[EsAllCams]

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This March 2010 cover image from "Vanity Fair" was put together to show off the latest up and coming female stars of hollywood, aside for the apparent fact to be such a star you have to be emaciated, they all appear to be white. Cries of racism were imminently slammed on this magazine (to be fair though they probably were just portraying Hollywood selection, so it may just be Hollywood is racist).

But some pointed out that two of the actresses technically qualify as actresses of color. Both of these actresses are of mix breed and clearly on American standard "pass" for white. This begets the question is racism about actually genealogy or about what you can pass for?


I introduce exhibit B:



Aaah yes the iconic crying Indian, disheartened by the white man pollution of his sacred land, of course the man playing this oooh so famous scene is Espera Oscar de Corti, and italian! So then he white? . Well not according to the Hollywood Native American community who honored him in 1995.

Certainly many white "racialists" have pointed out how Obama is only "half-black" in a ignorant attempt to placate their own disgust for blacks in general and/or to put down liberals. It doesn't matter, Obama looks "black", "negro".

So again the question is, is racism distributed based on who a person technically is or on who they appear to be?

[Ccddfergt]

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This March 2010 cover image from "Vanity Fair" was put together to show off the latest up and coming female stars of hollywood, aside for the apparent fact to be such a star you have to be emaciated, they all appear to be white. Cries of racism were imminently slammed on this magazine (to be fair though they probably were just portraying Hollywood selection, so it may just be Hollywood is racist).

But some pointed out that two of the actresses technically qualify as actresses of color. Both of these actresses are of mix breed and clearly on American standard "pass" for white. This begets the question is racism about actually genealogy or about what you can pass for?


I introduce exhibit B:



Aaah yes the iconic crying Indian, disheartened by the white man pollution of his sacred land, of course the man playing this oooh so famous scene is Espera Oscar de Corti, and italian! So then he white? . Well not according to the Hollywood Native American community who honored him in 1995.

Certainly many white "racialists" have pointed out how Obama is only "half-black" in a ignorant attempt to placate their own disgust for blacks in general and/or to put down liberals. It doesn't matter, Obama looks "black", "negro".

So again the question is, is racism distributed based on who a person technically is or on who they appear to be?

Nowadays humans dont give each other the benefit of the doubt, we plung right in and make assumptions based on appearance alone, our insecurities may not allow us to think logically, so yes i agree racism is distributed based on who a person may appear to be .Even once you get to know someone, the initial paranoia doesnt really disappear, humans always have their guard up. The roots of this might be due to the fear the media constantly feeds us.

[halyshitzob]

So again the question is, is racism distributed based on who a person technically is or on who they appear to be?

There are various forms of racism. But the most primitive and basic racism (and perhaps most common form of racism), as far as I'm concerned, is racism of the superficial kind. You could summarise it by saying the more beautiful you are (or perceived as such by others), the less likely you will be exposed to discrimination or exclusion from a certain group.

Then there's a more intellectual and less superficial variety of racism that may or may not involve individual and/or group appearance, but is more focused on genes, group behaviour and resource competition, as well as group competition.

By the way, I would also say racism is sort of related to narcissism.

[sonsayx]

Racism is about belief in innate differences, and one being superior to the other. Wether visible or not. If not one droppism would not be possible. But obviously visual clues make racism a lot easier.

[lidya-sggf]

My racism isn't based on the superficial features but about your cultural/religious status.

[plantBanceper]

My racism isn't based on the superficial features but about your cultural/religious status.

Then it would be ethnocentrism, not racism

[FsQGF1Mp]

Then it would be ethnocentrism, not racism

Why ethnocentrism? Or it's plain old racism and non-loving human behaviour?

If I would be a ethnocentrist I would say fuck eveyone not european.

[mdUzAMbG]

Why ethnocentrism? Or it's plain old racism and non-loving human behaviour?

If I would be a ethnocentrist I would say fuck eveyone not european.

Nope. Ethnocentrism is based on cultural, religious, ethnic values and identity. Not the look or ancestry.

If your bias is for all non Europeans, I would ask if all Europeans of other origins but that have been full adopted into European culture are accepted by you.

[berdyanskdotsu]

Dude? Are you dumb? Why haven't I got anything against Armenians? Georgians? Assyrians? Or other christian groups? I like Ethiopian culture too. Every culture that has some kind of christian roots aren't viewed as alien by me.

[VrQsgM7c]

Dude? Are you dumb? Why haven't I got anything against Armenians? Georgians? Assyrians? Or other christian groups? I like Ethiopian culture too. Every culture that has some kind of christian roots aren't viewed as alien by me.

Mr. Moron. You were the one that stated, I quote: "If I would be a ethnocentrist I would say fuck eveyone not european." I just built from those parameters.

Ethnocentrism doesn't have to do with regionalism. It can be a cultural or religious trait. So long as they have a certain cultural, style of living that creates common bonds.

You can call it pan ethnic.

An ethnic group is a group of people whose members identify with each other, through a common heritage that is real or assumed- sharing cultural characteristics. This shared heritage may be based upon putative common ancestry, history, kinship, religion, language, shared territory, nationality or physical appearance.

Ethnocentrism can be based on racial beliefs, but ethnocentrism doesn't have to be based on racial beliefs, and could be cultural, religious, whatever.

[Heopretg2006]

So my ethnocentrism isn't about ethnicities according to you?

[Gvadelunar]

So my ethnocentrism isn't about ethnicities according to you?

Wrong. I stated that your prejudice was ehtnocentrism. I didn't qualify it further. Religious groups can be ethnic groups.

[WordofViagra]

Prejudice? I don't have any prejudice about islam I only have my personal experiences with it. How can I have prejudices about something that's clearly bad?

[AbeldeldepBug]

Racism in various forms is learned. It is related to the economy and power in general, that's why racism comes in various forms. The Africans saw the Europeans as evil spirits, but after contact they saw they were human. This is an exception because these features were new to the population.

Certain posters' missions on every thread is to imply that a certain race was so much more beautiful than the rest that they had to become racist. Most of the worst things humans have done to each other are within the so called races. A Roman would have treated a 'barbaric' Germanic tribe worse than it would a Nubian because the German's couldn't do anything for them in the financial department.

Everything has to do with personal gain. Everything.

[Gastonleruanich]

Prejudice? I don't have any prejudice about islam I only have my personal experiences with it. How can I have prejudices about something that's clearly bad?

Again, that is still prejudice. You don't know all forms of practice of Islam. Some have evolved different than others. Much like Christianity. Your microcosm of experiences has biased you against the group as a whole.

[Adeniinteme]

Again, that is still prejudice. You don't know all forms of practice of Islam. Some have evolved different than others. Much like Christianity. Your microcosm of experiences has biased you against the group as a whole Well then show me one group that won't kill christians, harass them, burn their churches etc. Please do so

[Boripiomi]

Well then show me one group that won't kill christians, harass them, burn their churches etc. Please do so

Plenty of Mosques in the US full of people who don't do that.

[maxfreemann]

In a sense racism can be based on apperance as like mentioned above on the first post. The media likes to play up the idea of people been beautiful or fair. Next they would say something like ugly or dark which is more like the obvious.

[dWSOj26H]

Plenty of Mosques in the US full of people who don't do that.

Are you retarded? I talked about muslims in muslim countries respecting christian minorities. I don't give a shit about some weak-minded convertitets nor do I give a shit about immigrant muslims who have to obey the law of the host country.

[yxn2dC07]

Racism is about aspect, and only aspect. Xenophobia and ethnic discrimination are other phenomena. Also, most people gives a damn about genetics, behavoir or whatever. What matter is looks.