[Alexunda]

As salaam alaikum wa rahmatullah,

What exactly did Umar (radhiyallahu 'anhu) say regarding soldiers spending a maximum of 4 months away from their wives.

Can someone please provide the neccessary narrations and an explanation regarding it's fiqh and application.

May Allah reward you all, Ameen.

[Alexunda]

anyone?

[Queuerriptota]

quoting Mufti Ibn Adam Al Kawtharee from his Fiqh of Marriage course. Haram to stay away longer than that from one's wife.

[VottCetaVeivE]

As salaam alaikum wa rahmatullah,

What exactly did Umar (radhiyallahu 'anhu) say regarding soldiers spending a maximum of 4 months away from their wives.

Hadrat Abu Bakr, Umar, Usman, Ali (ra) 4 Vol. Set
by Professor Masud-ul-Hasan

In the wars that were conducted during the rule of Umar, the soldiers on the front remained absent for considerable periods. Umar introduced the reform that leave should be granted to every soldier after he had served on the front for four months. A story is recorded as to how this reform was brought about.

It is related that one night Umar went on his round in Madina as usual. It was the dead of night, and every where was quiet. From one of the houses in the street, Umar heard a lady lamenting. She said:

"The night is wearisome and keeps me sleepless;

For I have none to keep me company.

I fear Allah, Who keeps watch over our souls,

And would not take another companion,

But who could tell Umar,

That he should not be so cruel,

As to keep my husband away from me,

For such a long period."

Umar knocked at the door, and when the lady came to the door he said:

"I have heard, what you wanted to be conveyed to Umar.

How long has your husband been away."

The lady said, "About a year."

Umar said, "Rest assured your husband would come back to you shortly."

Umar consulted Hafsa as to the maximum period for which a man might remain separate from his wife. She suggested a period of four months. Umar accordingly issued orders to the effect that unless a man of the armed forces could take his wife with him, he should be allowed a spell of leave after every four months of active service on the front.

[Vapepreab]

Any figh ruling regarding the suspension of nikkah due to absence for a long period?

[putza]

The tableeghi brothers say that the buzurgs have specified 4 months based on the ruling of Hazrat Umar , but what about going away fro one year then, isnt that way more than the maximum period of 4 months...just want an explanation if there is, not here to argue...

[erepsysoulpfbs]

The tableeghi brothers say that the buzurgs have specified 4 months based on the ruling of Hazrat Umar , but what about going away fro one year then, isnt that way more than the maximum period of 4 months...just want an explanation if there is, not here to argue...

I was with an alim in jamath once. He told me, married ulema who are going 1 yr, will be allowed to visit home on permission from akabireen. He himself has been home for 10 days in between his 1 yr khurooj.

[Enjoymmsq]

The tableeghi brothers say that the buzurgs have specified 4 months based on the ruling of Hazrat Umar , but what about going away fro one year then, isnt that way more than the maximum period of 4 months...just want an explanation if there is, not here to argue...

That is due to the famous incident mentioned in books.

Some ulema came to Rasoolullah (SAWW), asked permission for one year, that they will go to their people and teach them Deen in one year.

[putza]

JazakAllah brother Hiso and Maulana Abu bilal

[Alexunda]

As salaam alikum,

Nobody has still answered the question, recommended or obligatory?

[JulieSmithdccd]

Of course not obligatory.

[Alexunda]

Of course not obligatory.

As salaam alaikum,

But according to one brother, Mufti Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawathari said that it is Haraam to stay away from one's wife for longer than 4 months.

If something is Haraam, then desisting from such becomes an obligation. Right?

[DzjwMKo5]

As salaam alaikum,

But according to one brother, Mufti Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawathari said that it is Haraam to stay away from one's wife for longer than 4 months.

If something is Haraam, then desisting from such becomes an obligation. Right?

You should get clarity of what Mufti sahib said first before coming to conclusions.

Maybe ulamaa can confirm but if my weak memory serves me right, to go out for that period or longer is conditional to the wife's consent because of her physical rights in nikah.

[JulieSmithdccd]

As salaam alaikum,

But according to one brother, Mufti Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawathari said that it is Haraam to stay away from one's wife for longer than 4 months.

If something is Haraam, then desisting from such becomes an obligation. Right?

Check the context in which the Mufti sahab said it or provide its link.

Anyways according to this,then Haj would have been Haraam in earlier days as they use to go by ship. They used to leave in the month of shaban n return in safar.So it was more than 4 months.Its just 60-70 years old talk.
Rewind back few centuries when people used to go on foot, it took them years. So now

What say You?

[DzjwMKo5]

A closer example would be thousands of muslim men throughout the world now who are away from their wives for more than 6 months or a year who work in foreign countries for money beyond their necessity.

What would be the hukm on that?

[soprofaxelbis]

As salaam alaikum,

But according to one brother, Mufti Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawathari said that it is Haraam to stay away from one's wife for longer than 4 months.

If something is Haraam, then desisting from such becomes an obligation. Right?

All praises are due to Allah. Peace and blessign upon the Prophet.

Wa alaikum salam
Brother, that is not correct.
In fiqh, Haram is as follows: to engage in is punished, and to abstain from/desist in is rewarded.

To avoid a haram act is rewarded.

"Haram" linguistically indicates obligation of avoidance and prohibition.

"Fardh" linguistically means obligation to perform.

In fiqh, Fardh means: to engage is rewarded, to abstain from is punished.


"Fardh" and "haram" are two different commissioning commands. They are not combined or united.



The issue of 4 months maximum pertained to military operations for mujahideen of the khalifah.
The circumstances applied to them in particular.

The issue is NOT to be apart from your wife for fourth months regularly. Being with one's spouse daily is normal relations.
Exceptions occur due to affairs, such as travel, family problems, business obligations.

But fuqaha have addressed the issue in terms of being apart for too long.
and Allah knows best.