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Old 02-18-2010, 04:30 PM   #1
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Default Potential owner packet
I made a post before about trying to make a foster packet for potential adopters, well here it is! I made some of if, got some from this site, some from other sites. Let me know if you think of anything I should add. I also have the "special cases" other info that I did not add in here such as introducing to a baby, and developmental stages of a puppy. Here is the STANDARD packet though:

So You Want a Pit Bull?

You've made up your mind, it's the American Pit Bull Terrier you want as your companion. Are you ready for this breed? Read this article and then decide if you want to go ahead with your decision.
Does your lifestyle fit the American Pit Bull Terrier lifestyle?
These dogs are packed with energy from head to toe. Craving a good run like a champion athlete. Exercise is critical to a heathy, happy bulldog.
High energy is their middle name and is a large part of their personalities. Play, work, and activity is something you must be able to give these dogs
If you're a couch potato you should find another breed to live with.
Do you have the security?
Pit Bull's are the Houdini's of the canine world. Able to leap tall fences with a single bound, dig under them with amazing speed and stealth, and unlock gates that adult people would have trouble with.
Escape will happen if you don't take the precautions to secure their living area.
You should have 6' privacy fence, beware of dog signs, hot wiring at the top and bottom of the fence, out door housing that keeps them out of the sun (even if they live indoors), and supervision are required for these dogs. You can't leave them alone for long outside because one of two things may happen:

  1. They Escape



  1. They're Stolen

Are you prepared for the scrutiny of neighbors and friends?
American Pit Bull Terriers are notorious. They have a bad name and the misinformed public is out to get them.
It seems like everyday another "mauled by pit bull" story runs, diminishing your choice of breed.
People will dislike you for your choice. Some may even try to kill your dog. Others will direct comments at you, vulgar, hateful comments, and friends and family may also be in conflict with your choice.
Be prepared for some rude behavior and protect your dog by teaching food refusal from strangers.
Can you train your dog?
There are two methods of training. One is to train your dog by showing it how to sit and lay down and then quitting. The other lasts forever.
Real training is life long training that starts when the puppy arrives at your home and ends with death.
Unless you're prepared to work with your dog 5-10-15 minutes per day, everyday, all week, every week, all year, every year, you may want to rethink your decision to get a Pit Bull.
Actually, if you're not prepared to train your dog, you should rethink getting any dog. Training is a fact of life and must be done in order to prevent a lot of trouble down the road.

If you can not control your dog, you don't need one.
Can you afford them?
Dog food, vet bills, training, leashes and collars, and dog houses all cost money.
Money you may not have right now. A quality dog food can cost as much as $800 per year.
Do you have this kind of extra money to spend on food? If not, wait until you do before you bring home that puppy.
Do you want a Pit Bull to impress people?
If this is the case, stop! Do not, repeat, do not bring one home. You're doing yourself and the dog a great injustice.

American Pit Bull Terriers are in demand because of their all around strength, agility, great looks, and mystic. Breeders are pumping puppies out like unleaded gasoline.
Puppies are being neglected and bad breeding practices are producing unstable dogs. Beware before you make any final decisions.
If I may point you in a different direction. Every day there are thousands of great bulldogs put down because no one will adopt them or they are deemed "unadoptable" by shelters.
Consider a Rescue Dog.
People who love this breed have created rescues for these dogs and hundreds of dogs are available for adoption.
Rescues are a win-win-win way to go. You give a dog that would otherwise not have a home, a home.
You give your money (which in most cases is a small adoption fee) to the rescue so they can continue their work, and you get an awesome dog that will 9 times out of 10 deliver more than any pure-bred dog could on their best day.
In closing, before you run out and buy a American Pit Bull Terrier, think about your options, make sure you have what it takes to provide and care for the dog, and take your time to find a dog that matches your desires.


HISTORY Disclaimer: The origin of the American Pit Bull Terrier is not set in stone. Clear cut records of their development before modern history are not available and the exact origin of the breed is debatable.

What you will learn here is my take on the origins of the American Pit Bull Terrier based on over 2,000 hours of research of material both on and off the world wide web.
Keep in mind this article is a brief overview of the breeds history.
Terrier or bulldog what is the American Pit Bull Terrier? Popular belief is the bulldog of old was crossed with the now extinct English White Terrier to create what we call the American Pit Bull Terrier.
However it is important to remember that no one really knows this for sure.
Personally I believe if there was a cross, the extinct English White Terrier would have to be the most likely candidate. However, that's if there was a cross at all.
Some believe the dogs of today are largely unchanged and are the "pure" bulldog of old.
Again, this is highly questionable but it does hold water. If you read stories and view prints and paintings of old bull baiting dogs you could easily be talking about the modern American Pit Bull Terrier.
In the picture to the right you can see the resemblance of the two bulldogs to the American Pit Bull Terrier of today.
On the subject of whether or not the American Pit Bull Terrier is a result of a crossing of bulldogs of old and the extinct White Terrier you have to draw your own opinion.
American Pit Bull Terriers are only good for Dog Fighting Throughout the history of the bulldog dog fighting patiently waited along side the larger more expensive events like bull baiting and bear baiting.
Here's where historians and people interested in the history of the breed really cross their wires and get confused. After spending literally years trying to figure this out I have come to the following conclusion.
Dog fighting has always been a sport in which bulldogs were involved. It was extremely popular during the hay day of bull baiting too.
The poor people of England and Ireland started to focus on dog fights because they were cheaper, easier to stage, and easier to hide (it was made illegal along with bull baiting in 1875) from authorities.
Since it was such a low-key event authorities often turned their heads to the fact dog fights were being held in their areas.
How much did dog fighting influence the development of the American Pit Bull Terrier? I personally think it had very little impact on the breed as a whole.
Since these dogs were already baiting bulls, fighting bears, and engaging in dog on dog combat long before they came to America the dog fighting aspect of their history is the most important because it was continued to this day.
Modern Pit Bulls have proved they are not only good at fighting, but they excel at just about anything their people put in front of them. Whether they are running agility, pulling weights in excess of 2,000 lbs, working cattle, earning obedience titles or catching hogs, American Pit Bull Terriers are far more than fighting dogs.
Where did they come from? England, Ireland, or some place else? Another common misconception is the breed is from England. I beg to differ. The breed was well established in Ireland as too.

