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**Clolmemaexata** · 01-02-2009, 11:28 AM

Thanks for the speedy reply people....
here is a pic of the pup i was talking about...

Im looking to buy another blue boy to add to my family but dont want to have to buy one and find out it isnt ok with the ukc cause of some kink in a pup, if anyone knows a breeder that may send a pup to athens greece it would be great...no bully types please....thanks for all your info...you guys have made my reading of apbt an easy one.

**stadiaKab** · 01-02-2009, 02:49 PM

That pup is "Liver"...very cute

**Clolmemaexata** · 01-02-2009, 04:39 PM

Oh ok "Liver",
Under what color would it be registered as?
Never know unless you ask...right.

**Pataacculakp** · 01-02-2009, 05:11 PM

That pup is still young. My guess is the pigment just hasn't filled in yet.

**maxfreemann** · 01-02-2009, 08:00 PM

I wouldn't call that pup liver. Liver is the same as chocolate, and is a much darker color. He looks similar to the coco fawn on the colors page of APBT Conformation. http://www.apbtconformation.com/colors.htm And his nose is dudley, meaning lacking pigment entirely. It may fill in, or it may not. Of course, if one wanted to breed that dog, you'd want to breed him to a female with very strong pigment only.

**Ikrleprl** · 01-03-2009, 01:18 AM

The names "bluenose", "blacknose", "rednose" are just a physical description on the color of the nose itself...nothing else...

I think some get confused when the parents were say a "bluenose" (Bb,dd) and a "rednose" (bb,Dd) and mate. You could get a "bluenose" (Bb,dd) or a "rednose" (bb,Dd) or a "liver color" (bb,dd) or a "blacknose" (Bb,Dd)...

B=Black
b=brown
D=Full Expression of pigment
d=diluted expression of pigment

(letters in CAPS are dominant genes)

To be honest...I'm still a bit confused. My dog had 1 parent considered to be a blue nose and 1 considered to be a red nose. I never know what to say when people ask me which she is...because her nose looks to be neither to me.

What would you guys say with regard to the dog in my avatar?

OK...actually her nose looks really dark in the avatar. How about this?

**Pataacculakp** · 01-03-2009, 02:00 AM

Jazzy, If someone asks you what color nose your dog has, ask them why it matters. lol.
It doesn't really determine anything, it's just a color. I think that dog's nose would be considered red, though. I believe people put too much stock on nose color to be honest.

**Cucoulkrory** · 01-03-2009, 02:04 AM

I believe people put too much stock on nose color to be honest.

Me too.......and I have absolutely no idea why....

**adactthrd** · 01-03-2009, 02:42 AM

Is that pup APBT or AMBully? Kind of looks Bully to me and I do not think he/she is blue, but then again he/she could darken as it gets older. Nikki darken alot as she got older.

**Ikrleprl** · 01-03-2009, 02:43 AM

Jazzy, If someone asks you what color nose your dog has, ask them why it matters. lol.
It doesn't really determine anything, it's just a color. I think that dog's nose would be considered red, though. I believe people put too much stock on nose color to be honest.

I agree; I've never understood the obsession with noses.

But yes, V.s nose does look red in that picture; but I swear the damn thing changes color.

**maxfreemann** · 01-03-2009, 05:29 AM

Veronica looks like a coco fawn as well, IMO.

**Clolmemaexata** · 02-01-2009, 01:49 AM

Hi everyone,
I have a question....
If anyone can help ill be grateful...
Is it possible to have a blue pitbull pup which has a red nose? is that against any standards...please any info would be much apreciated.
Thanks in advance

**Karpattaisp** · 02-01-2009, 03:23 AM

A blue coated dog can only have a blue nose. It can be a butterfly or dudly nose where parts are pink but that's not the same as a red nosed dog. It's genetics, nothing to do with standards, just not possible. Just like a blue dog can't have a black nose as their pigment is diluted. Someone may pop in with the markers for coloring and a better explanation, I was terrible at genetics in science class.

**stadiaKab** · 02-01-2009, 03:53 AM

The names "bluenose", "blacknose", "rednose" are just a physical description on the color of the nose itself...nothing else...

I think some get confused when the parents were say a "bluenose" (Bb,dd) and a "rednose" (bb,Dd) and mate. You could get a "bluenose" (Bb,dd) or a "rednose" (bb,Dd) or a "liver color" (bb,dd) or a "blacknose" (Bb,Dd)...

