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Old 04-26-2010, 11:36 PM   #1
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Coyote vs. Greyhound: The Battle Lines Are Drawn


Fred R. Conrad/The New York Times
John Hardzog, a cattle rancher in Oklahoma, releasing some of his greyhounds from his 1977 Ford pickup to hunt coyotes.


ELGIN, Okla. — One morning in an otherwise quiet corner of the Great Plains, high-pitched yips and deep growls sprang from a cluster of trees. Two greyhounds were fighting a pack of coyotes.

One greyhound was bitten on a front paw and a back leg. The other was bitten in the jaw, and blood soaked its muzzle. But two of the seven coyotes died. The greyhounds, wild-eyed and wet with slobber, trotted to their owner, John Hardzog, a cattle rancher who was waiting nearby.

“Greyhounds are calm, gentle dogs, but they’re also pretty efficient killers,” Hardzog said as he picked a clump of tawny coyote hair from one dog’s teeth. “This is exactly what they’re born and bred to do. Yep, this is what they live for.”

Unlike the greyhounds familiar to most Americans as racers and pets, Hardzog’s are trained only to chase and kill coyotes for sport.

Hunting coyotes with greyhounds goes back generations. President Theodore Roosevelt did so on this land, about 70 miles southwest of Oklahoma City, in the early 1900s. It remains largely a regional pursuit that is part of the area’s lore, like the cattle drives along the Chisholm Trail.

Ranchers and farmers have long viewed coyotes as pests because they kill livestock. Yet hunting coyotes with greyhounds — all members of the Canidae family — is banned in some states, including Washington and Colorado. Some animal-rights groups, including the Humane Society of the United States, say it is inhumane, for coyotes and for greyhounds.

“It was not thought of as sporting by a majority of citizens in our state because the coyotes were getting killed by dogs, not by people,” Miranda Wecker, the chairwoman of the Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission, said of last year’s decision to ban the sport. “This was dogs ripping apart other dogs. Thinking about it that way, it became very close to dogfighting.”

Dogfighting became a felony in all 50 states in 2008, in no small part because of Michael Vick, the N.F.L. star who went to prison a year earlier for his involvement in a dogfighting ring.

But Hardzog, a 65-year-old lifelong Oklahoman who wears pressed Wrangler jeans and a rodeo belt buckle the size of a bread plate, called his favorite form of hunting “one of the cleanest sports out there.”

Using greyhounds to hunt is natural, Hardzog said.

“When you get the dogs running in a dead run after a coyote, now that’s a sport,” Hardzog said before spitting snuff into a tiny gold spittoon. “The coyote is just about the smartest wild animal alive because they always have an escape route. I respect them. They can outsmart you. But greyhounds are smart, too. I think they’re the neatest dog ever made.”

Hardzog, who eschews seat belts and scoffs at “too many laws,” was 7 when he first hunted coyotes with his father. Now he has 40 greyhounds and greyhound mixes, some with scarred legs and faces, that he bred on his 318-acre ranch. Sometimes, they gnaw on stillborn calves and clean their teeth on the bones. He said he spent $600 on their monthly upkeep.

They have names like Matthew, Luke, Venus and Little Bit. Some are part Irish wolfhound, others part Saluki. All have a strong prey drive and hunt by sight. Only a handful have failed as coyote hunters, Hardzog said.

Electric-shock collars help train the dogs not to chase anything but coyotes. Otherwise, Hardzog’s dogs are collar free, for good reason. Several broke their necks when their collars snagged while scooting under barbed-wire fences, which can also rip their paper-thin skin.

“Every time you turn ’em loose, you don’t know whether it’s going to come back sound or not,” Hardzog said. “There’s just a lot of obstacles out there. Every once in a while, you had one run off in a ditch and either break their back or a shoulder or dislocate a hip. But it’s the risk you take. If you didn’t let them run, you would be denying what they were bred to do.”

Once, Hardzog lost four dogs when they ran over a cliff while pursuing a coyote, his wife, Charlette, said.

“He has such a bond with his dogs,” she said. “He could barely get over that.”

In his truck, Hardzog often keeps a blood-clotting agent, wound wrap, a staple gun and an array of medications, but no water. If a dog is seriously injured, he said, he takes it to a veterinarian. Other hunters might not be as caring, he said, because “they got no common sense.”

To subdue a coyote, the greyhounds often nip its back leg to sever a hamstring. Then they go for the kill by biting the neck. Hunters often leave coyote carcasses behind.

Judy Paulsen, the director of Greyhound Companions of New Mexico, said she had seen the damage coyote hunting could do.

“If the dogs don’t return from the hunt,” she said, some hunters “just leave them for dead because, to them, they are expendable.”

Coyotes help control rodent populations and are an important part of the ecosystem, wildlife experts say. To protect livestock, however, the federal Agriculture Department’s Wildlife Services killed nearly 90,000 coyotes in 2008.

Catching them is tricky because they are cunning, skittish animals wary of anything unusual in their habitat, said Paul Curtis, a wildlife specialist at Cornell University.

The Agriculture Department uses foot and neck traps, aerial gunning and bait containing poisonous gas.

Yet the coyotes endure, even when ranchland turns into housing developments, as it has here. They learn to snack on garbage, roadkill and pets.

In Oklahoma, coyote-hunting season never ends. But to avoid having his dogs overheat, Hardzog hunts from Thanksgiving through March, killing 270 to 350 coyotes a season.

“The government spends thousands of dollars trying to kill coyotes every year,” he said, grinning. “I do it for free.”