J.P. Colby's line of dogs is reported to be heavy with Irish Pit Bull blood. He even paid for Irish men to come to America if they would bring a "good bulldog or two with them."
As we get into modern history the name of the American Pit Bull Terrier was changed several times and was finally changed to American Pit Bull Terrier to include the word, "pit" in the name.

Out of all the breeds that are referred to as the "pitbull" the American Pit Bull Terrier is the only breed with the actual words "Pit Bull" in their name.
I won't even get into the whole registry problem of naming the breed. It's laughable at best.

I will say this, the American Staffordshire Terrier was started off American Pit Bull Terriers and the fact the American Kennel Club does not recognize the APBT as a purebred dog is hilarious.

The original standard for the Amstaff was based on a Colby American Pit Bull Terrier.
Politics and image resulted in a different strain of American Pit Bull Terrier, we call this strain, The American Staffordshire Terrier.
The United Kennel Club started hosting fights and registering Pit Bulls and then the American Dog Breeders Association came along because they felt the UKC was not doing a great job representing the breed.
As far as history is concerned the American Pit Bull Terrier is a pure dog fighting dog that is supposed to be used for dog fighting. Despite the ample amount of evidence to prove otherwise.
More dogs lived as farm dogs and household pets than fighting dogs. This is also proven by the breeders records of the time.
The American Pit Bull Terrier Today Today the American Pit Bull Terrier is still used for dog fighting, bull baiting and bear baiting. Japan and Pakistan are both countries that host such events.

In 2004 bear baiting events were on the rise in Pakistan. Illegal events were being hosted all over the country and authorities were slow to react.
Many of these contests used imported American Pit Bull Terriers on the Bears.

In the picture to the left, two Pit Bulls or Pit Bull type dogs are engaging a baited bear in Pakistan. (2004)
Despite their misuse the American Pit Bull Terrier is still a truly versatile canine that continues to astonish people with their ability to adapt and overcome anything that is asked of them.
Dog fighting, bear baiting, and other barbaric acts of cruelty while still very much alive and well show only a small portion of the APBT's true ability.
Agility, protection sports, obedience, therapy dogs, search and rescue dogs, drug and bomb detection dogs, are all activities the modern American Pit Bull Terrier excels at.
A large part of their history is made up of blood and battle. This is not something to shrink away from as a fancier of the breed. Their history should be embraced, understood, and once we have a full understanding, we can control the future.
Purists who think they are "only good for fighting" need to wake up and smell the coffee. Change will happen and fighting and blood sports is the first place we should focus our efforts.
The History of the American Pit Bull Terrier Summed Up History is the recording of the past or the telling of the past. As I mentioned above the history of the Pit Bull is filled with blood and battles against all kinds of animals including their own kind.
We can not change the history of the breed. We can however change the history our children's children will be writing about in the future.
History shows us where we, as people, made grave mistakes in judgment and where we made great improvements.
I for one am grateful of my breeds history. It has helped shape them into the greatest dogs known to man.
With that said, our actions from this point on will dictate if they stay the greatest dogs known to man or if our actions will cause their total annihilation from our society.
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RESPONSIBLE OWNERSHIP 1.Exercise your dog everyday. Pit Bulls are high energy dogs that need some way of burning off that pent up energy. Even a short 10-15 minute walk or game of fetch in the backyard will help burn off energy that can lead to behavior problems.
2. Never leave pit bulls alone with other dogs (or any animal). Even if you're dog gets along great 99.9% of the time with other animals the Pit Bull is known for animal aggression and it is possible something will happen. A good piece of advice I received a long time ago was, Never trust your Pit Bull not to fight.
3. Always have your dog on a leash in public. Most if not all towns, cities and states have leash laws. Obey these laws. This will help people see your dog in a positive light and keep accidents like getting hit by passing cars from occuring.
4. Always supervise your dogs and never allow them to roam free. Loose dogs are often hurt by cruel people and accidents can happen as well. Always know where your dog is.
5. Supervise your dog with small children. This is a must. Small children are often hurt by dogs not out of angry, but because dogs can scratch them, step on them, and otherwise injure them.
6. Spay or Neuter your dog. Unless you plan on doing something where the dog can not be spayed or neutered get it done. This will reduce accidental breedings and stop roaming males from getting loose.
7. Train your dog. Take your dog to obedience classes or hire a private trainer to help you train your dog. This is very important for Pit Bull owners. If you can not control your dog bad things will eventually happen. Get your dog into training as soon as possible.
8. Avoid dog parks. Dog parks are a breeding ground for disaster. Young dogs have been killed in dog parks by bigger dogs and taking your dog to a dog park is simply not a good idea at all. A better choice is to enroll your puppy into puppy socalization classes. If you have a rescue dog I would also recommend these types of classes as well. Some trainers do have them for older dogs. Your dog will have a far better chance at proper socialization in one of these classes than at a dog park.
9. Socialize your dog. Take your dog to as many places as you can, meet new people and while they are young meet as many other dogs as possible. Socializing your Pit Bull will help curb any future problems that might occur.
10. Keep your dog properly confined. Pit Bulls are known to be great escape artist. Make sure you have the means to keep them in your yard and properly confined. Installing a six foot privacy fence is not a bad idea either.
Responsible ownership starts from the time your Pit Bull comes to live with you. Irresponsible owner's are one of the major causes for all the problems the breed faces today. It's our hope here at Pit Bull Lovers we can spread the word and educate more owners to take responsibility for their dogs actions.

In order for things to change, we must change the way we look at our own actions and how they effect the world around us. Until we do that, things will simply stay the way they are right now.

