period.
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Old 10-27-2010, 06:03 AM   #4
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lol.i always wanted a dobe...and I plan on getting one when i have the space..beautiful dogs
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Old 10-27-2010, 06:40 AM   #5
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Yikes! That is one FAT dog!
I agree that this may be where the name originated (with the dog named "Alligator"), but it has been so vastly overused by bybs to make breed-uneducated people think these dogs are "special" that its hard to tell. This is probably the case with the "rare" blue "pit bulls" hahaha
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Old 10-27-2010, 06:59 AM   #6
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There are/were many notable bulldogs named "Gator"/"Alligator". But as to what it really describes these days? Who knows.
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Old 10-27-2010, 07:03 AM   #7
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Imo I see Gator used with Bully lines alot in bybing
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Old 10-27-2010, 07:07 AM   #8
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we've been over that already..you werent present???

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guess not,didnt see you reply on the thread.its in this section though...
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Old 10-27-2010, 07:09 AM   #9
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It's just like with BYB crossing an APBT with American Bulldog or Mastiff to get a bigger "APBT" with a bigger head and selling them as "APBT"....drives me crazy. It's happening a lot here in Phoenix, Az. It makes me sad because so many people don't know what a true APBT looks like anymore.

That and what was said earlier "rare blue pits" hahahahaha

Or better yet, what about those new "pocket" pits? Poor things must have such problems with their joints....

Sorry, a little off topic....but it just gets my blood boiling.
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Old 10-27-2010, 07:15 AM   #10
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I read it and my opinion STILL stands..obviously for good reason.
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people know there were two game dogs GATOR and ALLIGATOR BUT the term is loose and vomited all over the place like a bad nights take out. there is NO line of gator mouth, there are NO such dogs as GATOR mouths or even gator pits...it is a marketed word used to SELL dogs and usually they are BULLIES
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Old 10-27-2010, 07:18 AM   #11
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before they were watered down they were gator bloodline pit bulls...not am bullys...effin pit bulls...but lets not get into it,they may close the thread again
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Old 10-27-2010, 07:34 AM   #12
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before they were watered down they were gator bloodline pit bulls...not am bullys...effin pit bulls...but lets not get into it,they may close the thread again
WTF do you mean? the bloodline was called Gator or did the dogs came from the same Bloodlines as gator? You make me so effin confused, explain, and was it a rare blue nose as well?
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Old 10-27-2010, 07:40 AM   #13
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hmm?? no your confusing me.
o ok i get it.had to reread..yea there were two dogs that produced offspring that can be considered gator,as long as another breed or bloodline wasnt introduced they were truly from the gator bloodline..i forget them by heart..something like plumber alligator and crenshaw gator..that may be it..
they were champion dogs..although crenshaw came off the jeep bloodline,they carried his offspring as from the gator bloodline


so now the bloodline is watered down,other breeds were introduced to that bloodline,the gator bloodline isnt true anymore
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Old 10-27-2010, 07:41 AM   #14
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as I said there were dogs NAMED gator and Alligator BUT those are NOT lines..those are just names. that doesn't make them Alligator pits/ gator pits.
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Old 10-27-2010, 07:42 AM   #15
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hmm?? no your confusing me.
o ok i get it.had to reread..yea there were two dogs that produced offspring that can be considered gator,as long as another breed or bloodline wasnt introduced they were truly from the gator bloodline..i forget them by heart..something like plumber alligator and crenshaw gator..that may be it..
they were champion dogs..although crenshaw came off the jeep bloodline,they carried his offspring as from the gator bloodline


so now the bloodline is watered down,other breeds were introduced to that bloodline,the gator bloodline isnt true anymore
So wouldnt that make them a Jeep bloodline instead of a Gator bloodline or did they create the gator bloodline out of the jeep bloodline?
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Old 10-27-2010, 07:45 AM   #16
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So wouldnt that make them a Jeep bloodline instead of a Gator bloodline or did they create the gator bloodline out of the jeep bloodline?
the gator came out of the jeep..i thought about why they didnt just call them jeep,but i guess they wanted to keep the name,not sure how that worked out..but i know crenshaw was of jeep bloodline
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Old 10-27-2010, 07:46 AM   #17
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the gator came out of the jeep..i thought about why they didnt just call them jeep,but i guess they wanted to keep the name,not sure how that worked out..but i know crenshaw was of jeep bloodline
Who exaclty kept the name? the creater of the Jeep bloodline?
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Old 10-27-2010, 07:49 AM   #18
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dont know i didnt talk to him..just shit i researched.

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assuming whoever bred crenshaw and plumbers kept the name

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the first answer wus just me being a smartass
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Old 10-27-2010, 08:02 AM   #19
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So when people refure to "Gator" bloodline there are actually refurring that it is a Jeep bloodline?
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Old 10-27-2010, 08:06 AM   #20
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assuming whoever bred crenshaw and plumbers kept the name
Crenshaw is the last name of the breeder, James Crenshaw. Technically, Jeep's owner was James Garrett, but since Jeep was out of Crenshaw's Honeybunch, he kept the breeder name. Jeep is referred to, on many pedigrees, as CH Crenshaw's (Garrett's) Jeep (4XW) ROM
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