[WeissVine]

Sarrazen discussion in Germany:
http://translate.google.com/translat...2522%26hl%3Den

professor Andre Reis , chairman of the German society for human genetics :

> no genetical difference in IQ
> there is no Turkish or Jewish gene
> all ethnic groups have same intelligence

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> is there an IQ for the German or Turkish people ?
> Reis : that is a made up nonsense
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apparantly this is a political issue
controverse also at wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence
and I remember the Watson story some years ago

[BoomBully]

> no genetical difference in IQ

Yes, there is. Im sure mental diseases that affect IQ are caused by a genentical factor.

> there is no Turkish or Jewish gene

judaism is a religion, Sammy Davis jr was afroamerican and juwish by conversion. Turks, well im not sure what is a turk, some of the are Anatolian, some of them are Kurd, some of them are Greeks.

> all ethnic groups have same intelligence

Potentially, maybe. In practice, no

[itsmycock]

you can take the average of a nation or ethnicity

it could be difficult to exclude confounders like education,
but should be possible


OK, I found this with googling for "iq by country"

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/...q-country.html

Germany 102
Turkey 90

[regfortruegoo]

Sarrazin first read some remarks by Jared Taylor-that's where the IQ controversy came up, the second comment (about the Jewish gene) looks like it's a misunderstanding of the recent research about Jewish origins which Dienekes posted on his blog (I'm thinking that he is a reader of Dienekes when he isn't busy screwing up economies) so all in all, Sarrazin doesn't properly understand race or genetics, just like most others.

[SaraKonradtt]

I found also this:

http://www.eutimes.net/2009/11/iq-by-country/
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...by_Country.png

Country/Region IQ

East Asia ~105
N,W,central Europe ~100
USA 98
Israel 95
East Europe ~92
Turkey 90
Mexico ~88
Brazil 87
NE Asia 87
Cuba 85
Afghanistan 83
Iran 84 84
Saudi Arabia 83
India 81
Egypt 83
Kenya 72
South Africa 72
Ethiopia 63
Equatorial Guinea 59


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we have the haplogroups from 1000genomes or hapgen, and
presumably we could easily test their average IQ.

Now make the estimate out of Africa genome (where is it ?)
, measure the genetical distance and the correlation coefficient
with IQ (has it been done ?)

[mikapoq]

Equatorial Guinea 59

that CANT be right, youre saying the average IQ for the area is retarded. lol

[Taunteefrurge]

Equatorial Guinea 59

that CANT be right, youre saying the average IQ for the area is retarded. lol

I wouldn't doubt it.

[opelayday]

How they measured IQ of North Korea?

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...by_Country.png this map shows a direct connection between level of education of the country and IQ. But it can also be closed circle - they can not provide a decent education, because they have weak IQ ... or IQ are weak because they bad in education.

[Nidsstese]

now, which company determines "intelligence markers" ?

maybe a Japanese or Chinese company since it's politically
problematic in USA,Germany