FEEDING
Feeding your American Pit Bull Terrier is a lot more involved than running down to the grocery store and picking up a bag of Kibbles and Bits or Atta Boy. Your new family member requires a more balanced and healthy diet to live a long and happy life.
Pit Bulls are known for their skin issues. Many of them are allergic to most of the staple ingredients in your grocery store dog food. Wheat, Corn and Soy are the most common ingredients as well as the most common allergens. Cutting these things out of your dogs diet will help your dog keep a glossy coat instead of one that is bristly and dry. Pit Bulls are also prone to lowered immune systems usually due to food allergies and these lowered immune systems can trigger Demodectic Mange. Demodectic Mange is treatable but the first thing to do to cure it or just plain avoid it would be feeding the proper food.
Pick a food that uses no Corn, Wheat or Soy. There are plenty of them out there and it may be a little more inconvenient than running to the corner store, but it’s well worth it and your dog will thank you. Check out http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index....betterproducts and http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/ for more information on how to know what makes up a great food.
Below is a list of recommended foods and their websites where you can find places to buy them. There are plenty of great foods out there…..

Canidae - www.canidae.com
Solid Gold - www.solidgoldhealth.com
Canine Caviar - www.caninecaviar.com
Timberwolf - www.timberwolforganics.com
Merrick - www.merrickpetcare.com
Natures Variety - www.naturesvariety.com
Pinnacle - www.breeders-choice.com/pinnacle.htm

Natura makes both California Natural and Innova, both good choices!
http://www.naturapet.com/brands/california-natural.asp
http://www.naturapet.com/brands/innova.asp

A RAW diet can also be beneficial to this breed. Read more about it here: http://rawfed.com/

Supplements are also useful and can be added to any dog food. We recommend using:

http://www.mirabeau.org/supplements.htm



Renting With Your Dog Regardless of Breed

1. Bring your well trained dog with you to meet the landlords. It’s easy to decline dog owners on the phone, but so much harder when they meet a great applicant and lovely dog in person. Be polite no matter how they respond. Many a landlord has been moved to give applicants a try when they act calm, professional, and show a willingness to address their concerns.

2. Make an eye-catching pet resume. Include cute photos and letters of recommendation from your vet, neighbors, and trainers, showing how well-liked your dog is and how responsible you are. Describe any arrangements you make for your pet while you’re at work or away on vacation.

3. Earn your dog’s CGC title. Ask your trainer how to help your dog become a Canine Good Citizen. This impressive certification helps show landlords that your pet is able to demonstrate the best manners.

4. Offer to purchase renter’s insurance that covers your dog. Liability is every property owner’s biggest concern, so help put them at ease. It is a small price to pay to help your landlord feel good about renting to you. Notes: Nationwide insurance Company will cover any dog that has his CGC title. State Farm Insurance does not refuse insurance coverage based on your dog’s breed.

5. Offer an additional pet deposit to help cover any damages. If you can afford it, this extra cost may be worth it if your dog is able to remain a part of your family.

6. Do not lie about or hide your dog. You’re much safer if you stay honest and if you have the landlord add your dog’s name and breed to the lease. If you decide to hide your dog, you’re at the mercy of ill-informed neighbors who might turn you in! Landlords are more likely to evict dogs when they’re pressured by neighbors or they’re caught off guard.

7. Be an awesome tenant. Pick up after your dog. Don’t let him bark non-stop or annoy others. Don’t let him run loose. Let willing neighbors meet your well-behaved pet so they can support you in ownership. Consider inviting them over for some enjoyable ‘get to know’ time. Wear a thick skin and be polite to those that are ruse or afraid. Make it your mission to help them realize you’re a thoughtful, responsible dog owner with a well loved pet!

8. Be resourceful and persistent. Craigslist (craigslist.org) is a great resource for dog friendly housing ads. You may want to consider placing a ‘Housing Wanted’ ad on this same website.

More links to help you locate pet friendly housing: peoplewithpets.com • rent.com • apartmentsource.com

9. Be patient. It can take time to find a rental that will alow your pet, but patience will pay off. If you’re ina pinch, consider boarding your pet at your vet’s office or boarding facility to keep him safe while you hunt for a pet friendly rental.


MYTHS Myth: Pit Bulls have locking jaw! Or Pit Bulls Bite harder than other breeds!
Truth: NO, they don’t.
Fact: “No, they do not have either. Dr. I Lehr Brisbin of the University of Georgia states, "To the best of our knowledge, there are no published scientific studies that would allow any meaningful comparison to be made of the biting power of various breeds of dogs. There are, moreover, compelling technical reasons why such data describing biting power in terms of 'pounds per square inch' can never be collected in a meaningful way. All figures describing biting power in such terms can be traced to either unfounded rumor or, in some cases, to newspaper articles with no foundation in factual data."
Furthermore, Dr. Brisbin states, "The few studies which have been conducted of the structure of the skulls, mandibles and teeth of pit bulls show that, in proportion to their size, their jaw structure and thus its inferred functional morphology, is no different than that of any breed of dog. There is absolutely no evidence for the existence of any kind of 'locking mechanism' unique to the structure of the jaw and/or teeth of the American Pit Bull Terrier."

Myth: Pit Bulls brains swell and make them go crazy!
Truth: No, again this is an untruth. This was a popular myth when Dobermans were the “fad” breed as well. The Doberman’s popularity has declined and now the Pit Bull has seemed to inherit this myth.
Fact: Their brains grow at the same rate as any other dog, and the only time that a Pit Bull's brain is going to swell is if it receives a serious injury. If an animal's brain were to grow too big for its head, the animal would die.

Myth: Pit Bulls that are aggressive towards dogs will become aggressive towards people!
Truth: False! Dog aggression and Human Aggression (DA and HA) are two completely different types of aggression and are NOT related.
Fact: It is true that Pit bulls may be aggressive towards other dogs. People often think because a dog attacks another dog (dog-aggression), it will likely attack a person (human aggression). Aggression towards humans is a completely separate behavior than aggression towards other dogs; just because a dog doesn’t like other dogs does not mean it won’t like people. Think of it this way: Pit Bulls historically were bred for dog fighting. With dog fighting humans were always in the pit medically treating and handling the dog, all while the dog was in full fight mode. A dog that turned on a person while in this fight mode was euthanized and never bred. This is how the breeders and fighters ensured the low human aggression that the breed displays today. It was bred NOT to be human aggressive. If you have a pit bull that is then it is not a standard of the breed and should be euthanized instead of rehabilitated. "In reviewing and studying over 448 cases of fatal dog attacks in the United States, it is apparent that the three most critical factors that contribute to a fatal dog attack are: function of the dog, owner responsibility and reproductive status of the dog. There is no documented case where a single, neutered, household pit bull was the cause of a human fatality.” Karen Delise, Author of Fatal Dog Attacks


Myth: Pit Bulls don’t feel pain!
Truth: That is completely untrue.
Fact: Pit Bulls have a nervous system just like any other breed of dog. While breeders that fought their Pit Bulls would breed the dogs that were winners in the pit and were more tolerant to pain. This is one example of what is called “gameness” Gameness is the “desire to continue on and/or complete a task despite pain and discomfort.”

