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**lierro** · 12-15-2005, 11:16 PM

About a month ago, I thought it was practically a given that Shaun Alexander would walk away with this award. However, it looks more and more like the award will go to the Colts, and Peyton Manning for the third straight time. Who do you think is most deserving?

**violalmina** · 12-15-2005, 11:17 PM

Samkon Gado

**snislarne** · 12-15-2005, 11:21 PM

matt millen. On a serious note, I'd have to say Peyton.

**b3JOkwXL** · 12-15-2005, 11:44 PM

1. Peyton Manning
2. Shaun Alexander

This may change on Christmas Eve. Man, I can't wait to be one of the many Seahawk fans causing havoc for Peyton Manning and the Colts. I hope this game doesnt turn into a 2nd string vs 2nd string game. So, I hope the Seahawks do not clinch HFA this weekend. I want to clinch it with a win at home vs the Colts!

**scoundtrack** · 12-16-2005, 12:03 AM

1 Alexander
2 LT
3 Manning

**CFstantony** · 12-16-2005, 04:56 PM

Carson Palmer or Alexander.

I don't think either team would be near as good without them. Indy would still be fairly good without Peyton.

**Lorionasodi** · 12-16-2005, 05:00 PM

Brad Johnson.

**immewaycypef** · 12-16-2005, 05:00 PM

Carson Palmer or Alexander.

I don't think either team would be near as good without them. Indy would still be fairly good without Peyton.

Seriously? He runs their entire offense moreso than any QB in the league.

What about Edge?

**vintsqyuid** · 12-16-2005, 05:03 PM

Seriously? He runs their entire offense moreso than any QB in the league.

What about Edge?

I think the fact that you have 2 potential MVP candidates on one teams lessens the chances that either could be considered 'most valuable'.

**Spalax** · 12-16-2005, 05:05 PM

Kyle Orton

**Jifyicyfuhpop** · 12-16-2005, 05:06 PM

Looking at the stats Peyton and Carson are almost identical, I would give it to Carson. He has weapons but I think Peyton has better weapons. Alexander would also be a good choice, he is tearing it up.

**xADMlNx** · 12-16-2005, 05:06 PM

Steve Smith?

**gerturiotf** · 12-16-2005, 05:09 PM

Looking at the stats Peyton and Carson are almost identical, I would give it to Carson. He has weapons but I think Peyton has better weapons. Alexander would also be a good choice, he is tearing it up.

Carson has lost games.

I would think a team that is beating everyone should have the NFL MVP on it somewhere.

Either Peyton or Edge. Edge carried that offense at various times this year when the passing game wasn't getting it done.

Peyton calls the shots and gets it done like no QB does.

I don't have a problem with either of those 2 getting it. If anyone else does this year, with exception of Alexander, I'd have issues with it.

**gennickO** · 12-16-2005, 05:12 PM

Carson has lost games.

I would think a team that is beating everyone should have the NFL MVP on it somewhere.

Either Peyton or Edge. Edge carried that offense at various times this year when the passing game wasn't getting it done.

Peyton calls the shots and gets it done like no QB does.

I don't have a problem with either of those 2 getting it. If anyone else does this year, with exception of Alexander, I'd have issues with it.

I agree here anybody besides Alexander, Peyton, or Carson wins it I too would have an issue. All three of them are playing pretty damn good this year. My pick would be Palmer though, just my opinion. All three do deserve it though.

**newpiknicker** · 12-16-2005, 05:19 PM

I hate to say it, but Peyton's not as good as he was last year.

His defense is better.

So I'd lean towards a guy who has stepped up as opposed to stepping back - which means Alexander or Palmer. And since Alexander is on pace for just shy of 200 total yards, and about 28 TDs....

**OgrGlgHu** · 12-16-2005, 05:23 PM

I hate to say it, but Peyton's not as good as he was last year.

His defense is better.

So I'd lean towards a guy who has stepped up as opposed to stepping back - which means Alexander or Palmer. And since Alexander is on pace for just shy of 200 total yards, and about 28 TDs....

27 tds, 108+ rating? If you are gonna compare him to his season last year and say he has stepped back, then he will be on teh decline from here on out. Even if he has best QB season each year in the league.

And he calls the plays.

**Wezfyowk** · 12-16-2005, 05:35 PM

27 tds, 108+ rating? If you are gonna compare him to his season last year and say he has stepped back, then he will be on teh decline from here on out. Even if he has best QB season each year in the league.

And he calls the plays.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/stats/byposition?pos=QB

I could make the argument that he's not even the best QB in the league right now - despite calling the plays. He's got a top 3 defense working on his behalf as well.

And Peyton has 27 TDs. Palmer has 28 (ran for one). Alexander has 23 - the next closest RB is Tomlinson at 19 - and it's much tougher for top RBs to accumulate as many TDs as it is for top QBs.

If I had a vote, I'd give it to Alexander.

**smifatv** · 12-16-2005, 05:42 PM

When do we have to vote by?

If it is today, with the Colts being undefeated AND Peyton putting up numbers, he gets my vote.

**tefraxKedWere** · 12-16-2005, 05:43 PM

I'd give it to Alexander. He's amazing right now. However, legitimate cases can be made for Peyton and Palmer as well.

