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SpecialOFFER 01-18-2007 08:45 AM

Doomsday clock moves forward by two minutes
 
I have a problem with this part of the article: “The scientists who mind the Doomsday Clock moved it two minutes closer to midnight on Wednesday -- symbolizing the annihilation of civilization and adding the perils of global warming for the first time.”

I really don’t think scientists like this (Sandal wearing ten speed riding Nam era global warming alarmists.) are skilled in such areas as wisdoms and levelheaded political knowledge to foresee things in the real world.
There political views are to restricted.

(OT: Now there’s a job. The news is showing a lineman working on high power lines in the mountains from a helicopter. I bet that beats a cubical…)

jenilopaz 01-18-2007 10:13 AM

Or because they weren't getting that much media coverage of late, and added a politically-correct catch phrase to get some limelight back.

Yeah, I am pretty cynical.

Matt

viagraman 01-18-2007 11:06 AM

Greetings and Felicitations,

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I really don’t think scientists like this (Sandal wearing ten speed riding Nam era global warming alarmists.) are skilled in such areas as wisdoms and levelheaded political knowledge to foresee things in the real world.
There political views are to restricted.
First, let me say that I don't see Stephan Hawking doing very much ten-speed riding or wearing sandals very often.

Second, the politicization of scientific data has become a disturbing trend amongst officials. Ignore the physical and scientific possibilities by making sure that it doesn't upset anyone's politics or conflict with official doctrine. It doesn't take a political mastermind to understand that the spread of even more atomic weapons threatens the survival of the human species. The same thing can be said for global warming. What I find troubling is your, and many other people's, insistence that scientist temper their findings to make sure they fit into acceptable political attitudes.

Sincerely Yours,
C.David Neely

PypeMaypetasy 01-18-2007 11:54 AM

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Or because they weren't getting that much media coverage of late, and added a politically-correct catch phrase to get some limelight back.

Yeah, I am pretty cynical.

Matt
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don Pardo tell him what he's won..............

EzequielTMann 01-18-2007 12:11 PM

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Nuclear bombs/proliferation and global warming/the human attitude towards it are two major concerns according to the article.
Yeah, I buy it. I don't think anyone doubts nuclear proliferation, and there's such a mountain of evidence for global warming that people who deny it's happening are doing so either for political reasons or for head-in-the-sand reasons. Nuclear, and the world changes dramatically and suddenly; global warming, and the world changes dramatically and not-so-suddenly. Either way, the planet is changed, and not for the better.

Yes, adding "global warming" to the Doomsday Clock gets them more press coverage. But that doesn't mean it isn't completely legitimate to add something to the clock that over time could have similar results for the planet that a nuclear war could have.

Just a couple of weeks ago it was reported - Ancient ice shelf breaks free from Canadian Arctic - that "A giant ice shelf the size of 11,000 football fields has snapped free from Canada's Arctic, scientists said."

Warwick Vincent of Laval University, who studies Arctic conditions, traveled to the newly formed ice island and could not believe what he saw.

"This is a dramatic and disturbing event. It shows that we are losing remarkable features of the Canadian North that have been in place for many thousands of years. We are crossing climate thresholds, and these may signal the onset of accelerated change ahead," Vincent said Thursday.

inve.tment 01-18-2007 12:15 PM

They should have had the clock on "survivor" or "24" - then people would pay attention to it.

panholio 01-18-2007 12:58 PM

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Perhaps the reason they just added the 'perils of global warming' part is because global warming is now getting so serious that something needs to be done pronto ...
There is absolutely no evidence that humans have anything to with global warming. I watched a show on the science channel the other night that basically said the sun is getting hotter which is the primary reason the earths temp is increasing. Again anyone who says humans are causing this natural phenomina is doing so for purely political purposes.

Varus

tickerinet 01-18-2007 04:07 PM

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First, let me say that I don't see Stephan Hawking doing very much ten-speed riding or wearing sandals very often.
Yeah, but with the bling on his chair, he's absolutely bitchin in the half-pipe!

Matt

mralabama 01-18-2007 04:12 PM

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There is absolutely no evidence that humans have anything to with global warming. I watched a show on the science channel the other night that basically said the sun is getting hotter which is the primary reason the earths temp is increasing. Again anyone who says humans are causing this natural phenomina is doing so for purely political purposes.

Varus
Or maybe because they beleive it is true.
(Not YOU of course, YOU know better)http://www.uspoliticsonline.net/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

Thigmaswams 01-18-2007 04:23 PM

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Perhaps the reason they just added the 'perils of global warming' part is because global warming is now getting so serious that something needs to be done pronto ...
While I agree that global warming exists, I am not convinced that humans are the cause and notion that it is getting "so serious that something needs to be done" is unsubstantiated speculation and akin to crying wolf, in my opinion.

Aside from that, the Dooms Day Clock is just symbolic, nothing more. It's been close many times in the past.

annouhMus 01-18-2007 04:23 PM

[QUOTE=Rahul;894237]Different theories abound, but it does seem to be true that humans are causing global warming.


QUOTE] (OR at least are giving it a helping hand.)

Eromereorybig 01-18-2007 04:24 PM

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Yeah, but with the bling on his chair, he's absolutely bitchin in the half-pipe!

Matt
For some reason, this is more irritating than funny....

Eromereorybig 01-18-2007 04:25 PM

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While I agree that global warming exists, I am not convinced that humans are the cause and notion that it is getting "so serious that something needs to be done" is unsubstantiated speculation and akin to crying wolf, in my opinion.

Aside from that, the Dooms Day Clock is just symbolic, nothing more. It's been close many times in the past.
The fact is, humans make air pollution. Air pollutions holds heat into the atmosphere. Heat makes the earth hot. Thems the facts.

sicheAscems 01-18-2007 04:31 PM

Hell, the "doomsday clock" was nothing but a meaningless publicity play with zero actual value when it was founded back in 1947. What's so different now? Why should we, or anyone, care?


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