Myth: It’s all in how you raise them!
Truth: No, genetics play a huge role in Pit Bulls and while you can try…. You cannot “untrain” 150+ years of hardwired dog aggression out of the breed.
Fact: Pit Bulls were created, raise and bred to fight. That is something we cannot ignore or change. History is what it is and with your pit bull, it is not “all in how you raise them.” They are a sweet natured and people-loving breed, regardless of how they are raised. There have been many documented cases of Pit Bulls suffering horrible pain and abuse at the hands of people, and still wag their tail and offer kisses to their saviors. These Pit Bulls have never been shown a kind thing in their lives, and still they accept and love people. THIS is what makes the breed stand apart from all others, their love for human touch and regardless of “how you raise them”, a genetically sound and correct to temperament Pit Bull…. Will love people. Period.

Myth: Pit Bulls make good guard dogs!
Truth: Pit Bulls are not a guardian breed and do not make good guard dogs. They are very people-friendly and would rather lick an intruder than bite them.
Fact: Pit Bulls were a created breed and mainly bred to fight other dogs. They were bred to be extremely friendly towards their handlers and strangers and their aggressiveness was geared towards dogs. Pit Bulls were not bred for their ability to guard the hearth, home and livestock and they do not make good protection dogs because of the lack of wariness of strangers. They should readily accept new people in unfamiliar situations and should never bite. Guarding and protection breeds are the Mastiffs, the German Shepard’s and the Rottweilers. These breeds have been bred and conditioned for guarding and protection and have the correct temperament for the job.
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Old 02-18-2010, 04:32 PM   #3
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  • Weight Pull - Pit Bulls excel at this sport. For more information on how to get involved visit: Internation Weight Pull Association. Note - If you are a member of the ADBA or UKC they also have weight pull events. Visit UKCdogs.com and ADBA.cc for details on their pulling events.



  • UKC Obendience - Obedience is a skill that is a must have in today's world. The UKC and the ADBA both have obedience trials. You can have fun and at the same time train your dog to be a model canine citizen.



  • CGC Training-CGC is a certification program that is designed to reward dogs who have good manners at home and in the community. The Canine Good Citizen Program is a two-part program that stresses responsible pet ownership for owners and basic good manners for dogs. All dogs who pass the 10-step CGC test may receive a certificate from the American Kennel Club.



  • Agility - These high octane trials showcase the American Pit Bull Terrier's skill as an all-round athlete. Not to mention they are just plain fun! See Pit Bulls and Agility for a bit more information



  • DockDog Competitions - If your dog loves the water and loves to fetch this is the activity for them. DockDogs competition's are becoming more popular with American Pit Bull Terrier owner's. They are fun as all get out!



  • French Ring Sport - In our humble opinion this is one of the most demanding dog sports in the world today. Check out the North American Ring Sport Association's site for complete details.



  • FlyBall.org - Flyball is a fast past sport where dogs run down a lane, jumping over hurdles and pounce on a box that shoots a ball into their mouth. Once they have the ball they turn around and sprint back to their owner. For more information visit the "flyball.org" link above. Here's another site that will give you some information as well. FlyBallDogs.com






How to Crate Train Your Dog Otherwise Known As How To Keep Your Dog Safe and Your Sanity Intact!

Used properly, crate training has become an invaluable tool for dogs and their people. It provides your dog with a safe, cozy den of it's own, and gives you peace of mind that your dog can be left safely unattended for short periods of time. Here are the basics to get you started.

Choosing the Right Crate
There are several different styles of crates available today. There are airline cargo styles, hard sided, with two pieces (top and bottom), that can be separated. This style crate usually has one or two heavy grate doors, are very sturdy, and can be used for transporting a dog in-flight if need be.
The second crate style is a wire mesh crate, open on all four sides for good ventilation, with a plastic pan on the bottom. This crate can also have one or more doors, and many of them are foldable for easy transport and storage.
Even if you have a 15 pound puppy, choose the crate that will accommodate the dog as a full grown adult comfortably. It should be large enough for the dog to stand up in, turn around, and sleep with some leg room.
When you start out with a puppy, make the crate small enough with a divider (either the one that comes with the crate, or even a box will do), so that the puppy has just enough room to once again turn around and sleep in comfortably. Adjust the crate size as the puppy grows.

Training the Dog To Accept His New Home
Set the crate up in a part of the house that has some traffic and activity, the kitchen is usually a good spot, but wherever the family congregates the most is fine. Leave the crate door open, and allow the dog to inspect it at his leisure. Then take a really good treat, chicken or hotdogs work well, and hold it in the crate, or throw it in gently, and allow the dog to get his treat. When the dog goes into the crate to retrieve his goodie, say a command as he's walking in, such as "Crate up" or Kennel Up". Be sure to use the same command every time. Then when the pup becomes comfortable walking in, shut the gate behind him. Only keep the pup in for a minute, and then let him out, once again, praising him profusely. Keep doing this, lengthening the time by several minutes each time. If the pup starts to whine or cry, do not let him out! That will only teach the pup that crying is a way to get out. Instead, wait until he stops, even if it's for a moment, and then let him out, telling him what a good pup he is. He will soon make the connection that quiet = out. One good idea is also to make sure the pup has a good play session before crate training, so that he is tired, and may go in more willingly to lay down.
Once the dog has accepted the crate, put him in for short periods throughout the day, so that he becomes accustomed to going in. You just may find that after a few days, he'll go into his den without any asking on your part! Putting a suitable toy in the crate is fine as well, anything you can do to make his home more inviting is good. An old shirt of yours will also make the pup feel more at ease, but only when supervised, or if you know he won't shred it.
The rule of thumb for crating time is for however many months of age the pup is, you can add on an hour, i.e. if the pup is 4 months old, you can crate him for 5 hours. But please keep in mind that this is only a guideline, and all dogs should have plenty of exercise and free time to balance out the crating!
Once you've crate trained your pup, you won't know how you did without it before!
Also things to keep in mind:
-DO NOT let the dog out if it cries: that just enforces crying. IE: if you cried and got a cookie each time would you cry more?
-DO feed your dog in the crate: It shows them good things happen when they are in their crate
-DO give treats randomly when they are in the crate and QUIET: see above
-DO give toys to keep them busy: make sure they are safe
-DO NOT use the crate as punishment: this is their safe heaven use a bathroom instead


