[citicroego]

I would take a pup from proven parents. I like the drive. I would also expect a dog from proven game dogs be more likely to display the ideal human loving temperment then dogs bred strictly for show or pets.

Of course, this does not mean that I beleive all tested dogs are perfect examples of proper temperment, nor does it mean that breeders of show or pets do not make effort to ensure these traits are present in there dogs.

It's a matter of tested dogs being pushed to their limits and still displaying a people friendly temperment, where as show and pets rarely get pushed to that point, so if their man biting threshold is higher than it should be, you may not know until or unless that dog was put into an extreme situation where this can be tested.

You could be breeding mildly HA dogs for generations, each possibly getting just a little worse than the last, until one is put into a position to display it. Now you've got a mess of dogs out there breeding more dogs with unsound temperments.

^^^^ that
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I've always been of the same thought with my Goldens. My brother, the same with his labs.
What's on the inside?
Were their parents good at agility, hunting etc. Not a dog that just stands there and looks pretty, possibly on crappy hips etc...

[Shipsyspeepay]

I would want to know what the dogs had produced and the temperaments. Also....if the parents were proven producers and how they did in the box as well as if any offspring was doing well. I want a working dog out of proven parents or a least off a proven pedigree OR off dogs that I have seen working with my own 2 eyes. Working dogs are what I like and I'll sacrifice certain things to get a good one.

[moopierof]

Proven box, proven producers... why? just call me a purist.