On hunting days, Hardzog loads 16 dogs into four specially made pens and into his 1977 Ford pickup. These days, he estimated, one in six farmers do not want him on their land.

“These people, they just live in a different world now,” he said. “They don’t have no cattle. Don’t have no chickens. They just got little yippy poodles. Nobody hardly even knows what it is to hunt coyote with greyhounds. But they ought to. Coyotes love to kill little poodles and cats.”

Hardzog drives along dirt roads and through ranches, using binoculars to spot coyotes. He yells “Ara-hoo!” with the might of his lungs to stir them.

Sometimes, his dogs see the prey first. One day last month, they barked and whined at a coyote in the distance. Hardzog maneuvered his truck closer, then he yanked a pulley to open a pen. Four dogs leapt out.

They raced about a quarter-mile until they spotted the coyote. They homed in for the kill out of Hardzog’s sight.

Several hours of hunting took a toll on his dogs. Four were bitten by coyotes. Barbed wire opened a five-inch wound on one dog’s left foreleg, exposing muscle. Another had split its nose.

Hardzog injected the injured dogs with penicillin, B12 and a steroid to reduce swelling and fight infection. As he sprayed wound treatment, the dogs trembled.

His way of killing coyotes, he insisted, is the most humane, but he worries that his favorite sport will be banned.

“Probably 99.9 percent of the people that’s going to protest it never been, don’t have an idea of what a coyote is or what a greyhound is,” Hardzog said. “To me, they don’t even have a right to draw an opinion. They can pass all the laws they want to, but the good Lord is going to do all the judging.”

Coyote vs. Greyhound - The Battle Lines Are Drawn - NYTimes.com


T.D. Carlisle
Two Oklahoma hunters pose with their dogs and coyote remains in the winter of 1928.



Fred R. Conrad/The New York Times
John Hardzog with his dogs and a recent kill in the 1960’s.


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Old 04-27-2010, 12:05 AM   #2
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Now that article is veerrryyyy interesting.

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The boys on the brother site to this one would love this article btw.
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Old 04-27-2010, 03:00 AM   #3
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Well... they are originally a hunting breed. I bet they like doing it. Nature ain't always pretty and the coyotes gotta go one way or another.
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Old 04-27-2010, 07:23 AM   #4
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Thats an interesting article. I think he should be able to kill the coyotes. Better than having them running all about killing the chickens, pets, and livestock. Coyotes are cute, but if they were hurting my creatures, i'd want to be able to hunt them too. Hunting is way more humane than trapping them. Traps catch other creatures too. Could end up being some endangered species. Let the guy hunt with his dogs
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Old 04-27-2010, 08:52 AM   #5
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That is interesting. Sounds better than what a neighbor of mine used to do in Colorado. He would set traps then go out and shoot then coyotes if they first were still there or if they were alive.
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Old 04-27-2010, 09:47 AM   #6
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Very interesting article.
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Old 04-27-2010, 10:20 AM   #7
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Good stuff. I wish those humaniac interlopers would mind their fuckin' business and stop trying to change every damn thing when it comes to animals and bloodsports.
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:29 PM   #8
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Great read. I saw my first greyhounds at petsmart last year when they had a greyhound rescue group there. I didn't realize how big and muscular they were. Very impressive looking.
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Old 04-27-2010, 04:30 PM   #9
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IMO, this is something that should be left alone....
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Old 04-27-2010, 07:43 PM   #10
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Nice article.

I have always wanted to course with my hounds, but we can't do where I live. In California it was still legal to course hare.

In Argentina I've seen several people crossing Greyhounds with Dogos to hunt hogs. Greyhounds are excellent hunters, but have paper thin skin. Hence the reason crosses are common. Especially with hairy dogs.

Greyhounds skin is really their biggest downfall. What would be a small cut on a bulldog, will rip wide open on Greyhound.
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Old 04-27-2010, 08:00 PM   #11
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That makes me wonder, why don't working greyhound breeders start building up GH's with thicker skin? I mean, they're in a rough line of work...

Nice read, I don't know much about GH's but I do love them, they are real working dogs.
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Old 04-27-2010, 08:10 PM   #12
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I'd like to hang out with that man sometime, and get to see his dogs in action. Sounds thrilling!
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Old 04-27-2010, 09:29 PM   #13
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“These people, they just live in a different world now,” he said. “They don’t have no cattle. Don’t have no chickens. They just got little yippy poodles. Nobody hardly even knows what it is to hunt coyote with greyhounds. But they ought to. Coyotes love to kill little poodles and cats.”


Really interesting!!! Greyhound dogs have an excellent temperment too.Coyotes are a big problem in alot of areas.The point this guy makes about pets becoming Coyote food is spot on.
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Old 04-27-2010, 10:02 PM   #14
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i would love to spend a weekend with this guy and his dogs
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:46 AM   #15
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This is darn cool!
I like all predators, wolves, coyotes, bears. But like anything else too many of them leads to problems. This is a great way to cull!!
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:02 PM   #16
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That makes me wonder, why don't working greyhound breeders start building up GH's with thicker skin? I mean, they're in a rough line of work...

Nice read, I don't know much about GH's but I do love them, they are real working dogs.
I think it had to do with how they are built. No body fat for one. Plus Greyhounds have a lot differences between other dogs. I have to get back to work, but I'll see if I can find my paper on it. Things like more blood pumps thru their heart at a faster rate, different CBC levels, etc.
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:10 PM   #17
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Fantastic read!
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:30 AM   #18
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Some info on Greyhound health (note, this is based on racing Greyhounds )

http://www.greyhoundadoptionofoh.org..._Packet_08.pdf
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