**NumDusthouh** · 12-16-2005, 08:29 PM

I'd say Alexander. He's on pace to break the TD record isn't he? Their offense has been #1 practically all year (don't know if it still is) but he's really their only stud skill position player. Palmer and Peyton are surrounded by talented skill players.

12-15-2005, 11:16 PM	#1
lierro Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 469 Senior Member	Nfl Mvp? About a month ago, I thought it was practically a given that Shaun Alexander would walk away with this award. However, it looks more and more like the award will go to the Colts, and Peyton Manning for the third straight time. Who do you think is most deserving? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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snislarne Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 460 Senior Member	matt millen. On a serious note, I'd have to say Peyton. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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b3JOkwXL Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 497 Senior Member	1. Peyton Manning 2. Shaun Alexander This may change on Christmas Eve. Man, I can't wait to be one of the many Seahawk fans causing havoc for Peyton Manning and the Colts. I hope this game doesnt turn into a 2nd string vs 2nd string game. So, I hope the Seahawks do not clinch HFA this weekend. I want to clinch it with a win at home vs the Colts! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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scoundtrack Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 469 Senior Member	1 Alexander 2 LT 3 Manning Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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CFstantony Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 352 Senior Member	Carson Palmer or Alexander. I don't think either team would be near as good without them. Indy would still be fairly good without Peyton. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Lorionasodi Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	Brad Johnson. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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immewaycypef Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 408 Senior Member	Carson Palmer or Alexander. I don't think either team would be near as good without them. Indy would still be fairly good without Peyton. Seriously? He runs their entire offense moreso than any QB in the league. What about Edge? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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vintsqyuid Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 498 Senior Member	Seriously? He runs their entire offense moreso than any QB in the league. What about Edge? I think the fact that you have 2 potential MVP candidates on one teams lessens the chances that either could be considered 'most valuable'. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Spalax Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 508 Senior Member	Kyle Orton Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Jifyicyfuhpop Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 448 Senior Member	Looking at the stats Peyton and Carson are almost identical, I would give it to Carson. He has weapons but I think Peyton has better weapons. Alexander would also be a good choice, he is tearing it up. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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xADMlNx Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 393 Senior Member	Steve Smith? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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gerturiotf Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 420 Senior Member	Looking at the stats Peyton and Carson are almost identical, I would give it to Carson. He has weapons but I think Peyton has better weapons. Alexander would also be a good choice, he is tearing it up. Carson has lost games. I would think a team that is beating everyone should have the NFL MVP on it somewhere. Either Peyton or Edge. Edge carried that offense at various times this year when the passing game wasn't getting it done. Peyton calls the shots and gets it done like no QB does. I don't have a problem with either of those 2 getting it. If anyone else does this year, with exception of Alexander, I'd have issues with it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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gennickO Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 469 Senior Member	Carson has lost games. I would think a team that is beating everyone should have the NFL MVP on it somewhere. Either Peyton or Edge. Edge carried that offense at various times this year when the passing game wasn't getting it done. Peyton calls the shots and gets it done like no QB does. I don't have a problem with either of those 2 getting it. If anyone else does this year, with exception of Alexander, I'd have issues with it. I agree here anybody besides Alexander, Peyton, or Carson wins it I too would have an issue. All three of them are playing pretty damn good this year. My pick would be Palmer though, just my opinion. All three do deserve it though. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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newpiknicker Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 460 Senior Member	I hate to say it, but Peyton's not as good as he was last year. His defense is better. So I'd lean towards a guy who has stepped up as opposed to stepping back - which means Alexander or Palmer. And since Alexander is on pace for just shy of 200 total yards, and about 28 TDs.... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-16-2005, 05:23 PM	#16
OgrGlgHu Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 544 Senior Member	I hate to say it, but Peyton's not as good as he was last year. His defense is better. So I'd lean towards a guy who has stepped up as opposed to stepping back - which means Alexander or Palmer. And since Alexander is on pace for just shy of 200 total yards, and about 28 TDs.... 27 tds, 108+ rating? If you are gonna compare him to his season last year and say he has stepped back, then he will be on teh decline from here on out. Even if he has best QB season each year in the league. And he calls the plays. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Wezfyowk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 444 Senior Member	27 tds, 108+ rating? If you are gonna compare him to his season last year and say he has stepped back, then he will be on teh decline from here on out. Even if he has best QB season each year in the league. And he calls the plays. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/stats/byposition?pos=QB I could make the argument that he's not even the best QB in the league right now - despite calling the plays. He's got a top 3 defense working on his behalf as well. And Peyton has 27 TDs. Palmer has 28 (ran for one). Alexander has 23 - the next closest RB is Tomlinson at 19 - and it's much tougher for top RBs to accumulate as many TDs as it is for top QBs. If I had a vote, I'd give it to Alexander. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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smifatv Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 356 Senior Member	When do we have to vote by? If it is today, with the Colts being undefeated AND Peyton putting up numbers, he gets my vote. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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tefraxKedWere Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 392 Senior Member	I'd give it to Alexander. He's amazing right now. However, legitimate cases can be made for Peyton and Palmer as well. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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NumDusthouh Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 382 Senior Member	I'd say Alexander. He's on pace to break the TD record isn't he? Their offense has been #1 practically all year (don't know if it still is) but he's really their only stud skill position player. Palmer and Peyton are surrounded by talented skill players. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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