B=Black
b=brown
D=Full Expression of pigment
d=diluted expression of pigment

(letters in CAPS are dominant genes)

**Friend_Joe** · 02-01-2009, 04:22 AM

Is it possible to have a blue pitbull pup which has a red nose?

You CAN have a blue dog who has such pale pigment that the nose appears pinkish, and some mistake this for the red of a "red-nose" dog.

It is not a fault in UKC and ADBA conformation standards.

Carla

**Chooriwrocaxz** · 02-01-2009, 06:06 AM

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x.../lifepuppy.jpg

closest to blue rednose you'll see i am sure, and majority of the time the nose gains color pigment as the pup grows. At least with my white dog as a pup his nose was mostly red/splotch and as he matured it turned solid black

**Clolmemaexata** · 02-02-2009, 10:23 AM

Ok i get it...thanks for the help people....
bahamutt99 thanks for the site...it will be helpful.

Here is something else i can use your help with.
As you all probably know by now, Greece is way back in anything concerning the APBT, i guess people here don't register their dog's much and even less people really know much about the breed in general.
We have no show's what so ever, very rarely do we have any meetings...so this is where i need some help....

How would i go about starting something like a pitbull show ring? maybe if i manage to start it and some people do come......it may help change things. I know it is a tough question but your help would be much appreciated.

**Indessasp** · 02-02-2009, 10:51 AM

someone asked me if my pit mix was a blue or red nose, mind you, these were like 10 year old boys. i said to them , BLACK NOSE! HAHA!

**Andrew1978** · 02-02-2009, 12:27 PM

What is WITH the sudden flood of that colour dog, and no one knows what to call it?

If you google image "blue fawn" THAT is what you get the majority of.. people are thinking it IS a form of blue, when it's on the chocolate/brown scale (as opposed to the black, which dilutes into blue).

It's a pretty colour though!

Oh, and in answer to the OP's question.. the pup is displaying a dudley nose, and pigment usually fills in as the pup gets older. (even though it's already been said!)

**Goodwin** · 02-02-2009, 06:34 PM

Lol, and I own the "rainbow" of APBT lol. I got a black, black and white, erd and chocolate