NILIF TRAINING Nothing in Life is Free

Undesirable behavior can be caused by many things, including undetected illness. No behavior modification program should begin without first taking the dog to a veterinarian for a complete physical examination. While you're there, give your vet a printed copy of this page and ask if it would be an appropriate technique for you to try. The NILIF program is an accepted standard in dog training/behavior but it is not, and is not intended to be, a substitute for an in-person, professional evaluation of your dog's behavior. This technique is intended for dogs in good health and of sound mind and stable temperament.


The NILIF program is remarkable because it's effective for such a wide variety of problems. A shy, timid dog becomes more relaxed knowing that he has nothing to worry about, his owner is in charge of all things. A dog that's pushing too hard to become "top dog" learns that the position is not available and that his life is far more enjoyable without the title.

It is equally successful with dogs that fall anywhere between those two extremes. The program is not difficult to put into effect and it's not time consuming if the dog already knows a few basic obedience commands. I've never seen this technique fail to bring about a positive change in behavior, however, the change can be more profound in some dogs than others. Most owners use this program in conjunction with other behavior modification techniques such as coping with fear or treatment for aggression. It is a perfectly suitable technique for the dog with no major behavior problems that just needs some fine tuning.

ATTENTION ON DEMAND
The program begins by eliminating attention on demand. When your dog comes to you and nudges your hand, saying "pet me! pet me!" ignore him. Don't tell him "no", don't push him away. Simply pretend you don't notice him. This has worked for him before, so don't be surprised if he tries harder to get your attention. When he figures out that this no longer works, he'll stop. In a pack situation, the top ranking dogs can demand attention from the lower ranking ones, not the other way around. When you give your dog attention on demand you're telling him that he has more status in the pack than you do. Timid dogs become stressed by having this power and may become clingy. They're never sure when you'll be in charge so they can't relax. What if something scary happens, like a stranger coming in the house? Who will handle that? The timid dog that is demanding of attention can be on edge a lot of the time because he has more responsibility than he can handle.

Some dogs see their ability to demand attention as confirmation that they are the "alpha", then become difficult to handle when told to "sit" or "down" or some other demand is placed on them. It is not their leadership status that stresses them out, it's the lack of consistency. They may or may not actually be alpha material, but having no one in the pack that is clearly the leader is a bigger problem than having the dog assume that role full time. Dogs are happiest when the pack order is stable. Tension is created by a constant fluctuation of pack leadership.

EXTINCTION BURSTS
Your dog already knows that he can demand your attention and he knows what works to get that to happen. As of today, it no longer works, but he doesn't know that yet. We all try harder at something we know works when it stops working. If I gave you a twenty dollar bill every time you clapped your hands together, you'd clap a lot. But, if I suddenly stopped handing you money, even though you were still clapping, you'd clap more and clap louder. You might even get closer to me to make sure I was noticing that you were clapping. You might even shout at me "Hey! I'm clapping like crazy over here, where's the money?". If I didn't respond at all, in any way, you'd stop. It wasn't working anymore. That last try -- that loud, frequent clapping is an extinction burst. If, however, during that extinction burst, I gave you another twenty dollar bill you'd be right back in it. It would take a lot longer to get you to stop clapping because you just learned that if you try hard enough, it will work.

When your dog learns that the behaviors that used to get him your attention don't work any more he's going to try harder and he's going to have an extinction burst. If you give him attention during that time you will have to work that much harder to get him turned around again. Telling him "no" or pushing him away is not the kind of attention he's after, but it's still attention. Completely ignoring him will work faster and better.

YOU HAVE THE POWER
As the human and as his owner you have control of all things that are wonderful in his life. This is the backbone of the NILIF program. You control all of the resources. Playing, attention, food, walks, going in and out of the door, going for a ride in the car, going to the dog park. Anything and everything that your dog wants comes from you. If he's been getting most of these things for free there is no real reason for him to respect your leadership or your ownership of these things. Again, a timid dog is going to be stressed by this situation, a pushy dog is going to be difficult to handle. Both of them would prefer to have you in charge.

To implement the NILIF program you simply have to have your dog earn his use of your resources. He's hungry? No problem, he simply has to sit before his bowl is put down. He wants to play fetch? Great! He has to "down" before you throw the ball. Want to go for a walk or a ride? He has to sit to get his lead snapped on and has to sit while the front door is opened. He has to sit and wait while the car door is opened and listen for the word (I use "OK") that means "get into the car". When you return he has to wait for the word that means "get out of the car" even if the door is wide open. Don't be too hard on him. He's already learned that he can make all of these decisions on his own. He has a strong history of being in control of when he gets these resources. Enforce the new rules, but keep in mind that he's only doing what he's been taught to do and he's going to need some time to get the hang of it all.

You're going to have to pay attention to things that you probably haven't noticed before. If you feed your dog from your plate do you just toss him a green bean? No more. He has to earn it. You don't have to use standard obedience commands, any kind of action will do. If your dog knows "shake" or "spin around" or "speak" use those commands. Does your dog sleep on your bed? Teach him that he has to wait for you to say "OK" to get on the bed and he has to get down when you say "off". Teach him to go to his bed, or other designated spot, on command. When he goes to his spot and lays down tell him "stay" and then release him with a treat reward. Having a particular spot where he stays is very helpful for when you have guests or otherwise need him out of the way for a while. It also teaches him that free run of the house is a resource that you control. There are probably many things that your dog sees as valuable resources that I haven't mentioned here.

