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**accelieda** · 09-02-2007, 02:15 PM

If you define murder as killing without any natural need to do so (defense, food gathering) then you don´t need to look at the human species, as many other species, aside vfrom humans many other apes are known to do this for example (Pan troglodytes would be one speciesknown for such a behavior).

If you define it more narrowly to the killing of humans then of course, it could only be applied to Homo spec. and therefore could only be applied to a timeframe of 1.7 million years (which is roughly the timeframe when Homo habilis appeared as first specimen of the Homo family) or even to the timeframe of 200,000 years when homo sapiens appeared or more narrowly, as lazarus defined it, with the appearance of human culture around 40,000 years ago.

09-02-2007, 02:15 PM	#2
accelieda Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 390 Senior Member	If you define murder as killing without any natural need to do so (defense, food gathering) then you don´t need to look at the human species, as many other species, aside vfrom humans many other apes are known to do this for example (Pan troglodytes would be one speciesknown for such a behavior). If you define it more narrowly to the killing of humans then of course, it could only be applied to Homo spec. and therefore could only be applied to a timeframe of 1.7 million years (which is roughly the timeframe when Homo habilis appeared as first specimen of the Homo family) or even to the timeframe of 200,000 years when homo sapiens appeared or more narrowly, as lazarus defined it, with the appearance of human culture around 40,000 years ago.
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