And their noses collaborate

01-02-2009, 11:28 AM	#1
Clolmemaexata Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 410 Senior Member	Thanks for the speedy reply people.... here is a pic of the pup i was talking about... Im looking to buy another blue boy to add to my family but dont want to have to buy one and find out it isnt ok with the ukc cause of some kink in a pup, if anyone knows a breeder that may send a pup to athens greece it would be great...no bully types please....thanks for all your info...you guys have made my reading of apbt an easy one. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-02-2009, 02:49 PM	#2
stadiaKab Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 422 Senior Member	That pup is "Liver"...very cute Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-02-2009, 04:39 PM	#3
Clolmemaexata Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 410 Senior Member	Oh ok "Liver", Under what color would it be registered as? Never know unless you ask...right. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-02-2009, 05:11 PM	#4
Pataacculakp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 463 Senior Member	That pup is still young. My guess is the pigment just hasn't filled in yet. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-02-2009, 08:00 PM	#5
maxfreemann Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 465 Senior Member	I wouldn't call that pup liver. Liver is the same as chocolate, and is a much darker color. He looks similar to the coco fawn on the colors page of APBT Conformation. http://www.apbtconformation.com/colors.htm And his nose is dudley, meaning lacking pigment entirely. It may fill in, or it may not. Of course, if one wanted to breed that dog, you'd want to breed him to a female with very strong pigment only. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-03-2009, 01:18 AM	#6
Ikrleprl Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 534 Senior Member	The names "bluenose", "blacknose", "rednose" are just a physical description on the color of the nose itself...nothing else... I think some get confused when the parents were say a "bluenose" (Bb,dd) and a "rednose" (bb,Dd) and mate. You could get a "bluenose" (Bb,dd) or a "rednose" (bb,Dd) or a "liver color" (bb,dd) or a "blacknose" (Bb,Dd)... B=Black b=brown D=Full Expression of pigment d=diluted expression of pigment (letters in CAPS are dominant genes) To be honest...I'm still a bit confused. My dog had 1 parent considered to be a blue nose and 1 considered to be a red nose. I never know what to say when people ask me which she is...because her nose looks to be neither to me. What would you guys say with regard to the dog in my avatar? OK...actually her nose looks really dark in the avatar. How about this? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-03-2009, 02:00 AM	#7
Pataacculakp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 463 Senior Member	Jazzy, If someone asks you what color nose your dog has, ask them why it matters. lol. It doesn't really determine anything, it's just a color. I think that dog's nose would be considered red, though. I believe people put too much stock on nose color to be honest. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-03-2009, 02:04 AM	#8
Cucoulkrory Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 557 Senior Member	I believe people put too much stock on nose color to be honest. Me too.......and I have absolutely no idea why.... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-03-2009, 02:42 AM	#9
adactthrd Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 434 Senior Member	Is that pup APBT or AMBully? Kind of looks Bully to me and I do not think he/she is blue, but then again he/she could darken as it gets older. Nikki darken alot as she got older. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-03-2009, 02:43 AM	#10
Ikrleprl Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 534 Senior Member	Jazzy, If someone asks you what color nose your dog has, ask them why it matters. lol. It doesn't really determine anything, it's just a color. I think that dog's nose would be considered red, though. I believe people put too much stock on nose color to be honest. I agree; I've never understood the obsession with noses. But yes, V.s nose does look red in that picture; but I swear the damn thing changes color. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-03-2009, 05:29 AM	#11
maxfreemann Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 465 Senior Member	Veronica looks like a coco fawn as well, IMO. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-01-2009, 01:49 AM	#12
Clolmemaexata Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 410 Senior Member	A blue rednose pitbull Hi everyone, I have a question.... If anyone can help ill be grateful... Is it possible to have a blue pitbull pup which has a red nose? is that against any standards...please any info would be much apreciated. Thanks in advance Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-01-2009, 03:23 AM	#13
Karpattaisp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 367 Senior Member	A blue coated dog can only have a blue nose. It can be a butterfly or dudly nose where parts are pink but that's not the same as a red nosed dog. It's genetics, nothing to do with standards, just not possible. Just like a blue dog can't have a black nose as their pigment is diluted. Someone may pop in with the markers for coloring and a better explanation, I was terrible at genetics in science class. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-01-2009, 03:53 AM	#14
stadiaKab Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 422 Senior Member	The names "bluenose", "blacknose", "rednose" are just a physical description on the color of the nose itself...nothing else... I think some get confused when the parents were say a "bluenose" (Bb,dd) and a "rednose" (bb,Dd) and mate. You could get a "bluenose" (Bb,dd) or a "rednose" (bb,Dd) or a "liver color" (bb,dd) or a "blacknose" (Bb,Dd)... B=Black b=brown D=Full Expression of pigment d=diluted expression of pigment (letters in CAPS are dominant genes) Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-01-2009, 04:22 AM	#15
Friend_Joe Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 505 Senior Member	Is it possible to have a blue pitbull pup which has a red nose? You CAN have a blue dog who has such pale pigment that the nose appears pinkish, and some mistake this for the red of a "red-nose" dog. It is not a fault in UKC and ADBA conformation standards. Carla Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-01-2009, 06:06 AM	#16
Chooriwrocaxz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 559 Senior Member	http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x.../lifepuppy.jpg closest to blue rednose you'll see i am sure, and majority of the time the nose gains color pigment as the pup grows. At least with my white dog as a pup his nose was mostly red/splotch and as he matured it turned solid black Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-02-2009, 10:23 AM	#17
Clolmemaexata Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 410 Senior Member	Ok i get it...thanks for the help people.... bahamutt99 thanks for the site...it will be helpful. Here is something else i can use your help with. As you all probably know by now, Greece is way back in anything concerning the APBT, i guess people here don't register their dog's much and even less people really know much about the breed in general. We have no show's what so ever, very rarely do we have any meetings...so this is where i need some help.... How would i go about starting something like a pitbull show ring? maybe if i manage to start it and some people do come......it may help change things. I know it is a tough question but your help would be much appreciated. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-02-2009, 10:51 AM	#18
Indessasp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 458 Senior Member	someone asked me if my pit mix was a blue or red nose, mind you, these were like 10 year old boys. i said to them , BLACK NOSE! HAHA! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-02-2009, 12:27 PM	#19
Andrew1978 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 565 Senior Member	What is WITH the sudden flood of that colour dog, and no one knows what to call it? If you google image "blue fawn" THAT is what you get the majority of.. people are thinking it IS a form of blue, when it's on the chocolate/brown scale (as opposed to the black, which dilutes into blue). It's a pretty colour though! Oh, and in answer to the OP's question.. the pup is displaying a dudley nose, and pigment usually fills in as the pup gets older. (even though it's already been said!) Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-02-2009, 06:34 PM	#20
Goodwin Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 398 Senior Member	Lol, and I own the "rainbow" of APBT lol. I got a black, black and white, erd and chocolate And their noses collaborate Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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