The NILIF program should not be a long, drawn out process. All you need to do is enforce a simple command before allowing him access to what he wants. Dinner, for example, should be a two or three second encounter that consists of nothing more than saying "sit", then "good dog!", then putting the bowl down and walking away.

ATTENTION AND PLAY
Now that your dog is no longer calling the shots you will have to make an extra effort to provide him with attention and play time. Call him to you, have him "sit" and then lavish him with as much attention as you want. Have him go get his favorite toy and play as long as you both have the energy. The difference is that now you will be the one initiating the attention and beginning the play time. He's going to depend on you now, a lot more than before, to see that he gets what he needs. What he needs most is quality time with you. This would be a good time to enroll in a group obedience class. If his basic obedience is top notch, see about joining an agility class or fly ball team.

NILIF DOES *NOT* MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO RESTRICT THE AMOUNT OF ATTENTION YOU GIVE TO YOUR DOG. The NILIF concept speaks to who initiates the attention (you!), not the amount of attention. Go ahead and call your dog to you 100 times a day for hugs and kisses!! You can demand his attention, he can no longer demand yours!

Within a day or two your dog will see you in a whole new light and will be eager to learn more. Use this time to teach new things, such as 'roll over' or learn the specific names of different toys.

If you have a shy dog, you'll see a more relaxed dog. There is no longer any reason to worry about much of anything. He now has complete faith in you as his protector and guide. If you have a pushy dog he'll be glad that the fight for leadership is over and his new role is that of devoted and adored pet.
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LEASH TRAINING Let me start with don't drag your dog while you are trying to train him to walk on a leash. He/She will not ever like the leash. You should make this fun as with any training. I suggest yo start this in the house the first few times.
So if your looking for leash training advice you must me having some problem or just want a jump start on how to get it done. I am going to start as if they never had a collar on.

Start putting the collar on and leave it on. Once they are used to the collar you will want to introduce the leash. Go ahead and put the least on them and try to call them as you start walking. If they start to walk with you, it will be easier to train them.(If this is the case skip the next few steps.)

Lots of you will have a problem with them doing what some call the Gator Roll or flop around like a fish out of water. At this point you will want to stop trying to walk them on the leash. I suggest you drop the leash. Leave the leash connected to the collar. Don't leave your dog unattended while the leash is connected. At this point you will need treats. Get your dogs favorite treat and start calling him/her with the leash connected. Let them drag the leash for a little bit of time.

This is where you will need a friend to help. Have them grab the leash and start walking the dog towards you with the treat in your hand and you calling the dog you will want to do this as much as you need. After the dog walks so many feet give him a treat. Take your time and coax him to come while on the leash. When this starts going well have your helper put tension of the leash at times to get the dog used to you pulling back on the leash. When you get past this part it starts getting easier.

So now its your turn to start doing this by your self. So since your just starting taking him for walks lets also train him to walk next to you. At this point I expect your dog knows how to sit.
Although a lot of people don't think about what side to put your dog.
So I will ask this do you plan to show your dog or are you just training your dog to go on walks? If you plan to show your dog your dog is supposed to be on the left side of you. If you are just taking him out for walks then it is totally up to you.
So start by getting your dog to sit on your left hand side.(Heel/Fooss) Get your treat in your left hand. Put your hand down as if you are going to slide your thumb down your hand the seam of your pants let your dog smell it. Slide your hand back up about 3 inches about your dogs head. Start off with your left foot and say Heel or Fooss and start walking. Try and get them to chase the treat. Walk about 6 feet and tell your dog to sit. When the sit next to you give the treat. Keep doing this drill for a bit.

You will want to slowly start sliding your hand with the treat in it up almost as if you are putting the treat in your front pocket in your pants/shorts. This will start to train your dog to watch you while in the heel position.

Keep practicing the technique above with the Heel walk so many feet and sit, over and over. With in a few weeks your dog will be a heel master. I suggest doing this every day.

At this point your dog will see the leash and get very excited!!!

I hope this helps you on your way to many of happy walks with your beloved pet.
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AGGRESSION

By Jason Mann
The American Pit Bull Terrier or (pitbull, Pit Bull) is a breed known for it's courage and it's ability to take on other dogs.
Dog agression in the pitbull is normal and should not be viewed as a fault or a "problem." Again, dog aggression in the pitbull should not be viewed as a fault or problem.
This article will explore the levels of dog aggression and give you a few tips on how to handle dogs at each level.
For safety's sake, please understand these are not hard and fast rules and some dogs, despite our best efforts, will never change and your handling of them must be adujusted to protect other animals around you.
Finally, dog aggression is completely different and separate from human aggression. A dog aggressive Pit Bull is more times than not extremely friendly towards people. If you have a human aggressive Pit Bull, this dog should be either confined or put to sleep as this is not normal for the breed and is dangerous to the public.
The Levels of Dog Aggression

1. Submissive. At this level the dog shows no or almost no signs of dog aggression. When a submissive dog is met with a challenge they will roll on to their backs and will not respond to attacks or challenges with equal aggression.
If you find yourself with a submissive dog the only suggestion I have is to protect them from other dogs by not allowing other dogs to dominant them or run roughshot over them.
However, if you are allowing new dogs to meet, take precautions that the other dog will not full out attack and harm your dog.
2. Joe-Smoe Dogs. At this level dog aggression is not an issue unless challenged for physically attacked. When challenged or physically attacked the dog will respond with enough aggression to repel the other dog. This is a "generic" level if you will and applies to many breeds.
3. The Happy, Healthy, Normal Pit Bull Terrier. Dog aggression is only displayed when challenged or attacked. They dogs will have to be physically separated with a break stick or by other means.
Pit Bulls at this level always try to make friends when meeting a new dog. However, they are not tolerant of aggressive behavior or displays by the new dog and will react with aggressive behavior towards them.
This is a normal Pit Bull. This is not a crazed dog!
4. Just above Average. Pit Bulls at this level will display aggression towards strange dogs of the same sex quickly while be weary of opposite sex dogs.
If challenged or attacked, they will respond with aggression and must be physically separated in order to stop the fight.
Pit Bulls at this level will accept other dogs of the opposite sex if they are raised together or if the new dog is brought in as a puppy.
5. A Dog Aggressive Pit Bull. Pit Bulls at this level can live with other dogs but will attack any strange dogs. They must be physically separated and fights are serious.
They are okay with puppies, but supervision is required at all times.
Don't think for a minute dog aggression makes your Pit Bull bad. It is normal and it is your job to learn how to manage this common trait of the breed.

6. The Controllable Fool. Highly dog aggressive but can usually live with other dogs if they were raised with them. All other dogs are not welcome and if given the opportunity, a dog at this level will attack any dog within reach.
7. The Uncontrolable Fool. At this level the dog is off-its-rocker and can not be controlled at the sight of another dog. While this level of aggression is not as common as the others it does occur.
A dog at this level should never be left along with any dog for any reason.
Unless you have loads of Pit Bull experience this dog is not recommended for adoption or ownership. They are a danger to animals around them at all times and one must use vigilance to ensure the safety of other dogs.

Tips for Handling the Levels of Aggression

1. No tips recommended. A dog that is submissive is a non-threat. As I mentioned above, take precautions and make sure the other dog is not going to attack your dog and greet them slowly.
2. Take Precautions. At this level of dog aggression your dog will be happy to meet other dogs unless the dog challenges or attacks them. Watch the dogs for signs of stress and aggression.
Stiff legs, hair on their back is rasied, growling, bearing teeth, long intense stares, these are all signs of stress and aggression. If you see them, take the dogs away from one another and try again later.
3. Same as Tip #2. Pay attention for signs of aggression from either dog and separate them if they display one or more of the above signs.
4. Separation. When it comes to strange dogs, I recommend separation at this point in time. In other words, no doggy friends.
If you plan on getting another Pit Bull (not a good idea for the average owner) you will want to start by introducing them on neutral ground over several short meetings. If you plan on bringing home a puppy, introduce them to the home slowly and allow monitor your current dogs reactions closely.
5. Complete Separation. Managing a Pit Bull with above average aggression isn't easy. If you have one dog and they are above average I would not bring any other dogs home, including puppies, and I would suggest avoiding other dogs in public.
6. This also applies to 7 too. Same as five but with one exception. I would completely avoid all other dogs, friend or stranger at all times. Never try to meet and greet a super high dog aggressive Pit Bull with any other dog for any reason.
You will be setting yourself and your dog up for a stressful time that might end badly for all involved.
The PitBull and Dog Aggression Conclusion

I've said it many times in this article, dog aggressive Pit Bulls are normal dogs and should be treated as such.
Precautions should always be taken to protect your dog and other dogs from fighting. As a responsible owner it is your job to protect your dog, not theirs. Read that again because so many people don't understand this point of pitbull ownership.
Our dogs are not supposed to "protect themselves" from other dogs. They shouldn't have to. Our job as responsible owners is to ensure our dogs are safe and by using common sense and planning we can avoid 99% of the situations that would cause a situation like a dog fight to occur.
Allowing a normal Pit Bull to scuffle and "protect themself" from trouble only encouarges their dog aggressive behavior and this can result in a dog that while once was normal, is now off the hook dog aggressive. Especially if they come out on top of the situation. Finally, learning to accept your dogs aggressive behavior is the first step. Your next step is to take the proper steps to manage them safely and keep them safe from harm. Human or animal. Do your job and be their leader and friend.
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Old 02-18-2010, 04:39 PM   #5
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Great stuff in here

I would add under the "food" category:

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Also, breakstick info....
I can provide breakstick info but I would also have to say that the Boston ACO will consider it dog fighting equipment, I dont want my adopters getting their dogs taken on my record! What should I provide? How to break up a fight WITH a breakstick or HOW TO make one?
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Old 02-18-2010, 04:41 PM   #6
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added I am also putting in a disclaimer
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Old 02-18-2010, 04:48 PM   #7
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i love it.. great job are you adding more stuff to it. did you add the DON'T GET A PIT BULL pages?
Don't Get A Pit Bull
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Old 02-18-2010, 04:54 PM   #8
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Please give credit to the various sources you have used for the info above. I recognize a lot of this stuff, word for word.
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Old 02-18-2010, 07:10 PM   #9
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I didn't see any PBC Business cards .......
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Old 02-18-2010, 07:46 PM   #10
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I, personally oppose the "Beware of Dog" signs...however, that depends on the areas and their own local laws but I've known judges that used the "Beware of Dog" signs as an admission of Responsible dog owners having "dangerous/vicious" dogs simply for putting up the "Beware of Dog" signs. Some judges basically said the dog owner knew the dog was aggressive because he posted the signs. I don't know if they were liberal judges or what but I've known some to rule against the owners saying the owners knew they had dangerous dogs. Again, some local ordinances say you must post the signs if you have "Pit Bull" type dogs so then you must follow the law. However, if your area doesn't call for those signs I'd post more of informational signs such as "Dogs in Yard" also "Private Property/No Trespassing" and "Dog(s) on Premises" etc... then the Judges can't rule you have a dangerous dog. The Private Property and No Trespassing signs should really be a must that way it's well known that you are NOT inviting anybody onto your property of course there's an exception to that and that is utility workers who need to conduct their business, they have a right to be on the property if their job calls for it.

I skimmed everything but will look deeper into your posts, it all looks very informational and helpful...overall looks good. Oh, I'm not so sure I agree with the hotwire being requirement for these dogs either... I'll post again after I read more into what you already posted, I'm short on time right now.


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I have several of these "Dogs in Yard" signs

I also have several "Private Property" and "NO Trespassing" signs on my Privacy Fence and even on my front windows of my house. I want Everybody to know they do NOT have an invitation on my property especially when I'm at work. My dogs are kept inside when I'm not home but I still don't want people trespassing or thinking there's an open invitation.
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I think it is a great start...
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Old 02-18-2010, 09:21 PM   #12
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This is just a thought... you can take it or leave it... but I was thinking that even though I agree with your statements about the AKC not recognizing the APBT, I don't think it's very professional to include your personal opinions about it.

Example: "the fact the American Kennel Club does not recognize the APBT as a purebred dog is hilarious." and "I won't even get into the whole registry problem of naming the breed. It's laughable at best."

An informational packet should be as fact based as possible in order to gain respect from it's readers. Again, I agree with your sentiments, I'm just not sure they're appropriate in this packet.

Also, re-read multiple times for simple gramatical/spelling errors. A gramatically correct packet will also be more professional. A couple of small things jumped out at me, but I'm weird like that.

Overall, great job!
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I think you should include something about making an escape proof chain spot as well. A dog won't get off of one as easily as jumping over a 6' fence.
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Old 02-19-2010, 12:34 AM   #14
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Awesome effort. I take my hat off to you!

I have received some similar info acks with some of my dogs from different people and they have been quite helpful from time to time.
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Old 02-19-2010, 12:34 AM   #15
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I thinks its great - I am sure it will be perfect when its done.. I love how you placed the history in there - not only is it making the person(s) rethink the adoption/foster if they are not ready but it also teaches them a lil something of the breed..

as for the beware of dog signs.. We have the no trespassing and private property signs up but we was informed if someone jumps our yard and our dogs bite - without the beware of dog sign - we will be responsable. so I post each one up on each side of the yard.. (even the side that connects to our neighbor.. someone might break into her yard and then ours..
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i love it.. great job are you adding more stuff to it. did you add the DON'T GET A PIT BULL pages?
Don't Get A Pit Bull
OH I SHOULDD!!! Thanks for the reminder! Will do

Please give credit to the various sources you have used for the info above. I recognize a lot of this stuff, word for word.
Thanks, yea I havent gotten around to that part yet, still a rough draft.

I didn't see any PBC Business cards .......
I wrote Michelle today about them

I, personally oppose the "Beware of Dog" signs...however, that depends on the areas and their own local laws but I've known judges that used the "Beware of Dog" signs as an admission of Responsible dog owners having "dangerous/vicious" dogs simply for putting up the "Beware of Dog" signs. Some judges basically said the dog owner knew the dog was aggressive because he posted the signs. I don't know if they were liberal judges or what but I've known some to rule against the owners saying the owners knew they had dangerous dogs. Again, some local ordinances say you must post the signs if you have "Pit Bull" type dogs so then you must follow the law. However, if your area doesn't call for those signs I'd post more of informational signs such as "Dogs in Yard" also "Private Property/No Trespassing" and "Dog(s) on Premises" etc... then the Judges can't rule you have a dangerous dog. The Private Property and No Trespassing signs should really be a must that way it's well known that you are NOT inviting anybody onto your property of course there's an exception to that and that is utility workers who need to conduct their business, they have a right to be on the property if their job calls for it.

I skimmed everything but will look deeper into your posts, it all looks very informational and helpful...overall looks good. Oh, I'm not so sure I agree with the hotwire being requirement for these dogs either... I'll post again after I read more into what you already posted, I'm short on time right now.


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I have several of these "Dogs in Yard" signs

I also have several "Private Property" and "NO Trespassing" signs on my Privacy Fence and even on my front windows of my house. I want Everybody to know they do NOT have an invitation on my property especially when I'm at work. My dogs are kept inside when I'm not home but I still don't want people trespassing or thinking there's an open invitation.
In Boston proper it is the law to have a beware of dogs sign if you have a pitbull

This is just a thought... you can take it or leave it... but I was thinking that even though I agree with your statements about the AKC not recognizing the APBT, I don't think it's very professional to include your personal opinions about it.

Example: "the fact the American Kennel Club does not recognize the APBT as a purebred dog is hilarious." and "I won't even get into the whole registry problem of naming the breed. It's laughable at best."

An informational packet should be as fact based as possible in order to gain respect from it's readers. Again, I agree with your sentiments, I'm just not sure they're appropriate in this packet.

Also, re-read multiple times for simple gramatical/spelling errors. A gramatically correct packet will also be more professional. A couple of small things jumped out at me, but I'm weird like that.

Overall, great job!
Thanks I didnt see that part, not my opinion..borrowed from somewhere. I still need to nit pick all the info for everything...also why I want everyones opinions!

I think you should include something about making an escape proof chain spot as well. A dog won't get off of one as easily as jumping over a 6' fence.
Chaining is about to be made illegal in Mass If it doesnt go through I will add it

I thinks its great - I am sure it will be perfect when its done.. I love how you placed the history in there - not only is it making the person(s) rethink the adoption/foster if they are not ready but it also teaches them a lil something of the breed..

as for the beware of dog signs.. We have the no trespassing and private property signs up but we was informed if someone jumps our yard and our dogs bite - without the beware of dog sign - we will be responsable. so I post each one up on each side of the yard.. (even the side that connects to our neighbor.. someone might break into her yard and then ours..
Thanks, I think many people know NOTHING about the breed before they get them (case in point my tenants)
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Did anyone think of anything else? I am working with a member on making a pamphlet! Well I thought about making one for applicants and one when they actually adopt the dog, that way itll actually fit on a pamphlet The applicant one will have all the general pitbull info and the adoption will have training, chainspot,etc.

Also great news I sent most of the info to Elsa's applicant and she LOVED IT!
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Don't forget the PBC business cards!!
Oh yea, so the post office is either a bunch of Ds or I live in some bizzare world but they said they cant estimate shipping costs for the cards? I dont even know why, they also said it may not ship in an envelope because it may exceed the envelope weight limit! Can you ship them to me and Ill paypal you the $$$ I am about to go nuts with the post office!

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Please give credit to the various sources you have used for the info above. I recognize a lot of this stuff, word for word.
Not that I wont but I checked into it before this for another rescue org and you dont have to site your sources if it is a non-profit.
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I have a coworker considering getting a pit bull... I just sent him the "Don't get a Pit Bull" link. Thanks!!!
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I have a coworker considering getting a pit bull... I just sent him the "Don't get a Pit Bull" link. Thanks!!!
yea I love when people dont think of the fact they will grow up
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